On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
> > Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool & ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can make images of?
> >
> > Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets you halfway though the windows installation.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be helpful.
> >
> > Thanks !!
> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for archival.
>
> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
Lorenzo/Luis,

I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on ChipChat's website.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,
-Lionel

On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool & ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can make images of?
>>>
>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks !!
>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for archival.
>>
>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
> Lorenzo/Luis,
>
> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on ChipChat's website.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> -Lionel

Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
CCSOUND2.EXE:
https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
the internetz.

A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
Maybe they still have the files?

Might be worth asking if everything else fails...

Lorenzo, I DIMMly remember helping you (IIRC) create a complete 2nd
floppy for the ChipChat. Help my fading memory...

lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool & ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can make images of?
>>>
>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks !!
>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for archival.
>>
>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
> Lorenzo/Luis,
>
> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on ChipChat's website.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> -Lionel
>

About as useless as a Hurst shifter on a moped...

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>> make images of?
>>>>
>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !!
>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>> archival.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>
>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>> ChipChat's website.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>    -Lionel
>
> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> CCSOUND2.EXE:
> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>
> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> the internetz.
>
> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> Maybe they still have the files?
>
> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>

Foundt CC1.zip, nothing yet for CC2.zip tried looking for cc2.zip, no
holy joy. Possumbly have disk 1 and 2 upstairs. Disk 2 was not complete,
IIRC.

Lorenzo!

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.chipchat.com:80/mca/SoundCard/cc1.zip

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
> ChipChat's website.

So, it turns out there was a game from EA (?), "Cl*se C*mbat". Also a
podcast called "Chipch*t", also a column in a computer mag with the same
name.

Again, our tech overlords protect us from the past.

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>> make images of?
>>>>
>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !!
>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>> archival.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>
>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>> ChipChat's website.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>    -Lionel
>
> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> CCSOUND2.EXE:
> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>
> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> the internetz.
>
> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> Maybe they still have the files?
>
> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>

Reading through CC1.zip, and all OS drivers (except AIX) are there. DOS,
Win3.1/95/3.5/4.0, OS/2 3&4. Reading the install stuff only mentions
"DISK-1", perhaps cc2 / DISK-2 is samples?

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>> make images of?
>>>>
>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !!
>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>> archival.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>
>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>> ChipChat's website.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>    -Lionel
>
> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> CCSOUND2.EXE:
> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>
> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> the internetz.
>
> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> Maybe they still have the files?
>
> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>

II - INSTALLATION OF THE APPLICATIONS
Step A - Add Windows Applications (mixer, talking clock, etc.)
PUT CHIPCHAT DISK-2 INTO YOUR FLOPPY DRIVE

Louis Ohland wrote:
> Reading through CC1.zip, and all OS drivers (except AIX) are there. DOS,
> Win3.1/95/3.5/4.0, OS/2 3&4. Reading the install stuff only mentions
> "DISK-1", perhaps cc2 / DISK-2 is samples?
>
> Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>>> make images of?
>>>>>
>>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !!
>>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>>> archival.
>>>>
>>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>>
>>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>>> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>>> ChipChat's website.
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>    -Lionel
>>
>> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
>> CCSOUND2.EXE:
>> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>>
>> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
>> the internetz.
>>
>> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
>> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
>> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
>> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
>> Maybe they still have the files?
>>
>> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>>

To use IRQ-5, you need to make the following modifications:
a. Change @5150.adf file replacing "int 7" with "int 5"
(you must re-configure your system after updating the ADF)
b. DOS AUTOEXEC.BAT, change DOSMIXER statement from "-7" to "-5"
c. Win31 SYSTEM.INI, change [auddrive.drv] from "int=7" to "int=5"
d. OS2 CONFIG.SYS, change device=ES1688DD.SYS from "/I:7" to "/I:5"
e. Win95, use device manager to change interrupt from 7 to 5
f. WinNT, re-install and select interrupt 5

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>> make images of?
>>>>
>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !!
>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>> archival.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>
>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>> ChipChat's website.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>    -Lionel
>
> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> CCSOUND2.EXE:
> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>
> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> the internetz.
>
> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> Maybe they still have the files?
>
> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>

On 20.11.2022 15:13, Louis Ohland wrote:
>  To use IRQ-5, you need to make the following modifications:
>    a. Change @5150.adf file replacing "int 7" with "int 5"
>         (you must re-configure your system after updating the ADF)
>   b. DOS AUTOEXEC.BAT, change DOSMIXER statement from "-7" to "-5"
>   c. Win31 SYSTEM.INI, change [auddrive.drv] from "int=7" to "int=5"
>   d. OS2 CONFIG.SYS, change device=ES1688DD.SYS from "/I:7" to "/I:5"
>   e. Win95, use device manager to change interrupt from 7 to 5
>   f. WinNT, re-install and select interrupt 5

https://www.ardent-tool.com/sound/ChipChat.html#ADF_Hack

Tom, I can't remember everything I published.

