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From: arn...@vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
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by: Arne Vajhøj - Fri, 5 May 2023 19:22 UTC

I have not seen it posted here, but native Pascal compiler for
VMS x86-64 is in test field test now.

4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).

Arne

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by: Arne Vajhøj - Fri, 5 May 2023 19:24 UTC

On 5/5/2023 3:22 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> I have not seen it posted here, but native Pascal compiler for
> VMS x86-64 is in test field test now.
>
> 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).

Get those 2 (Cobol and Basic).

Get Java and Python.

Get Rdb.

And then most ISV's/customers could put their migration
projects full speed ahead.

Arne

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by: Single Stage to Orbi - Fri, 5 May 2023 22:01 UTC

On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 15:22 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).

Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received my
invitation to the VSI forums!
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by: John Reagan - Mon, 8 May 2023 16:40 UTC

On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 6:03:01 PM UTC-4, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 15:22 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).
> Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received my
> invitation to the VSI forums!
> --
> Tactical Nuclear Kittens
By the way, the release notes in the kit aren't quite complete. I was rushing to get it out the door.

I'm planning on revising the kit (and the other native compilers) soon.

John

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by: John H Reinhardt - Mon, 8 May 2023 17:53 UTC

On 5/8/2023 11:40 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 6:03:01 PM UTC-4, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
>> On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 15:22 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).
>> Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received my
>> invitation to the VSI forums!
>> --
>> Tactical Nuclear Kittens
> By the way, the release notes in the kit aren't quite complete. I was rushing to get it out the door.
>
> I'm planning on revising the kit (and the other native compilers) soon.
>
> John

I just got the email from VSI with the formal release notice. It was available in the SP site a few days early.

John H. Reinhardt
(another, not so prolific John R.)

VSI Pascal X6.3-137 for OpenVMS x86

VMS Software Inc. is pleased to announce that a test release of the Pascal compiler for OpenVMS x86 is now available. This is the first publicly accessible release of the compiler, and we will appreciate your feedback since this is a field test. Use the built-in issue report form on the SP if you are a commercial customer; community members may report bugs on our forum.

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by: Single Stage to Orbi - Mon, 8 May 2023 23:31 UTC

On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 09:40 -0700, John Reagan wrote:
> > Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received
> > my invitation to the VSI forums!

> By the way, the release notes in the kit aren't quite complete. I
> was rushing to get it out the door.
>
> I'm planning on revising the kit (and the other native compilers)
> soon.

I've extracted my old development files and wil be putting the
compilers through their paces to see if they will still work under
x86_64. Might be a few days. They last worked on OpenVMS 6.2 on VAX, 32
years ago.
--
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by: Robert A. Brooks - Mon, 8 May 2023 23:41 UTC

On 5/8/2023 7:31 PM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> I've extracted my old development files and wil be putting the
> compilers through their paces to see if they will still work under
> x86_64. Might be a few days. They last worked on OpenVMS 6.2 on VAX, 32
> years ago.

32 years ago, the current VAX/VMS version was V5.4-2

--- Rob

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by: Single Stage to Orbi - Tue, 9 May 2023 07:34 UTC

On Mon, 2023-05-08 at 19:41 -0400, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
> > I've extracted my old development files and wil be putting the
> > compilers through their paces to see if they will still work under
> > x86_64. Might be a few days. They last worked on OpenVMS 6.2 on
> > VAX, 32 years ago.
>
> 32 years ago, the current VAX/VMS version was V5.4-2

Could've sworn it was 6.2 but the dates for 5.4 fits 1991. Oh well,
thanks.
--
Tactical Nuclear Kittens

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by: Jonathan - Wed, 10 May 2023 20:38 UTC

On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:40:54 PM UTC-4, John Reagan wrote:
> On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 6:03:01 PM UTC-4, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> > On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 15:22 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > > 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).
> > Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received my
> > invitation to the VSI forums!
> > --
> > Tactical Nuclear Kittens
> By the way, the release notes in the kit aren't quite complete. I was rushing to get it out the door.
>
> I'm planning on revising the kit (and the other native compilers) soon.
>
> John
Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if this isn't available.. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic compiler.)

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by: Arne Vajhøj - Wed, 10 May 2023 20:46 UTC

On 5/10/2023 4:38 PM, Jonathan wrote:
> Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the Basic
> compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if this
> isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic compiler.)

Itanium?

