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On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
>
> 0

They are only an actual bot, not a human being.

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
> >
> > 0
>
> They are only an actual bot, not a human being.
>
> --
> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
> Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

How do you know, what makes you so sure?

Also, not that you have to answer this, but why wouldn't you answer the question regarding whether or not wij is from Taiwan?

Given that you present some potentially artsy falsehoods on Usenet, which is totally fine, I would wonder how I would know when to trust your comments.

I was only upset with something you said one time though...you generally don't bother me.

-Philip

On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
>>>
>>> 0
>>
>> They are only an actual bot, not a human being.
>>
>> --
>> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
>> Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
>
>
> How do you know, what makes you so sure?
>

There is zero actual dialogue.

> Also, not that you have to answer this, but why wouldn't you answer the question regarding whether or not wij is from Taiwan?
>
> Given that you present some potentially artsy falsehoods on Usenet, which is totally fine, I would wonder how I would know when to trust your comments.
>
> I was only upset with something you said one time though...you generally don't bother me.
>
> -Philip
>

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott

Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see.
Arthur Schopenhauer

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
> > On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> >> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 0
> >>
> >> They are only an actual bot, not a human being.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
> >> Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> >
> >
> > How do you know, what makes you so sure?
> >
> There is zero actual dialogue.

That certainly doesn't guarantee that it's a bot...also a few of the posts appeared to be coherently written, although maybe they're just pasted from server.

There is nothing about the speed of reply or processing of any of the posters that shows that the bot couldn't be human. I am assuming that it is a human for now; if it is a bot it is surely operated by a human who is responsible for its bad actions.

It isn't a big deal though...I wouldn't feel ashamed of talking to a bot and don't see the argument with you as highly important, but I have a policy of responding to debate-type arguments while I'm in captivity...it isn't the worst thing I could have to do to establish the absolute truth of my claims to get my freedom from the criminals. The truth is important.

-Philip

> > Also, not that you have to answer this, but why wouldn't you answer the question regarding whether or not wij is from Taiwan?
> >
> > Given that you present some potentially artsy falsehoods on Usenet, which is totally fine, I would wonder how I would know when to trust your comments.
> >
> > I was only upset with something you said one time though...you generally don't bother me.
> >
> > -Philip
> >
> --
> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
>
> Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
> Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2/21/2022 3:58 PM, B.H. wrote:
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> They are only an actual bot, not a human being.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
>>>> Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you know, what makes you so sure?
>>>
>> There is zero actual dialogue.
>
> That certainly doesn't guarantee that it's a bot...also a few of the posts appeared to be coherently written, although maybe they're just pasted from server.
>

Yes.

> There is nothing about the speed of reply or processing of any of the posters that shows that the bot couldn't be human. I am assuming that it is a human for now; if it is a bot it is surely operated by a human who is responsible for its bad actions.
>
> It isn't a big deal though...I wouldn't feel ashamed of talking to a bot and don't see the argument with you as highly important, but I have a policy of responding to debate-type arguments while I'm in captivity...it isn't the worst thing I could have to do to establish the absolute truth of my claims to get my freedom from the criminals. The truth is important.
>
> -Philip
>
>
>
>
>
>>> Also, not that you have to answer this, but why wouldn't you answer the question regarding whether or not wij is from Taiwan?
>>>
>>> Given that you present some potentially artsy falsehoods on Usenet, which is totally fine, I would wonder how I would know when to trust your comments.
>>>
>>> I was only upset with something you said one time though...you generally don't bother me.
>>>
>>> -Philip
>>>
>> --
>> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
>>
>> Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
>> Genius hits a target no one else can see.
>> Arthur Schopenhauer

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott

Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see.
Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2/21/2022 2:19 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 3:58 PM, B.H. wrote:
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:

Shut up idiots.