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 15:13, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>   To use IRQ-5, you need to make the following modifications:
>>     a. Change @5150.adf file replacing "int 7" with "int 5"
>>          (you must re-configure your system after updating the ADF)
>>    b. DOS AUTOEXEC.BAT, change DOSMIXER statement from "-7" to "-5"
>>    c. Win31 SYSTEM.INI, change [auddrive.drv] from "int=7" to "int=5"
>>    d. OS2 CONFIG.SYS, change device=ES1688DD.SYS from "/I:7" to "/I:5"
>>    e. Win95, use device manager to change interrupt from 7 to 5
>>    f. WinNT, re-install and select interrupt 5
>
> https://www.ardent-tool.com/sound/ChipChat.html#ADF_Hack

ESS had a collection of apps they bunled with the ES1688. I saw mention
of "Band in a Box" by pgmusic, and ESS' own "AudioRack".

Louis Ohland wrote:
> Tom, I can't remember everything I published.
>
> Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> On 20.11.2022 15:13, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>   To use IRQ-5, you need to make the following modifications:
>>>     a. Change @5150.adf file replacing "int 7" with "int 5"
>>>          (you must re-configure your system after updating the ADF)
>>>    b. DOS AUTOEXEC.BAT, change DOSMIXER statement from "-7" to "-5"
>>>    c. Win31 SYSTEM.INI, change [auddrive.drv] from "int=7" to "int=5"
>>>    d. OS2 CONFIG.SYS, change device=ES1688DD.SYS from "/I:7" to "/I:5"
>>>    e. Win95, use device manager to change interrupt from 7 to 5
>>>    f. WinNT, re-install and select interrupt 5
>>
>> https://www.ardent-tool.com/sound/ChipChat.html#ADF_Hack

https://www.pgmusic.com/
Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.

Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>> make images of?
>>>>
>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !!
>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>> archival.
>>>
>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>
>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>> still have it?  It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>> ChipChat's website.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>    -Lionel
>
> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> CCSOUND2.EXE:
> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>
> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> the internetz.
>
> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> Maybe they still have the files?
>
> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:53:32 AM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://www.pgmusic.com/
> Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.
> Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> > On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
> >>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
> >>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
> >>>> make images of?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
> >>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks !!
> >>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
> >>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
> >>> archival.
> >>>
> >>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
> >> Lorenzo/Luis,
> >>
> >> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
> >> still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
> >> ChipChat's website.
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated!
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Lionel
> >
> > Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> > CCSOUND2.EXE:
> > https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
> >
> > There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> > the internetz.
> >
> > A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> > http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> > with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> > http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> > Maybe they still have the files?
> >
> > Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
> >
Wow just woke up! I'll keep looking, but I've crawled wayback machine on the chipchat site and didn't get lucky. I will scour the internet for CCSOUND1.EXE and CCSOUND2.EXE. I also pinged Lorenzo on facebook.

Install fails without the second disk. It asks for Disk2, which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll and then fails.

which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:09:05 AM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:53:32 AM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
> > https://www.pgmusic.com/
> > Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.
> > Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> > > On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
> > >>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
> > >>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
> > >>>> make images of?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
> > >>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks !!
> > >>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
> > >>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
> > >>> archival.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
> > >> Lorenzo/Luis,
> > >>
> > >> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
> > >> still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
> > >> ChipChat's website.
> > >>
> > >> Any help would be appreciated!
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> -Lionel
> > >
> > > Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> > > CCSOUND2.EXE:
> > > https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
> > >
> > > There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> > > the internetz.
> > >
> > > A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> > > http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> > > with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> > > http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> > > Maybe they still have the files?
> > >
> > > Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
> > >
> Wow just woke up! I'll keep looking, but I've crawled wayback machine on the chipchat site and didn't get lucky. I will scour the internet for CCSOUND1.EXE and CCSOUND2.EXE. I also pinged Lorenzo on facebook.
>
> Install fails without the second disk. It asks for Disk2, which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll and then fails.
>
> which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll

Messed up that last cut and paste, meant to have a link to a screenshot instead of repeating a sentence, lol. This is where setup dies, https://imgur.com/a/pHWWXjK

