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* SecureCRT ?Jan-Erik Söderholm
+* Re: SecureCRT ?Johnny Billquist
|`- Re: SecureCRT ?Jan-Erik Söderholm
+* Re: SecureCRT ?Richard
|`* Re: SecureCRT ?Jan-Erik Söderholm
| `- Re: SecureCRT ?Richard
`* Re: SecureCRT ?Zane H. Healy
 `- Re: SecureCRT ?Steven Schweda

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Subject: SecureCRT ?
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 by: Jan-Erik Söderholm - Thu, 27 Apr 2023 10:10 UTC

Hi.

Just wanted to see if someone has used or is using the terminal
emulator called SecureCRT against VMS systems.

https://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html

I juts installed the 30 day try-out kit and directly saw that
our double hight text in our WELCOME.TXT does not work.

And another thing is that I have not found out if this one
supports the 7-bit Swedish/Finish ASCII setup.
Where "[", "]" and some other chars are replaced with åäöÅÄÖ.

So, if anyone has any experienses to share with this one...

We are currenty using Attachmate Extra (now Micro Focus) but
are just investigating alternatives...

I do not need examples of *other* emulators, my questions are
specifically about SecureCRT...

Regards,
Jan-Erik.

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From: bqt...@softjar.se (Johnny Billquist)
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Subject: Re: SecureCRT ?
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 00:37:44 +0200
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 by: Johnny Billquist - Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:37 UTC

Can't help with SecureCRT as such, but...

On 2023-04-27 12:10, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Just wanted to see if someone has used or is using the terminal
> emulator called SecureCRT against VMS systems.
>
> https://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html
>
> I juts installed the 30 day try-out kit and directly saw that
> our double hight text in our WELCOME.TXT does not work.
>
> And another thing is that I have not found out if this one
> supports the 7-bit Swedish/Finish ASCII setup.
> Where "[", "]" and some other chars are replaced with åäöÅÄÖ.

For this, you need to look for ISO-646 support. More specifically
ISO-646-SE, but if there is support for any ISO-646, then I think you
would probably be good. Might also be called NRC (national replacement
characters). Might at least help in order to search for support in
documentation...

Johnny

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 by: Jan-Erik Söderholm - Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:50 UTC

Den 2023-04-29 kl. 00:37, skrev Johnny Billquist:
> Can't help with SecureCRT as such, but...
>
> On 2023-04-27 12:10, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Just wanted to see if someone has used or is using the terminal
>> emulator called SecureCRT against VMS systems.
>>
>> https://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html
>>
>> I juts installed the 30 day try-out kit and directly saw that
>> our double hight text in our WELCOME.TXT does not work.
>>
>> And another thing is that I have not found out if this one
>> supports the 7-bit Swedish/Finish ASCII setup.
>> Where "[", "]" and some other chars are replaced with åäöÅÄÖ.
>
> For this, you need to look for ISO-646 support. More specifically
> ISO-646-SE, but if there is support for any ISO-646, then I think you would
> probably be good. Might also be called NRC (national replacement
> characters). Might at least help in order to search for support in
> documentation...
>
>   Johnny
>

Hi. Found the 7-bit support by trying some of the settings.
It was called "IA5 Svenskt".

IA5 is mentioned here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.50_(standard).
But yes, ISO-646 is probably what most refers to today.

I have some other issues with F-key codes and an application
where this doesn't work correctly. Can be that this application
is adjusted to the special setup and key redefinition that has
been done in the current Attachemate Extra in use...

Jan-Erik.

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From: legalize...@mail.xmission.com (Richard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SecureCRT ?
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 by: Richard - Mon, 1 May 2023 17:49 UTC

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

=?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> spake the secret code
<u2dhlv$1sbe8$1@dont-email.me> thusly:

>Just wanted to see if someone has used or is using the terminal
>emulator called SecureCRT against VMS systems.

I use SecureCRT all the time and have been a happy customer for many
years.

>I juts installed the 30 day try-out kit and directly saw that
>our double hight text in our WELCOME.TXT does not work.

I ran vttest <https://invisible-island.net/vttest/> on it and double
width and double height characters passed the test just fine.

Maybe see if you can build and run vttest.
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 by: Jan-Erik Söderholm - Sat, 20 May 2023 08:15 UTC

Den 2023-05-01 kl. 19:49, skrev Richard:
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
> =?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> spake the secret code
> <u2dhlv$1sbe8$1@dont-email.me> thusly:
>
>> Just wanted to see if someone has used or is using the terminal
>> emulator called SecureCRT against VMS systems.
>
> I use SecureCRT all the time and have been a happy customer for many
> years.
>
>> I juts installed the 30 day try-out kit and directly saw that
>> our double hight text in our WELCOME.TXT does not work.
>
> I ran vttest <https://invisible-island.net/vttest/> on it and double
> width and double height characters passed the test just fine.
>
> Maybe see if you can build and run vttest.

I have not yet run vttest, but I did get the double high/width
text to work, if I selected the font called "VT100". But that font
as such does not look particular nice... By using "Consolas" as an
example, double high is discplayed as two duplicate standard lines.

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 by: Richard - Tue, 30 May 2023 01:30 UTC

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

=?UTF-8?Q?Jan-Erik_S=c3=b6derholm?= <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> spake the secret code
<u49vj3$10rtq$1@dont-email.me> thusly:

>I have not yet run vttest, but I did get the double high/width
>text to work, if I selected the font called "VT100". But that font
>as such does not look particular nice... By using "Consolas" as an
>example, double high is discplayed as two duplicate standard lines.

That's what it would look like a non-VT100 terminal
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 by: Zane H. Healy - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 19:36 UTC

Jan-Erik S?derholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to see if someone has used or is using the terminal
> emulator called SecureCRT against VMS systems.
>
> https://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html

I've been happily using it for about 6-7 years now. It's not perfect, but
it's about the best solution I've been able to find for my Mac.

As it's not perfect, I do have a VT420 sitting next to my desk for when I
need it. That's mainly due to keyboard emulation. Though I seem to have an
additional problem, in that I don't seem to be able to get LAT working on
OpenVMS/x86.

Zane

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 by: Steven Schweda - Tue, 6 Jun 2023 20:27 UTC

> [...] I don't seem to be able to get LAT working on OpenVMS/x86.

I do:

ITS $ pipe latcp show servi | searc sys$pipe ident, "----", V87
Service Name Status Identification
---------------- ----------- -------------------------------------------------
V87 Available VMware, Inc. VMware7,1, VMS E9.2-1

ITS $ set host /lat v87
%LAT-S-CONNECTED, session to V87 established
%LAT-I-TODISCON, type ^\ to disconnect the session

I'm V87. Who are you?

Username: sms
Password:

Welcome to VMS (x86_64) E9.2-1 on V87.
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