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by: Val - Mon, 24 Apr 2023 19:59 UTC

We have some large files (5-10G) created on the MCP that is needed for a data warehousing product and was wondering if anyone has used either MCP FTP or other 3rd Party software and can share the information and experiences.

The Unisys FTP and SAN DataMover are taking a long time for these files to be pulled or pushed from the host to the WIN Server.

PKWARE is being used on IBM Iseries and is often compared to the Unisys is there exists one, or is in the works.

Appreciate the feedback and tips. Thanks in advance
Val

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by: barry....@gmail.com - Tue, 25 Apr 2023 16:04 UTC

SAN Datamover via shared disk works well and is much faster. I developed a utility some years back to automate the whole process, so that it could be driven by a WFL job or Supervisor.

Barry.

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:59:18 PM UTC+1, Val wrote:
> We have some large files (5-10G) created on the MCP that is needed for a data warehousing product and was wondering if anyone has used either MCP FTP or other 3rd Party software and can share the information and experiences..
>
> The Unisys FTP and SAN DataMover are taking a long time for these files to be pulled or pushed from the host to the WIN Server.
>
> PKWARE is being used on IBM Iseries and is often compared to the Unisys is there exists one, or is in the works.
>
> Appreciate the feedback and tips. Thanks in advance
> Val

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by: ramseyhere - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:21 UTC

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, barry....@gmail.com wrote:
> SAN Datamover via shared disk works well and is much faster. I developed a utility some years back to automate the whole process, so that it could be driven by a WFL job or Supervisor.
>
> Barry.
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:59:18 PM UTC+1, Val wrote:
> > We have some large files (5-10G) created on the MCP that is needed for a data warehousing product and was wondering if anyone has used either MCP FTP or other 3rd Party software and can share the information and experiences.
> >
> > The Unisys FTP and SAN DataMover are taking a long time for these files to be pulled or pushed from the host to the WIN Server.
> >
> > PKWARE is being used on IBM Iseries and is often compared to the Unisys is there exists one, or is in the works.
> >
> > Appreciate the feedback and tips. Thanks in advance
> > Val
I am confused about the reference to PKWARE. In looking at their product offerings, I don't see anything that "moves" data. Only secures it.

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Subject: Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN
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by: Val - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 20:04 UTC

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:21:27 AM UTC-4, ramseyhere wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 12:04:59 PM UTC-4, barry....@gmail.com wrote:
> > SAN Datamover via shared disk works well and is much faster. I developed a utility some years back to automate the whole process, so that it could be driven by a WFL job or Supervisor.
> >
> > Barry.
> > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:59:18 PM UTC+1, Val wrote:
> > > We have some large files (5-10G) created on the MCP that is needed for a data warehousing product and was wondering if anyone has used either MCP FTP or other 3rd Party software and can share the information and experiences.
> > >
> > > The Unisys FTP and SAN DataMover are taking a long time for these files to be pulled or pushed from the host to the WIN Server.
> > >
> > > PKWARE is being used on IBM Iseries and is often compared to the Unisys is there exists one, or is in the works.
> > >
> > > Appreciate the feedback and tips. Thanks in advance
> > > Val
> I am confused about the reference to PKWARE. In looking at their product offerings, I don't see anything that "moves" data. Only secures it.

PKZIP/SecureZIP from PKWARE that runs on the iSeries host that you can compress files for FTP (.zip)

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by: Scott Lurndal - Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:57 UTC

Val <jaycee.lions@gmail.com> writes:
>On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:21:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, ramseyhere wrote=
>:
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 12:04:59=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, barry....@gmail.=
>com wrote:=20
>> > SAN Datamover via shared disk works well and is much faster. I develope=
>d a utility some years back to automate the whole process, so that it could=
> be driven by a WFL job or Supervisor.=20
>> >=20
>> > Barry.=20
>> > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:59:18=E2=80=AFPM UTC+1, Val wrote:=20
>> > > We have some large files (5-10G) created on the MCP that is needed fo=
>r a data warehousing product and was wondering if anyone has used either MC=
>P FTP or other 3rd Party software and can share the information and experie=
>nces.=20
>> > >=20
>> > > The Unisys FTP and SAN DataMover are taking a long time for these fil=
>es to be pulled or pushed from the host to the WIN Server.=20
>> > >=20
>> > > PKWARE is being used on IBM Iseries and is often compared to the Unis=
>ys is there exists one, or is in the works.=20
>> > >=20
>> > > Appreciate the feedback and tips. Thanks in advance=20
>> > > Val
>> I am confused about the reference to PKWARE. In looking at their product =
>offerings, I don't see anything that "moves" data. Only secures it.
>
>PKZIP/SecureZIP from PKWARE that runs on the iSeries host that you can comp=
>ress files for FTP (.zip)

It's someone ironic if Unisys (Clearpath or Libra) don't offer
compression utilities and/or API's given that they're the
assignee of Terry Welch's 1985 LZW patent (4558302B1), for
which Unisys were roundly castigated in the 90s.

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by: Paul Kimpel - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 13:34 UTC

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN
From: scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
To:
Date: Wed Apr 26 2023 15:57:00 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

> Val <jaycee.lions@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:21:27=E2=80=AFAM UTC-4, ramseyhere wrote=
>> :
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 12:04:59=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, barry....@gmail.=
>> com wrote:=20
>>>> SAN Datamover via shared disk works well and is much faster. I develope=
>> d a utility some years back to automate the whole process, so that it could=
>> be driven by a WFL job or Supervisor.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> Barry.=20
>>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:59:18=E2=80=AFPM UTC+1, Val wrote:=20
>>>>> We have some large files (5-10G) created on the MCP that is needed fo=
>> r a data warehousing product and was wondering if anyone has used either MC=
>> P FTP or other 3rd Party software and can share the information and experie=
>> nces.=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> The Unisys FTP and SAN DataMover are taking a long time for these fil=
>> es to be pulled or pushed from the host to the WIN Server.=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> PKWARE is being used on IBM Iseries and is often compared to the Unis=
>> ys is there exists one, or is in the works.=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> Appreciate the feedback and tips. Thanks in advance=20
>>>>> Val
>>> I am confused about the reference to PKWARE. In looking at their product =
>> offerings, I don't see anything that "moves" data. Only secures it.
>>
>> PKZIP/SecureZIP from PKWARE that runs on the iSeries host that you can comp=
>> ress files for FTP (.zip)
>
>
> It's someone ironic if Unisys (Clearpath or Libra) don't offer
> compression utilities and/or API's given that they're the
> assignee of Terry Welch's 1985 LZW patent (4558302B1), for
> which Unisys were roundly castigated in the 90s.

Yes, but remember that (a) LZW was originally developed by Sperry for
disk compression on its 1100/2200 systems long before the
Sperry/Burroughs merger, and (b) the primary compression algorithm used
by Katz's PKZIP is Deflate, not LZW.

Deflate is actually supported by MCP systems through the DEFLATE_DATA
and INFLATE_DATA procedures in the WEBAPPSUPPORT library.

Paul

Subject	Author
FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN	Val
Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN	barry....@gmail.com
Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN	ramseyhere
Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN	Val
Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN	Scott Lurndal
Re: FTP Large Files from the MCP host to WIN	Paul Kimpel