On 20.11.2022 17:13, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:09:05 AM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:53:32 AM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> https://www.pgmusic.com/
>>> Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.
>>> Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>>>> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
>>>>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
>>>>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
>>>>>>> make images of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
>>>>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks !!
>>>>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
>>>>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
>>>>>> archival.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
>>>>> Lorenzo/Luis,
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
>>>>> still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
>>>>> ChipChat's website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help would be appreciated!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -Lionel
>>>>
>>>> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
>>>> CCSOUND2.EXE:
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
>>>>
>>>> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
>>>> the internetz.
>>>>
>>>> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
>>>> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
>>>> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
>>>> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
>>>> Maybe they still have the files?
>>>>
>>>> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
>>>>
>> Wow just woke up! I'll keep looking, but I've crawled wayback machine on the chipchat site and didn't get lucky. I will scour the internet for CCSOUND1.EXE and CCSOUND2.EXE. I also pinged Lorenzo on facebook.
>>
>> Install fails without the second disk. It asks for Disk2, which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll and then fails.
>>
>> which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll
>
> Messed up that last cut and paste, meant to have a link to a screenshot instead of repeating a sentence, lol. This is where setup dies, https://imgur.com/a/pHWWXjK

CTL3D.DLL is a standard Windows library for 3D UI elements.

We could probably rebuild the second disk from a scratch, should all
other efforts fail. But it would be nice to have the "real deal"...

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:30:07 AM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 17:13, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:09:05 AM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:53:32 AM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
> >>> https://www.pgmusic.com/
> >>> Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.
> >>> Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> >>>> On 20.11.2022 9:35, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 6:38:25 PM UTC-4, lorenzo....@gmail.com
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 5:22:02 PM UTC-4, Lorenzo Mollicone wrote:
> >>>>>>> Aside from the cc1.zip that's available on the Ardent Tool &
> >>>>>>> ChipChat website, does anyone have the original disks that they can
> >>>>>>> make images of?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would seem there's a second disk in the pack, and cc1.zip only gets
> >>>>>>> you halfway though the windows installation.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks !!
> >>>>>> Nevermind -- I was able to rebuild the second disk from other
> >>>>>> available sound card archives. ZIP file has been sent to Louis for
> >>>>>> archival.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hope everyone had a nice holiday !!
> >>>>> Lorenzo/Luis,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I recently acquired a ChipChat and need this 2nd disk image, do you
> >>>>> still have it? It never made it to Ardent-Tool and it's not on
> >>>>> ChipChat's website.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any help would be appreciated!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> -Lionel
> >>>>
> >>>> Looks like the self-extracting disk files were called CCSOUND1.EXE &
> >>>> CCSOUND2.EXE:
> >>>> https://web.archive.org/web/19970103121340/http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChat/USA/ChpChtSB_SupportFiles.html
> >>>>
> >>>> There were on a customer-only FTP though. No sign of them anywhere on
> >>>> the internetz.
> >>>>
> >>>> A stripped down version of the official ChipChat website is still up:
> >>>> http://www.chipchat.com/index.html
> >>>> with some of the pages modified earlier this year:
> >>>> http://www.chipchat.com/ChipChatDirect.html
> >>>> Maybe they still have the files?
> >>>>
> >>>> Might be worth asking if everything else fails...
> >>>>
> >> Wow just woke up! I'll keep looking, but I've crawled wayback machine on the chipchat site and didn't get lucky. I will scour the internet for CCSOUND1.EXE and CCSOUND2.EXE. I also pinged Lorenzo on facebook.
> >>
> >> Install fails without the second disk. It asks for Disk2, which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll and then fails.
> >>
> >> which you can fudge your way past by making a disk.2 file on the floppy... and after that you see that setup needs CTL3D.dll
> >
> > Messed up that last cut and paste, meant to have a link to a screenshot instead of repeating a sentence, lol. This is where setup dies, https://imgur.com/a/pHWWXjK
> CTL3D.DLL is a standard Windows library for 3D UI elements.
>
> We could probably rebuild the second disk from a scratch, should all
> other efforts fail. But it would be nice to have the "real deal"...

Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?

On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?

Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There was a
pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either DEFLATE or
just LZ77 iirc.

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There was a
> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either DEFLATE or
> just LZ77 iirc.

yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........

Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you back in 2019?

On 20.11.2022 18:33, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
>> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There was a
>> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either DEFLATE or
>> just LZ77 iirc.
>
> yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........
>
> Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you back in 2019?

auddrive.ini probably...

Files from a generic ESS1688 driver package might work. Like here:
https://oemdrivers.com/sound-ess1688

Ideally we would want to use the same version ChipChat shipped with the
card.

