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Agent...setting it up with eweka

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From: alo...@btinternet.com (alo)
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Subject: Agent...setting it up with eweka
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 by: alo - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:15 UTC

www.eweka.nl

Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
problems.

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From: ken1...@invalid.net (KenW)
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Subject: Re: Agent...setting it up with eweka
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 by: KenW - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:55 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:15:43 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:

>www.eweka.nl
>
>Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
>problems.

This is what I found

https://usenetproviders.com/en/providers/eweka/

KenW

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From: dic...@home.com (Richard Head)
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Subject: Re: Agent...setting it up with eweka
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 by: Richard Head - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 17:57 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:15:43 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:

>www.eweka.nl
>
>Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
>problems.
What problems are you having? I am on Eweka.

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 by: alo - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:16 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:57:54 +0100, Richard Head <dickie@home.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:15:43 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>www.eweka.nl
>>
>>Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
>>problems.
>What problems are you having? I am on Eweka.

Trying to set it up so I can post in the groups...

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Subject: Re: Agent...setting it up with eweka
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 by: Dennis Lee Bieber - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:31 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:16:53 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> declaimed the
following:

>On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:57:54 +0100, Richard Head <dickie@home.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:15:43 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>www.eweka.nl
>>>
>>>Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
>>>problems.
>>What problems are you having? I am on Eweka.
>
>Trying to set it up so I can post in the groups...

That doesn't tell us anything of use. At an extreme it could mean you
can't use a keyboard!

WHAT in your attempts is proving to be the problem... What have you
filled in on the Tools/Servers and Accounts [New>>] pages?

--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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 by: Richard Head - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:30 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:16:53 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:57:54 +0100, Richard Head <dickie@home.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:15:43 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>www.eweka.nl
>>>
>>>Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
>>>problems.
>>What problems are you having? I am on Eweka.
>
>Trying to set it up so I can post in the groups...
What server are you using? you could try this one
post.eweka.nl
let me know if it helps

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 by: wibble@bibble.com.in - Thu, 12 Aug 2021 21:39 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:16:53 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>Trying to set it up so I can post in the groups...

As others have said that tells us nothing.

However, have you enabled the setting in your account to say you want
to post through them? As standard the account is set to read only.
--
NNNN

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 by: Opinicus - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 05:01 UTC

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:15:43 +0100, alo <alo@btinternet.com> wrote:

> www.eweka.nl
> Trying to set up Agent with the above news=server... having
> problems.
These are my settings:
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Stash/news.eweka.nl.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Stash/post.eweka.nl.jpg

I've been using them for years w/o problems.

As someone else mentioned however, I think you have to contact Eweka
and request posting privileges.

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

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 by: non...@given.com - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 05:40 UTC

On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 08:01:50 +0300, Opinicus
<gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid> wrote:

>you have to contact Eweka
>and request posting privileges.

Yes. Unless you ask for these, you won't be able to post anything.

Eweka uses

sslreader.eweka.nl

as the default reading account.

However you can post only through

post.eweka.nl

You have to ask for that to be enabled, and also set that server as
the default posting account in Agent default for all newsgroups.

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 by: Opinicus - Fri, 13 Aug 2021 08:28 UTC

On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 07:40:42 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 08:01:50 +0300, Opinicus
> <gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid> wrote:> >you have to contact Eweka
> >and request posting privileges.

> Yes. Unless you ask for these, you won't be able to post anything.
> Eweka uses
> sslreader.eweka.nl
> as the default reading account.
> However you can post only through
> post.eweka.nl

> You have to ask for that to be enabled, and also set that server as
> the default posting account in Agent default for all newsgroups.