It seems to work (at least the qualifier is accepted) on Alpha:

$ bas/ver
VSI BASIC V1.8-005 on OpenVMS V8.4-2L2
$ bas/nosep native_test
$

Arne

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by: John Reagan - Thu, 11 May 2023 15:41 UTC

On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:40:54 PM UTC-4, John Reagan wrote:
> > On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 6:03:01 PM UTC-4, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 15:22 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > > > 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).
> > > Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received my
> > > invitation to the VSI forums!
> > > --
> > > Tactical Nuclear Kittens
> > By the way, the release notes in the kit aren't quite complete. I was rushing to get it out the door.
> >
> > I'm planning on revising the kit (and the other native compilers) soon.
> >
> > John
> Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if this isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic compiler.)

/NOSEPERATE is the default. Do you mean /SEPARATE? Yes, I have a bug report that it stopped working on the latest BASIC on Itanium.

For x86, it is even more of a pain to get a single compilation to generate multiple ELF modules all inside a single .OBJ file. (That is what you get with BASIC's and Fortran's /SEPARATE. Both compilers default to /NOSEPARATE; you can also do it in BLISS just by having another MODULE/ELUDOM on the same source file).

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by: Arne Vajhøj - Fri, 12 May 2023 00:25 UTC

On 5/11/2023 11:41 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
>> Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the
>> Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if
>> this isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic
>> compiler.)
>
> /NOSEPERATE is the default. Do you mean /SEPARATE? Yes, I have a
> bug report that it stopped working on the latest BASIC on Itanium.

I cannot recreate with a trivial example. There must be something
extra needed.

Basic 1.8 on Alpha:

$ type ex.bas
program ex

external sub s1

call s1

end program
! sub s1

external sub s2

call s2

end sub
! sub s2

print "Hi from Basic!"

end sub
$ bas ex
$ lin ex
$ run ex
Hi from Basic!
$ libr/obj/crea ex
$ libr/obj/ins ex ex
$ libr/obj/list/name ex
Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023
20:14:08
Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 128
Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1

Module ex
EX
S1
S2

$ bas/sep ex
$ lin ex
$ run ex
Hi from Basic!
$ libr/obj/crea ex
$ libr/obj/ins ex ex
$ libr/obj/list/name ex
Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023
20:14:08
Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 128
Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1

Module EX
EX

Module S1
S1

Module S2
S2

Basic 1.8 on Itanium:

$ type ex.bas
program ex

external sub s1

call s1

end program
! sub s1

external sub s2

call s2

end sub
! sub s2

print "Hi from Basic!"

end sub
$ bas ex
$ lin ex
$ run ex
Hi from Basic!
$ libr/obj/crea ex
$ libr/obj/ins ex ex
$ libr/obj/list/name ex
Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 1024
Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1

Module ex
EX
S1
S2

$ bas/sep ex
$ lin ex
$ run ex
Hi from Basic!
$ libr/obj/crea ex
$ libr/obj/ins ex ex
$ libr/obj/list/name ex
Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 1024
Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1

Module EX
EX

Module S1
S1

Module S2
S2

Arne

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by: Jonathan - Fri, 12 May 2023 18:48 UTC

On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 8:25:22 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 5/11/2023 11:41 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> >> Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the
> >> Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if
> >> this isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic
> >> compiler.)
> >
> > /NOSEPERATE is the default. Do you mean /SEPARATE? Yes, I have a
> > bug report that it stopped working on the latest BASIC on Itanium.
> I cannot recreate with a trivial example. There must be something
> extra needed.
>
> Basic 1.8 on Alpha:
>
> $ type ex.bas
> program ex
>
> external sub s1
>
> call s1
>
> end program
> !
> sub s1
>
> external sub s2
>
> call s2
>
> end sub
> !
> sub s2
>
> print "Hi from Basic!"
>
> end sub
> $ bas ex
> $ lin ex
> $ run ex
> Hi from Basic!
> $ libr/obj/crea ex
> $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023
> 20:14:08
> Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
> Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
> Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 128
> Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
>
> Module ex
> EX
> S1
> S2
>
> $ bas/sep ex
> $ lin ex
> $ run ex
> Hi from Basic!
> $ libr/obj/crea ex
> $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023
> 20:14:08
> Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
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> Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 128
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>
> Module EX
> EX
>
> Module S1
> S1
>
> Module S2
> S2
>
> Basic 1.8 on Itanium:
>
> $ type ex.bas
> program ex
>
> external sub s1
>
> call s1
>
> end program
> !
> sub s1
>
> external sub s2
>
> call s2
>
> end sub
> !
> sub s2
>
> print "Hi from Basic!"
>
> end sub
> $ bas ex
> $ lin ex
> $ run ex
> Hi from Basic!
> $ libr/obj/crea ex
> $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
> Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
> Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
> Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 1024
> Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
>
> Module ex
> EX
> S1
> S2
>
> $ bas/sep ex
> $ lin ex
> $ run ex
> Hi from Basic!
> $ libr/obj/crea ex
> $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
> Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
> Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
> Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 1024
> Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
>
> Module EX
> EX
>
> Module S1
> S1
>
> Module S2
> S2
>
> Arne
It is, weirdly, triggered by the specific length of the source file path after logical evaluation. I have a reproducer, if you're interested.