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:32:11 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
> >
> > 0
>
> They are only an actual bot, not a human being.
>

I can make that work

mk5000

With the Gucci on this linen shirt
In the hood I was just living dirty
Everyday I had to share the dirty
Had no shoes we had to share a pair--
Skir Skirr

Lil Uzi Vert

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:05:57 PM UTC-6, nymbot wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 2:19 PM, olcott wrote:
> > On 2/21/2022 3:58 PM, B.H. wrote:
> >> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> >>> On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> >>>>> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
> Shut up idiots.

it might freak them out to talk about

There is still a kgb mentality about using electronics

mk5000

Science proceeds more by what it has learned to ignore than what it takes into account.

Galileo Galilei

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 7:10:50 PM UTC-5, M Kfivethousand wrote:
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:05:57 PM UTC-6, nymbot wrote:
> > On 2/21/2022 2:19 PM, olcott wrote:
> > > On 2/21/2022 3:58 PM, B.H. wrote:
> > >> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> > >>> On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
> > >>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
> > >>>>> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
> > Shut up idiots.
> it might freak them out to talk about
>
> There is still a kgb mentality about using electronics
>
> mk5000
>
> Science proceeds more by what it has learned to ignore than what it takes into account.
>

I don't agree with that. An educated person should be able to LISTEN TO and process even things that he or she does not agree with. Perhaps in Galileo's time, there was less sophisticated education available and less good information available to the average person, so less "mentally athletically" trained critical thinkers felt unable to tune out information that such thinkers didn't like.

Time is limited in life, of course, but you can learn a lot from listening to people who are wrong, sometimes. Failing to listen to clearly stated things would have been a disaster for me in the past (or now and in the future) if I had ever failed to listen.

These days, our own US government has failed at that quite miserably...how can one ever know if he or she is wrong if such a person cannot bear to listen to "bad science?" Imagine what it would mean if an ADHD expert couldn't listen to the scientifically bogus arguments of Peter Breggin, analyze them, and discuss what is wrong with them, or defend assaults against his/her own perspective.

I don't know who you are but you haven't been bothering me lately...keep up the polite tone of voice when you write, that is a good habit that makes up for you mostly not making sense in your writing, whether you have stealthy motives or not.

-Philip White

> Galileo Galilei

On 2/21/2022 6:01 PM, B.H. wrote:
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 7:10:50 PM UTC-5, M Kfivethousand wrote:
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 5:05:57 PM UTC-6, nymbot wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 2:19 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2022 3:58 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 4:28:15 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 3:07 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:32:11 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 11:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
>>> Shut up idiots.
>> it might freak them out to talk about
>>
>> There is still a kgb mentality about using electronics
>>
>> mk5000
>>
>> Science proceeds more by what it has learned to ignore than what it takes into account.
>>
>
> I don't agree with that. An educated person should be able to LISTEN TO and process even things that he or she does not agree with. Perhaps in Galileo's time, there was less sophisticated education available and less good information available to the average person, so less "mentally athletically" trained critical thinkers felt unable to tune out information that such thinkers didn't like.
>
> Time is limited in life, of course, but you can learn a lot from listening to people who are wrong, sometimes. Failing to listen to clearly stated things would have been a disaster for me in the past (or now and in the future) if I had ever failed to listen.
>
> These days, our own US government has failed at that quite miserably...how can one ever know if he or she is wrong if such a person cannot bear to listen to "bad science?" Imagine what it would mean if an ADHD expert couldn't listen to the scientifically bogus arguments of Peter Breggin, analyze them, and discuss what is wrong with them, or defend assaults against his/her own perspective.
>
> I don't know who you are but you haven't been bothering me lately...keep up the polite tone of voice when you write, that is a good habit that makes up for you mostly not making sense in your writing, whether you have stealthy motives or not.
>
> -Philip White
>
>
>
>> Galileo Galilei

"Why have you broken that promise?" "I have not
broken it. The supervisor said that the human
race would no longer be under surveillance. That
is a promise we have kept. I was watching your
children, not you." It was several seconds before
George understood the implications of those
words.

Confused by the text he had just read, Dick Feynmann
hurled the fragile paperback to the floor of the
rustic fallout shelter he and Albert Einstein shared.
Not bothering to turn his head, he bellowed "Hey
Albert, get me a brewski!" One room over, in the
minimal but tastefully appointed kitchen, Albert
let a single tear fall onto his oven mitt before
quietly untying his apron and letting it fall to
the floor. He silently abandoned the nucleon
stew he had been preparing for the celebration
and descended into the workshop.