Thanks for confirming that. And thanks also for making me realize that
I'm the only one who's able to access the DropBox links that I posted.
Here are the (hopefully) correct ones:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ziusvc9c5xcvkrk/f.agent_news.eweka.nl.jpg?dl=0
https://bit.ly/3g0rwvc

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bo28xawk7owhzq/f.agent_post.eweka.nl.jpg?dl=0
https://bit.ly/3jRkcDd

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 11:28:45 +0300, Opinicus
<gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid> wrote:

>
>Thanks for confirming that. And thanks also for making me realize that
>I'm the only one who's able to access the DropBox links that I posted.
>Here are the (hopefully) correct ones:
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/ziusvc9c5xcvkrk/f.agent_news.eweka.nl.jpg?dl=0
>https://bit.ly/3g0rwvc
>
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/4bo28xawk7owhzq/f.agent_post.eweka.nl.jpg?dl=0
>https://bit.ly/3jRkcDd

I don't have SSL set on the posting server setup. Why would you have
a read and a seperate write server set up?
--
NNNN

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:43:12 +0100, "wibble@bibble.com.invalid"
<wibble@bibble.com.invalid> wrote:

> I don't have SSL set on the posting server setup. Why would you have
> a read and a seperate write server set up?

That question surpasses my Tech Grade. All I know is that's the way
Eweka told me to do it.

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 09:43:12 +0100, "wibble@bibble.com.invalid"
<wibble@bibble.com.invalid> wrote:

>Why would you have
>a read and a seperate write server set up?

Because that's the way that those who run Eweka decided to set it up.

Possibly considerations of load balancing, to keep their service both
fast and simple to maintain.

Given that probably the majority of their users mainly download and
only a minority ever upload anything. So maybe they had a good
technical case for the separation.

Whatever, you can easily enable it from the control panel. Once done,
the speed, retention. completeness -- and price -- are pretty
unbeatable in my opionion.

Been with them for years now, never a problem or any of the infamous
"Giganews mysteriouly incomplete, must be somebody else's fault"
entertainments.

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 23:01:40 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

> Been with them for years now, never a problem or any of the infamous
> "Giganews mysteriouly incomplete, must be somebody else's fault"
> entertainments.

So you're another Giganews refugee then? ;-) I also ditched them years
ago and have never regretted it.

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 23:01:40 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

>
>Because that's the way that those who run Eweka decided to set it up.
>

I asked because that is not the way they told me to set it up. When I
went from read only to write as well, their instruction was just to
change the server name to the write one.
--
NNNN

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On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 10:27:24 +0100, "wibble@bibble.com.invalid"
<wibble@bibble.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 23:01:40 +0200, none@given.com wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Because that's the way that those who run Eweka decided to set it up.
>>
>
>I asked because that is not the way they told me to set it up. When I
>went from read only to write as well, their instruction was just to
>change the server name to the write one.

On the "My Eweka" support page, under "Technical Questions", under
"How can I post?" they state:

>To post in a discussion group you need to use post.eweka.nl via Port 119.

> You can login with your current Eweka connection details.

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On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 08:23:09 +0300, Opinicus
<gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid> wrote:

>So you're another Giganews refugee then? ;-) I also ditched them years
>ago and have never regretted it.

Yes, I gave up on Giganews when I noticed just how often postings
were curiously incomplete on Giganews, yet seemed to be strangely all
present and correct on my fill-in blocksubscription to Astranews.

Looked around for a better service, and couldn't see anything that
Giganews and its subsidiaries were claiming that Eweka wasn't doing
far cheaper.

Added Eweka and lo and behold, immediately no more "incompletes"
Especially with the exact same postings. Hmmm...

Also, since changing to Eweka about 5 years ago, my fill-in block on
Astraweb has stayed pretty much completely untouched. I too have
never had reason to regret the change.

It's my suspicion that Giganews deliberately sabotages uploads in
order to avoid DMCA issues, while still claiming (plausible denial)
"completeness". Just such a shame that so many uploaders these days
somehow make so many errors, ain't it?.

"Can't have DMCA issues when the DMCA stuff can't actually be
downloaded, like...".

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On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 00:51:03 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 08:23:09 +0300, Opinicus
><gezgin@spamcop.net.which.is.not.quite.invalid> wrote:
>
>>So you're another Giganews refugee then? ;-) I also ditched them years
>>ago and have never regretted it.
>
>Yes, I gave up on Giganews when I noticed just how often postings
>were curiously incomplete on Giganews, yet seemed to be strangely all
>present and correct on my fill-in blocksubscription to Astranews.
>

My block buys from Astraweb and Newsdirect last me for years. I
don't know why anyone wants to pay a monthly fee for Usenet.
Compared to the block buying, monthly Usenet providers are expensive
and most often are a pain in the arse..

