In article <mddsfez97rk.fsf_-_@panix5.panix.com>,
Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> wrote:
>cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>> In article <tsu14t$g5l7$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>> And then there is the vendor independence. With Linux you
>>> were not tied to SUN/IBM/HP/DEC. Some companies liked that.
>
>> "Sun" not "SUN"
>
>The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1 processor
>board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford University Network".

True, but.... The name of the company was Sun Microsystems.
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Rich Alderson wrote:
> The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1
> processor board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford
> University Network".

Perhaps you would know, was the board in Sun Microsystems' first product
identical to the Stanford SUN workstation board? Information online is
often confused between the Stanford SUN and the Sun Microsystems Sun-1,
so it's hard to say and I keep wondering if in fact they were mostly the
same.

Another point of nomenclature: I have seen Stanford documents referring
to the SUN workstation software as "SUNOS", which is uncomfortably close
to "SunOS"...

On 2/20/2023 7:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>> In article <tsu14t$g5l7$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>
>>> And then there is the vendor independence. With Linux you
>>> were not tied to SUN/IBM/HP/DEC. Some companies liked that.
>
>> "Sun" not "SUN"
>
> The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1 processor
> board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford University Network".

My use of "SUN" instead of "Sun" was just a mistake though.

:-)

Arne

Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> writes:

> Rich Alderson wrote:
>> The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1
>> processor board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford
>> University Network".

> Perhaps you would know, was the board in Sun Microsystems' first product
> identical to the Stanford SUN workstation board? Information online is
> often confused between the Stanford SUN and the Sun Microsystems Sun-1,
> so it's hard to say and I keep wondering if in fact they were mostly the
> same.

They were identical. In fact, the SUN board was used in routers and terminal
interface processors (TIPs) on the Stanford network; these were later built
with SUN-1 boards from Sun Microsystems.

cisco Systems was an early consumer of processor boards from Sun, until the
CSC-2 and CSC-3 boards were developed in-house.

> Another point of nomenclature: I have seen Stanford documents referring
> to the SUN workstation software as "SUNOS", which is uncomfortably close
> to "SunOS"...

I think it's comfortable...

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On 2023-02-21, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 2/20/2023 7:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
>> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>>> In article <tsu14t$g5l7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>> And then there is the vendor independence. With Linux you
>>>> were not tied to SUN/IBM/HP/DEC. Some companies liked that.
>>
>>> "Sun" not "SUN"
>>
>> The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1 processor
>> board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford University Network".
>
> My use of "SUN" instead of "Sun" was just a mistake though.
>
>:-)
>

People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
never called ADA.

I also noticed the French document just posted also randomly switches
between ADA and Ada, which looks _really_ sloppy.

Simon.

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On 2/22/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-02-21, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 2/20/2023 7:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
>>> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>>>> In article <tsu14t$g5l7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And then there is the vendor independence. With Linux you
>>>>> were not tied to SUN/IBM/HP/DEC. Some companies liked that.
>>>
>>>> "Sun" not "SUN"
>>>
>>> The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1 processor
>>> board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford University Network".
>>
>> My use of "SUN" instead of "Sun" was just a mistake though.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>
> People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
> never called ADA.

I am also guilty of occasionally to have called Rdb for RDB.

:-)

Arne

On 2/22/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-02-21, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 2/20/2023 7:33 PM, Rich Alderson wrote:
>>> cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>>>> In article <tsu14t$g5l7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And then there is the vendor independence. With Linux you
>>>>> were not tied to SUN/IBM/HP/DEC. Some companies liked that.
>>>
>>>> "Sun" not "SUN"
>>>
>>> The first product from Sun Microsystems was built around the SUN-1 processor
>>> board, in which "SUN" was an acronym for "Stanford University Network".
>>
>> My use of "SUN" instead of "Sun" was just a mistake though.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>
> People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
> never called ADA.

I truly detest case sensitivity ....

A computer knows the difference, but, humans not so much.

> I also noticed the French document just posted also randomly switches
> between ADA and Ada, which looks _really_ sloppy.
>
> Simon.
>

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On 2023-02-22, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> On 2/22/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>
>> People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
>> never called ADA.
>
> I truly detest case sensitivity ....
>

Case sensitivity is not involved. Ada is the name of a person, and as
such, the normal conventions apply when writing it.

Simon.

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On 2/23/2023 8:10 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-02-22, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>> On 2/22/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>
>>> People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
>>> never called ADA.
>>
>> I truly detest case sensitivity ....
>>
>
> Case sensitivity is not involved. Ada is the name of a person, and as
> such, the normal conventions apply when writing it.
>
> Simon.
>

Simon is conventional, however, people recognize simon, SIMON, sIMON, simoN, and
such. With case sensitivity, to a computer, Simon is not the same as SIMON.

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On 2/23/2023 12:01 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 2/23/2023 8:10 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2023-02-22, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
>>>> never called ADA.
>>>
>>> I truly detest case sensitivity ....
>>
>> Case sensitivity is not involved. Ada is the name of a person, and as
>> such, the normal conventions apply when writing it.
>
> Simon is conventional, however, people recognize simon, SIMON, sIMON,
> simoN, and such.  With case sensitivity, to a computer, Simon is not the
> same as SIMON.

But they are not equal - I would say:

Standard : Simon
Special cases : simon and SIMON
Never : all other

That said then I am not a big fan of case sensitivity
for neither programming language syntax or filenames.

But they are certainly in fashion today.

Arne

On 2023-02-23, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> On 2/23/2023 8:10 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2023-02-22, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> People also write ADA instead of Ada, and unlike, say, Fortran, it was
>>>> never called ADA.
>>>
>>> I truly detest case sensitivity ....
>>>
>>
>> Case sensitivity is not involved. Ada is the name of a person, and as
>> such, the normal conventions apply when writing it.
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> Simon is conventional,

First time I've ever been described in that way. :-)

Simon.

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