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 18:33, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
> >> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There was a
> >> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either DEFLATE or
> >> just LZ77 iirc.
> >
> > yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........
> >
> > Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you back in 2019?
> auddrive.ini probably...
>
> Files from a generic ESS1688 driver package might work. Like here:
> https://oemdrivers.com/sound-ess1688
>
> Ideally we would want to use the same version ChipChat shipped with the
> card.
So I've been chugging along finding various files from different ESS1688 packages. Looks like A:\winapps\tcalc.exe is one I hit a wall with.

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On 20.11.2022 18:33, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
> > >> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There was a
> > >> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either DEFLATE or
> > >> just LZ77 iirc.
> > >
> > > yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........
> > >
> > > Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you back in 2019?
> > auddrive.ini probably...
> >
> > Files from a generic ESS1688 driver package might work. Like here:
> > https://oemdrivers.com/sound-ess1688
> >
> > Ideally we would want to use the same version ChipChat shipped with the
> > card.
> So I've been chugging along finding various files from different ESS1688 packages. Looks like A:\winapps\tcalc.exe is one I hit a wall with.

Actually, finding files I need in the sound piper drivers

On 20.11.2022 19:41, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 20.11.2022 18:33, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
>>>>> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There was a
>>>>> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either DEFLATE or
>>>>> just LZ77 iirc.
>>>>
>>>> yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........
>>>>
>>>> Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you back in 2019?
>>> auddrive.ini probably...
>>>
>>> Files from a generic ESS1688 driver package might work. Like here:
>>> https://oemdrivers.com/sound-ess1688
>>>
>>> Ideally we would want to use the same version ChipChat shipped with the
>>> card.
>> So I've been chugging along finding various files from different ESS1688 packages. Looks like A:\winapps\tcalc.exe is one I hit a wall with.
>
>
> Actually, finding files I need in the sound piper drivers

Ah right, we should have checked that package first probably... :)

On 20.11.2022 19:48, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 19:41, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 20.11.2022 18:33, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5,
>>>>> slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to
>>>>>>> compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks
>>>>>>> like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
>>>>>> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There
>>>>>> was a
>>>>>> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either
>>>>>> DEFLATE or
>>>>>> just LZ77 iirc.
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is
>>>>> A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........
>>>>>
>>>>> Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you
>>>>> back in 2019?
>>>> auddrive.ini probably...
>>>>
>>>> Files from a generic ESS1688 driver package might work. Like here:
>>>> https://oemdrivers.com/sound-ess1688
>>>>
>>>> Ideally we would want to use the same version ChipChat shipped with the
>>>> card.
>>> So I've been chugging along finding various files from different
>>> ESS1688 packages. Looks like A:\winapps\tcalc.exe is one I hit a wall
>>> with.
>>
>>
>> Actually, finding files I need in the sound piper drivers
>
> Ah right, we should have checked that package first probably... :)

Tcalc.exe - Talking Calculator

Totally not a gimmick... Why is all that stuff mandatory to install?

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:50:26 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 20.11.2022 19:48, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> > On 20.11.2022 19:41, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 1:32:51 PM UTC-5, lharr...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:46:28 PM UTC-5, slavo...@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On 20.11.2022 18:33, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 12:25:04 PM UTC-5,
> >>>>> slavo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On 20.11.2022 18:12, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yeah I was thinking of doing that, but I am not sure how to
> >>>>>>> compress the files to the format the installer expects. It looks
> >>>>>>> like its the classic expand... I assume I can use deflate?
> >>>>>> Yeah, it's probably the usual expand-compatible compression. There
> >>>>>> was a
> >>>>>> pair of utilities - compress.exe and expand.exe. It's either
> >>>>>> DEFLATE or
> >>>>>> just LZ77 iirc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> yeah i just did that with compress.exe So the next file needed is
> >>>>> A:\winapdll\auddrive.in_ not sure where to grab that........
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Louis, would Lorenzo have emailed it to you or something to you
> >>>>> back in 2019?
> >>>> auddrive.ini probably...
> >>>>
> >>>> Files from a generic ESS1688 driver package might work. Like here:
> >>>> https://oemdrivers.com/sound-ess1688
> >>>>
> >>>> Ideally we would want to use the same version ChipChat shipped with the
> >>>> card.
> >>> So I've been chugging along finding various files from different
> >>> ESS1688 packages. Looks like A:\winapps\tcalc.exe is one I hit a wall
> >>> with.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, finding files I need in the sound piper drivers
> >
> > Ah right, we should have checked that package first probably... :)
> Tcalc.exe - Talking Calculator
>
> Totally not a gimmick... Why is all that stuff mandatory to install?

The best part is the shitty installer has no retry option when it can't find a file..... I have re-run the installer probably 60+ times now... rebuilding this disk... for likely just Windows 3.1....