Still lost in thought, he powered up his Dell
Inspiron Laptop with Windows XP, 4 GB of RAM,
and 360G drive. After a brief look at some
unread emails, he opened up Outlook Express
and began trolling Philip White again.

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On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>
> 0

Best to put them on ignore.

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott

Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see.
Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>
>> 0
>
> Best to put them on ignore.
>

If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75

Otherwise you have to do it separately for each new From: field.

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>
>>> 0
>>
>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>
>
> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75

Umm...

You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP server
and not to any specific poster, right?

Lots of different people use the aioe.org newserver. I use it as a
backup when Eternal September is down.

André

--
To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail
service.

On 2/21/22 11:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 0
>>>
>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>
>>
>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>
> Umm...
>
> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP server
> and not to any specific poster, right?
>
> Lots of different people use the aioe.org newserver. I use it as a
> backup when Eternal September is down.
>
> André
>

You might be able to use the inject-info / posting-host header data,
don't know how stable aioe.org makes that.

On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 0
>>>
>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>
>>
>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>
> Umm...
>
> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP server
> and not to any specific poster, right?
>

https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
It looks like you are correct.

> Lots of different people use the aioe.org newserver. I use it as a
> backup when Eternal September is down.
>
> André
>

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see."
Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2/21/2022 8:22 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>>
>> Umm...
>>
>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
>> server and not to any specific poster, right?
>>
>
> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
> It looks like you are correct.
>
>> Lots of different people use the aioe.org newserver. I use it as a
>> backup when Eternal September is down.
>>
>> André
>>
>

Shut up idiots.

On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>
>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>>
>> Umm...
>>
>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
>> server and not to any specific poster, right?
>>
>
> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
> It looks like you are correct.

Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am sure
of them.

But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who)
already pointed out this error to you when you were claiming the poster
in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that someone must be
from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.

André

--
To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail
service.

On 2/21/2022 10:34 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>>>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>>>
>>> Umm...
>>>
>>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
>>> server and not to any specific poster, right?
>>>
>>
>> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
>> It looks like you are correct.
>
> Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am sure
> of them.
>
> But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who)
> already pointed out this error to you when you were claiming the poster
> in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that someone must be
> from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.
>
> André
>

I always count everything that I have been told as possibly false until
independently confirmed. That is how first-principles reasoning works:

First Principles: The Building Blocks of True Knowledge
First-principles thinking is one of the best ways to reverse-engineer
complicated problems and unleash creative possibility. Sometimes called
“reasoning from first principles,” the idea is to break down complicated
problems into basic elements and then reassemble them from the ground
up. https://fs.blog/first-principles/

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2/21/22 11:38 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 10:34 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>> On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>>>>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>>>>
>>>> Umm...
>>>>
>>>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
>>>> server and not to any specific poster, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
>>> It looks like you are correct.
>>
>> Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am
>> sure of them.
>>
>> But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who)
>> already pointed out this error to you when you were claiming the
>> poster in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that someone
>> must be from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.
>>
>> André
>>
>
> I always count everything that I have been told as possibly false until
> independently confirmed. That is how first-principles reasoning works:
>
> First Principles: The Building Blocks of True Knowledge
> First-principles thinking is one of the best ways to reverse-engineer
> complicated problems and unleash creative possibility. Sometimes called
> “reasoning from first principles,” the idea is to break down complicated
> problems into basic elements and then reassemble them from the ground
> up.  https://fs.blog/first-principles/
>

Maybe you should try applying that to some of your 'theories', since
they are actually wrong.

After all, they don't follow the actual definitions of the field.

FAIL.