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On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 00:23:44 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

>
>On the "My Eweka" support page, under "Technical Questions", under
>"How can I post?" they state:
>
>>To post in a discussion group you need to use post.eweka.nl via Port 119.
>
>> You can login with your current Eweka connection details.

Indeed, but you can also use post.eweka.nl as your reading server too.
--
NNNN

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 by: Opinicus - Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:41 UTC

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 00:51:03 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

> Added Eweka and lo and behold, immediately no more "incompletes"

Eweka have the added benefit of their servers not being located in the
US, so they don't HAVE to obey DMCA orders. You can even post binaries
in all-text groups (like this one) and they'll obligingly propagate
them. (Not that I'm recommending such a thing of course and the
binaries won't get very far in any case.)

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

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 by: non...@given.com - Sun, 15 Aug 2021 15:12 UTC

On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:58:47 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:

> I don't know why anyone wants to pay a monthly fee for Usenet.

I do.

>Compared to the block buying, monthly Usenet providers are expensive

7 euros ($8) a month is not exactly what most people would call
"expensive".

>and most often are a pain in the arse..

Only if you're foolish enough to choose -- or stay with -- Giganews.

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On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 09:12:12 +0100, "wibble@bibble.com.invalid"
<wibble@bibble.com.invalid> wrote:

>Indeed, but you can also use post.eweka.nl as your reading server too.

"Belt and braces" strategy then, by the look of it. ;-)

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 by: Arthur Conan Doyle - Sun, 15 Aug 2021 16:55 UTC

harry@invalid.com wrote:

>My block buys from Astraweb and Newsdirect last me for years. I
>don't know why anyone wants to pay a monthly fee for Usenet.
>Compared to the block buying, monthly Usenet providers are expensive
>and most often are a pain in the arse..

Same here - I rarely pull binaries down these days. Too much garbage out there
and higher quality to rip a DVD or BluRay for tv/movies.

A block purchase for text groups lasts a very long time. Astraweb was bought out
a few years ago, but they seem to be maintaining their service. Plus they run
separate US and EU servers, so it's possible to pull any missing messages from
the other server.

--
Usenet: The world's first (and best) social network.

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 by: har...@invalid.com - Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:50 UTC

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 17:12:13 +0200, none@given.com wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:58:47 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:
>
>> I don't know why anyone wants to pay a monthly fee for Usenet.
>
>I do.
>
>>Compared to the block buying, monthly Usenet providers are expensive
>
>7 euros ($8) a month is not exactly what most people would call
>"expensive".

Multiply that by the 4 years x 12 months that my block buy has
lasted. *That* is expensive next to the $14 I paid for my 100 GB
block of usage back in april of '17.

4 years = 48 months x $8 = $384.

That *is* "expensive".

>>and most often are a pain in the arse..
>
>Only if you're foolish enough to choose -- or stay with -- Giganews.

I've had many Usenet providers over the decades and at least half of
those were a pain in the arse.

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 by: non...@given.com - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 06:30 UTC

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 12:50:17 -0500, harry@invalid.com wrote:

>>7 euros ($8) a month is not exactly what most people would call
>>"expensive".
>
>Multiply that by the 4 years x 12 months that my block buy has
>lasted. *That* is expensive next to the $14 I paid for my 100 GB
>block of usage back in april of '17.

>4 years = 48 months x $8 = $384.

Big deal. I can afford it. So can most people who use Usenet.
>
>That *is* "expensive".

"Expensive* is a value judgment. If someone judges that what they get
for this trivial investment is worth it for them for unlimited
downloads of what they're looking for, then it's worth it for them.

How much have you spent on Coca Cola and pizza during those 4 years?

>I've had many Usenet providers over the decades and at least half of
>those were a pain in the arse.

Sturgeon's Law.

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