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* Re: Fix the Most Annoying iOS 17 FeaturesWally J
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          `* Re: Fix the Most Annoying iOS 17 FeaturesAlan
           `* Re: Fix the Most Annoying iOS 17 Featuresnospam
            `- Re: Fix the Most Annoying iOS 17 FeaturesAlan

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 by: Alan Browne - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 21:43 UTC

On 2023-09-21 16:21, nospam wrote:
> In article <xX0PM.12282$C_lf.1731@fx33.iad>, Alan Browne
> <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> the original statement was about *apple* keeping 32 bit compatibility:
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter
>>>
>>> it does, since that's what was being discussed.
>>
>> You're the one who brought up 32b on 64b ARM machines.
>
> nope, that was someone else, who claimed that apple could have
> continued to support 32 bit apps, just like windows did. they could
> not.

This is what you wrote (quoting for the nth time):

nospam wrote (2023-09-20 20:27 (GMT-4:00).
[ no they couldn't. the arm 32bit and 64bit instruction sets are ]
===

See where it says "arm". YOU wrote that.

>> As they say in court, "You opened that door ..."
>
> as they say in court, objection overruled.

Returned to the lower court.

>
>>>> - that is not what I was replying to. You made an
>>>> assertion that 32b code could not run on a 64b system. It can. Not a
>>>> great idea where ARM is concerned - but it can be done.
>>>
>>> 32 bit code can run *only* if there's 32 bit instructions on the chip.
>>
>> And again, what I was replying to was your assertion that you can't run
>> 32b code on a 64b ARM.
>
> that assertion is correct.
>
> the only way 32 bit code can run is if there's 32 bit support on the
> chip itself.

Which (again) you're changing the context.

>>> as i said several times, the a11 *removed* 32 bit, making it
>>> *impossible*, and now android is following with 64-bit only hardware.

Where you're referring to Apple Silicon.

In the quoted instance you were referring to arm. Again quoted above.

>>
>> Irrelevant to your statement about ARM processors. I'll repeat it so
>> you can snip it again:
>>
>> nospam wrote:
>> [no they couldn't. the arm 32bit and 64bit instruction sets are]
>> ===
>
> you left out the rest of it, that they are different. that statement is
> correct.

Sure. And so is the statement that you can run both on the same 64b
processor - as long as they are in different processes.

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