On 2/21/2022 10:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 2/21/22 11:38 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/21/2022 10:34 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
>>>>>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>>>>>
>>>>> Umm...
>>>>>
>>>>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
>>>>> server and not to any specific poster, right?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
>>>> It looks like you are correct.
>>>
>>> Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am
>>> sure of them.
>>>
>>> But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who)
>>> already pointed out this error to you when you were claiming the
>>> poster in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that
>>> someone must be from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.
>>>
>>> André
>>>
>>
>> I always count everything that I have been told as possibly false
>> until independently confirmed. That is how first-principles reasoning
>> works:
>>
>> First Principles: The Building Blocks of True Knowledge
>> First-principles thinking is one of the best ways to reverse-engineer
>> complicated problems and unleash creative possibility. Sometimes
>> called “reasoning from first principles,” the idea is to break down
>> complicated problems into basic elements and then reassemble them from
>> the ground up.  https://fs.blog/first-principles/
>>
>
> Maybe you should try applying that to some of your 'theories', since
> they are actually wrong.
>
> After all, they don't follow the actual definitions of the field.
>
> FAIL.

It is not that my theories are wrong it is that they do not correspond
to conventional wisdom because I have corrected the errors in the
philosophical underpinnings of this conventional wisdom. People acting
like sheep say that I am wrong because they are attached to the
conventional wisdom.

When it comes to actually showing any mistake all they have is gibberish
double talk anchored in the fact that they simply do not believe me.

--
Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit;
Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

On 2/22/22 12:03 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 10:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 2/21/22 11:38 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 10:34 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in
>>>>>>> the header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Umm...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
>>>>>> server and not to any specific poster, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
>>>>> It looks like you are correct.
>>>>
>>>> Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am
>>>> sure of them.
>>>>
>>>> But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who)
>>>> already pointed out this error to you when you were claiming the
>>>> poster in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that
>>>> someone must be from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.
>>>>
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>
>>> I always count everything that I have been told as possibly false
>>> until independently confirmed. That is how first-principles reasoning
>>> works:
>>>
>>> First Principles: The Building Blocks of True Knowledge
>>> First-principles thinking is one of the best ways to reverse-engineer
>>> complicated problems and unleash creative possibility. Sometimes
>>> called “reasoning from first principles,” the idea is to break down
>>> complicated problems into basic elements and then reassemble them
>>> from the ground up.  https://fs.blog/first-principles/
>>>
>>
>> Maybe you should try applying that to some of your 'theories', since
>> they are actually wrong.
>>
>> After all, they don't follow the actual definitions of the field.
>>
>> FAIL.
>
> It is not that my theories are wrong it is that they do not correspond
> to conventional wisdom because I have corrected the errors in the
> philosophical underpinnings of this conventional wisdom. People acting
> like sheep say that I am wrong because they are attached to the
> conventional wisdom.
>
> When it comes to actually showing any mistake all they have is gibberish
> double talk anchored in the fact that they simply do not believe me.
>

It isn't 'Conventional Wisdom', it is that they don't conform to the
RULES of the field. They just are not truths, as truths by definition,
conform to reality, and in a logical field, that includes its rules and
definitions.

The replies that you are trying to reject are NOT 'Gibberish', they are
pointing out that you are BREAKING THE RULES of the field. Logically,
you are an OUTLAW. You can not accept them, because your mind is stuck
in your fantasy where you THINK you know something that no one else
does, but that idea is just a lie.

You claims that you have somehow 'proved' something are just flat out
LIES as the definition of Truth means it obeys the reality of the
system. Perhaps the simplest one to point out is your insistance that
the behavior of the simulation of <H^> <H^> does not correspond to the
behavior of the machine H^ applied to <H^>, when by all definitions of
simulation, that is the plain meaning. If a simulation does not match
the thing it is supposed to be simulating, the simulation is inaccurate.
You even admit (or have in the past) that H^ applied to <H^> Halts,
which means the ONLY correct answer for what a simulation of <H^> <H^>
should show is that it halts. BY DEFINITION.

In many ways I pity you, as it seems you have some ideas that might be
worth discussing (in a different venue) but you have basically closed
that door because you are insainly committed you mind to a path that you
can not support. This seems to indicate that you really don't understand
what Truth actually is, and are going to suffer the consequences of that.