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by: Jonathan - Fri, 12 May 2023 19:01 UTC

On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:41:12 AM UTC-4, John Reagan wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> > On Monday, May 8, 2023 at 12:40:54 PM UTC-4, John Reagan wrote:
> > > On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 6:03:01 PM UTC-4, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2023-05-05 at 15:22 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > > > > 4 down (C, C++, Fortran Pascal). 2 to go (Cobol, Basic).
> > > > Wunderbar! And to add the icing on the cake too, I finally received my
> > > > invitation to the VSI forums!
> > > > --
> > > > Tactical Nuclear Kittens
> > > By the way, the release notes in the kit aren't quite complete. I was rushing to get it out the door.
> > >
> > > I'm planning on revising the kit (and the other native compilers) soon.
> > >
> > > John
> > Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if this isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic compiler.)
> /NOSEPERATE is the default. Do you mean /SEPARATE? Yes, I have a bug report that it stopped working on the latest BASIC on Itanium.
>
> For x86, it is even more of a pain to get a single compilation to generate multiple ELF modules all inside a single .OBJ file. (That is what you get with BASIC's and Fortran's /SEPARATE. Both compilers default to /NOSEPARATE; you can also do it in BLISS just by having another MODULE/ELUDOM on the same source file).
Sorry, yes I meant /SEPARATE. (We hard-wired /SEPARATE into our build system decades ago when we migrated from Basic-Plus2; not using it caused problems and we punted. I can't remember if it was the default in BP2. I suspect it was.)
We've got 25,000 lines of .com files to build over 1,000,000 lines of code, so there's some work to redoing this, mostly involving updating link library lists. A working /SEPARATE means no work :). We would also end up linking against shared memory that isn't accessed, which seems ugly.

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Subject: Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now
From: xyzzy1...@gmail.com (John Reagan)
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by: John Reagan - Fri, 12 May 2023 21:20 UTC

On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:48:42 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 8:25:22 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > On 5/11/2023 11:41 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> > >> Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the
> > >> Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if
> > >> this isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic
> > >> compiler.)
> > >
> > > /NOSEPERATE is the default. Do you mean /SEPARATE? Yes, I have a
> > > bug report that it stopped working on the latest BASIC on Itanium.
> > I cannot recreate with a trivial example. There must be something
> > extra needed.
> >
> > Basic 1.8 on Alpha:
> >
> > $ type ex.bas
> > program ex
> >
> > external sub s1
> >
> > call s1
> >
> > end program
> > !
> > sub s1
> >
> > external sub s2
> >
> > call s2
> >
> > end sub
> > !
> > sub s2
> >
> > print "Hi from Basic!"
> >
> > end sub
> > $ bas ex
> > $ lin ex
> > $ run ex
> > Hi from Basic!
> > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023
> > 20:14:08
> > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
> > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
> > Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 128
> > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> >
> > Module ex
> > EX
> > S1
> > S2
> >
> > $ bas/sep ex
> > $ lin ex
> > $ run ex
> > Hi from Basic!
> > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023
> > 20:14:08
> > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
> > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
> > Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 128
> > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> >
> > Module EX
> > EX
> >
> > Module S1
> > S1
> >
> > Module S2
> > S2
> >
> > Basic 1.8 on Itanium:
> >
> > $ type ex.bas
> > program ex
> >
> > external sub s1
> >
> > call s1
> >
> > end program
> > !
> > sub s1
> >
> > external sub s2
> >
> > call s2
> >
> > end sub
> > !
> > sub s2
> >
> > print "Hi from Basic!"
> >
> > end sub
> > $ bas ex
> > $ lin ex
> > $ run ex
> > Hi from Basic!
> > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
> > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
> > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
> > Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 1024
> > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> >
> > Module ex
> > EX
> > S1
> > S2
> >
> > $ bas/sep ex
> > $ lin ex
> > $ run ex
> > Hi from Basic!
> > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
> > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
> > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
> > Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 1024
> > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> >
> > Module EX
> > EX
> >
> > Module S1
> > S1
> >
> > Module S2
> > S2
> >
> > Arne
> It is, weirdly, triggered by the specific length of the source file path after logical evaluation. I have a reproducer, if you're interested.
Absolutely. Back when I first saw the report, I tried to find the edit that caused the regression. The only that could have been at fault
seemed fine (stupid, but fine) to me. Maybe this one will trigger something. Post here or email to me at some guessable email account.