You have FAILED. You are going to pay for your rebellion to the truth.

On 22/02/2022 05:03, olcott wrote:
> On 2/21/2022 10:48 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 2/21/22 11:38 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/21/2022 10:34 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best to put them on ignore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the header that will get rid
>>>>>>> of them: 46.165.242.75
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Umm...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP server and not to any
>>>>>> specific poster, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
>>>>> It looks like you are correct.
>>>>
>>>> Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am sure of them.
>>>>
>>>> But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who) already pointed out this error
>>>> to you when you were claiming the poster in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that
>>>> someone must be from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.
>>>>
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>
>>> I always count everything that I have been told as possibly false until independently confirmed.
>>> That is how first-principles reasoning works:
>>>
>>> First Principles: The Building Blocks of True Knowledge
>>> First-principles thinking is one of the best ways to reverse-engineer complicated problems and
>>> unleash creative possibility. Sometimes called “reasoning from first principles,” the idea is to
>>> break down complicated problems into basic elements and then reassemble them from the ground up.
>>> https://fs.blog/first-principles/
>>>
>>
>> Maybe you should try applying that to some of your 'theories', since they are actually wrong.
>>
>> After all, they don't follow the actual definitions of the field.
>>
>> FAIL.
>
> It is not that my theories are wrong it is that they do not correspond to conventional wisdom

No, it's that they are simply wrong. And wrong in very dumb (uninteresting) ways...

I know you /think/ they are right, but bear in mind you are a thoroughly deluded individual! In
your delusions you are an unrecognised genius, whereas in reality you are just a Deluded Dumbo, with
some mental issues when it comes to abstract reasoning. That stops you from understanding even the
basic definitions in the fields you choose to talk about, and you certainly can't recognise or
respond to the logical reasoning presented to you by people pointing out your mistakes.

>
> because I have corrected the errors in the philosophical underpinnings of this conventional wisdom.

LOL. (You have spouted nonsense for 20(?) years, under the delusion that you are seeing more than
other people, when in fact you can't follow even the basics of the topics.)

> People acting like sheep say that I am wrong because they are attached to the conventional wisdom.

LOL. Does it puzzle you that other people understand all sorts of reasoned arguments where you
can't even understand the basic definitions behind them? And yet in your delusions it's YOU who are
the genius with a superior mental intellect! Geniuses understand the basic definitions of the
field, and see beyond them!

You need some way of explaining this to yourself to maintain your delusions - that's why you
denigrate the normal mental abilities you lack as "rote learning" or "conventional wisdom".

>
> When it comes to actually showing any mistake all they have is gibberish double talk anchored in the
> fact that they simply do not believe me.

I'm sure it really does seem that way to you. That is your delusional framework deceiving you, but
I guess you will never see that.

Mike.

On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:34:26 PM UTC-5, André G. Isaak wrote:
> On 2022-02-21 21:22, olcott wrote:
> > On 2/21/2022 10:01 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:
> >> On 2022-02-21 20:36, olcott wrote:
> >>> On 2/21/2022 9:20 PM, olcott wrote:
> >>>> On 2/21/2022 9:19 PM, B.H. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 0
> >>>>
> >>>> Best to put them on ignore.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If you can set your newsreader to delete messages with this in the
> >>> header that will get rid of them: 46.165.242.75
> >>
> >> Umm...
> >>
> >> You do realize that that IP address belongs to the aioe.org NNTP
> >> server and not to any specific poster, right?
> >>
> >
> > https://ipinfo.io/46.165.242.75
> > It looks like you are correct.
> Of course I'm correct. Unlike you, I don't post claims unless I am sure
> of them.
>
> But there is some irony here since someone (I can't remember who)
> already pointed out this error to you when you were claiming the poster
> in question was from Germany. That's like assuming that someone must be
> from Mountain View CA since they use gmail.
> André
>
> --
> To email remove 'invalid' & replace 'gm' with well known Google mail
> service.

I hadn't realized that the poster wasn't definitely really from Germany...at the same time, the BND, like the US government, has surely not objected strenuously to being represented by this poster.

-Philip