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by: Jonathan - Mon, 15 May 2023 20:17 UTC

On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 5:20:14 PM UTC-4, John Reagan wrote:
> On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 2:48:42 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 8:25:22 PM UTC-4, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> > > On 5/11/2023 11:41 AM, John Reagan wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, May 10, 2023 at 4:38:39 PM UTC-4, Jonathan wrote:
> > > >> Any chance we're going to get /noseparate compilation with the
> > > >> Basic compiler? We're going to have to do some (a lot of?) work if
> > > >> this isn't available. (It stopped working after HP v1.7 Basic
> > > >> compiler.)
> > > >
> > > > /NOSEPERATE is the default. Do you mean /SEPARATE? Yes, I have a
> > > > bug report that it stopped working on the latest BASIC on Itanium.
> > > I cannot recreate with a trivial example. There must be something
> > > extra needed.
> > >
> > > Basic 1.8 on Alpha:
> > >
> > > $ type ex.bas
> > > program ex
> > >
> > > external sub s1
> > >
> > > call s1
> > >
> > > end program
> > > !
> > > sub s1
> > >
> > > external sub s2
> > >
> > > call s2
> > >
> > > end sub
> > > !
> > > sub s2
> > >
> > > print "Hi from Basic!"
> > >
> > > end sub
> > > $ bas ex
> > > $ lin ex
> > > $ run ex
> > > Hi from Basic!
> > > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > > Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023
> > > 20:14:08
> > > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
> > > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
> > > Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 128
> > > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> > >
> > > Module ex
> > > EX
> > > S1
> > > S2
> > >
> > > $ bas/sep ex
> > > $ lin ex
> > > $ run ex
> > > Hi from Basic!
> > > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > > Directory of ALPHA OBJECT library DISK2:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023
> > > 20:14:08
> > > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Creator: Librarian A09-32
> > > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:14:08 Library format: 3.0
> > > Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 128
> > > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> > >
> > > Module EX
> > > EX
> > >
> > > Module S1
> > > S1
> > >
> > > Module S2
> > > S2
> > >
> > > Basic 1.8 on Itanium:
> > >
> > > $ type ex.bas
> > > program ex
> > >
> > > external sub s1
> > >
> > > call s1
> > >
> > > end program
> > > !
> > > sub s1
> > >
> > > external sub s2
> > >
> > > call s2
> > >
> > > end sub
> > > !
> > > sub s2
> > >
> > > print "Hi from Basic!"
> > >
> > > end sub
> > > $ bas ex
> > > $ lin ex
> > > $ run ex
> > > Hi from Basic!
> > > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > > Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;2 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
> > > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
> > > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
> > > Number of modules: 1 Max. key length: 1024
> > > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> > >
> > > Module ex
> > > EX
> > > S1
> > > S2
> > >
> > > $ bas/sep ex
> > > $ lin ex
> > > $ run ex
> > > Hi from Basic!
> > > $ libr/obj/crea ex
> > > $ libr/obj/ins ex ex
> > > $ libr/obj/list/name ex
> > > Directory of ELF OBJECT library DISK1:[ARNE]ex.OLB;3 on 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05
> > > Creation date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Creator: Librarian I01-42
> > > Revision date: 11-MAY-2023 20:18:05 Library format: 6.0
> > > Number of modules: 3 Max. key length: 1024
> > > Other entries: 3 Preallocated index blocks: 213
> > > Recoverable deleted blocks: 0 Total index blocks used: 2
> > > Max. Number history records: 20 Library history records: 1
> > >
> > > Module EX
> > > EX
> > >
> > > Module S1
> > > S1
> > >
> > > Module S2
> > > S2
> > >
> > > Arne
> > It is, weirdly, triggered by the specific length of the source file path after logical evaluation. I have a reproducer, if you're interested.
> Absolutely. Back when I first saw the report, I tried to find the edit that caused the regression. The only that could have been at fault
> seemed fine (stupid, but fine) to me. Maybe this one will trigger something. Post here or email to me at some guessable email account.

I sent to the (I hope) guessable email account.

Jonathan

Subject	Author
Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Arne Vajhøj
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Arne Vajhøj
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Single Stage to Orbit
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	John Reagan
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	John H Reinhardt
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Single Stage to Orbit
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Robert A. Brooks
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Single Stage to Orbit
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Jonathan
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Arne Vajhøj
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	John Reagan
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Arne Vajhøj
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Jonathan
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	John Reagan
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Jonathan
Re: Native Pascal compiler for VMS x86-64 in test field test now	Jonathan