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Re: Lanman98 to Raspios (bullseye) now blocked?

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 by: Paul Sprangers - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:42 UTC

In article <658541c059.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Ok so if you have browsed for a NFS server it will be in the SunFish
> window that has a title like NFS Servers.

> You will see the actual server s you can see there most likely with a IP
> address.

> Select mouse one of them and then hit the Menu mouse button and then
> Browse 'IP address' and you can set if the transport is UDP/TCP and also
> the NFS level.

> If you double click select mouse on the server you then have another
> window with a picture of a directory including the sunfish icon in it.

> Select that and then mouse menu and edit 'directory name' and you can :

> Name export - what it is called
> Filename and filetype choices
> Connection choices
> User id choices

Apologise for the extensive quote, but all of this happens exactly as you
describe. The only thing is that whatever I do next, for example a rename
in the 'Name export...' entry, Sunfish crashes. By continuously rerunning
Sunfish I eventually managed to rename the iconbar icon into something more
meaningful, but the frequent crashes hold me back from exploring the
program any further. It even crashes when I click in this Pluto window!

> All this is covered in the help file within Sunfish.

This may come as a surprise, but I did read the help file. It just didn't
help me to prevent the crashes.

Kind regards,
Paul

--
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 by: Doug Webb - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 11:46 UTC

In message <59c0369d61Paul@sprie.nl>
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
> Could it be the Pi4 (4té actually), that is
> too advanced for a program that hasn't been updated for 9 years?

It could be a factor and perhaps a recompile of the sources, which are
freely available, using the latest ROOL DDE may help.

The other thing is my Pi4 is running RISCOS 5.29 (6 Feb 2022) version.

There was some issues in earlier ROM's that caused system crashes on use
of menu which have been fixed in recent beta's.

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In article <e20845c059.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> The other thing is my Pi4 is running RISCOS 5.29 (6 Feb 2022) version.

Mine is 5.29 too, but exactly one year older

> There was some issues in earlier ROM's that caused system crashes on use
> of menu which have been fixed in recent beta's.

Perhaps, but I don't encounter system crashes on use of Menu at all, not
with nor without Sunfish. Sunfish just crashes alone, also with Select,
leaving the system intact.

Anyhow, I have a RComp 4té, and I rather wait for Andrew to come with a
tailored update. If that happens, I will try Sunfish again and let you
know.

Kind regards,
Paul

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In message <1c2b44c059.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> In message <8e0841c059.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> I get the message "RPC communication failed on the mount" in an error box.

>> Omniclient 2.28 (15 Mar 18) and NFS 0.71 (29 Jan 18)

> Most likely you have not enter the correct details.

> Just tried it to Moonfish running on another machine here:

> Server Name - Used IP address or can use it's name
> Directory Path - Put in the directory name that is being exported in this
> case 'NFS'
> User name - used 'nobody'

I am talking to a Synology NAS not moonfish so may well not be the same.

> And it is connected but you don't get the same flexibility that SunFish
> provides on NFS versions/transport type udp/TCP etc

Yes interesting differences.

> I have tried this on an ARMX6 and RaspberryPi4 and no crashes :-)

Since i have the new front end that is ARMv7 safe, no more crashes.

Thanks for trying.

--
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 by: Brian Howlett - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:04 UTC

On 25 Feb, Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> wrote:

> If you find Sunfish crashy, it's worth giving the NFS client included with
> RISC OS 5 (though it's not specific to RISC OS 5) a look in as Martin
> says.
> The one bit of instruction he's missed though is that it's turned off in
> OmniClient by default. To enable it change the line
> SetEval Omni$NFS
> to 1 in the !Omni.Files.Startup obey file. That causes the NFS client to
> be loaded after which you can enter the mount details along the lines
> described above,

Tried that but the module is not present here - RO 5.28 on Titanium.

Error from (unknown): File '<Omni$Dir>.RMStore.NFS' not found

Any idea where I can get the file?
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 by: Doug Webb - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:41 UTC

In message <1f1b62c059.BrianNews@bhowlett.plus.net>
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:

> Tried that but the module is not present here - RO 5.28 on Titanium.

> Error from (unknown): File '<Omni$Dir>.RMStore.NFS' not found

> Any idea where I can get the file?

You may have an old set of hard disc files so pop over to the "ROOL
downloads":https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common
site and then download the latest HardDisc4 Nightly Beta Build , change
the file type to &FFC , double select on it and then extract the
OminiClient from the disc build and copy it over your copy.

Repeat the changes to the Startup file and you should be OK then.

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 by: Kevin Wells - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 22:11 UTC

In message <1f1b62c059.BrianNews@bhowlett.plus.net>
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:

>On 25 Feb, Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> If you find Sunfish crashy, it's worth giving the NFS client included with
>> RISC OS 5 (though it's not specific to RISC OS 5) a look in as Martin
>> says.
>> The one bit of instruction he's missed though is that it's turned off in
>> OmniClient by default. To enable it change the line
>> SetEval Omni$NFS
>> to 1 in the !Omni.Files.Startup obey file. That causes the NFS client to
>> be loaded after which you can enter the mount details along the lines
>> described above,
>
>Tried that but the module is not present here - RO 5.28 on Titanium.
>
>Error from (unknown): File '<Omni$Dir>.RMStore.NFS' not found
>
>Any idea where I can get the file?

Try here:

<https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common>

HardDisc4 Inside the apps directory.

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 by: Brian Howlett - Fri, 25 Feb 2022 23:45 UTC

On 25 Feb, Kevin Wells <kev@kevsoft.co.uk> wrote:

> Try here:

> <https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common>

> HardDisc4 Inside the apps directory.

Thanks - I have it now and just need a bit of time to have a play with it.
Got it connecting to my Synology NAS box so far.
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In article <96e086c059.BrianNews@bhowlett.plus.net>,
Brian Howlett <news-spamtrap@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:

> Thanks - I have it now and just need a bit of time to have a play
> with it. Got it connecting to my Synology NAS box so far.

Can you reveal anything about how you did that?

I've got sunfish working but not Omni.
There doesn't appear to be any useful help information within the app.

Name: RED-music
Server name: RED (also tried 192.168.1.240)
Directory path: music (also tried /music and /volume1/music)
User name: bob ????
Password: ?????
Authenticator: ????

Without examples or instructions filling in the information is not
getting me anywhere. The last 3 items in particular are a problem.
I thought NFS had no concept of username and password, it was all UID
and GID and ip addresses and what is an authenticator?


Bob.

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In message <8e0841c0...@mytarbis.plus.com> Chris Hughes <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> I get the message "RPC communication failed on the mount" in an error box.
> Omniclient 2.28 (15 Mar 18) and NFS 0.71 (29 Jan 18)

Those are oddly old versions, maybe you missed an update? I'd have expected OmniNFS 0.73 (Jan 2020). OmniNFS doesn't do much, the real work is done by 'RMStore.NFS' which is also needed...

> In message <1f1b62c059...@bhowlett.plus.net> Brian Howlett <news-s...@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
> > Error from (unknown): File '<Omni$Dir>.RMStore.NFS' not found
> > Any idea where I can get the file?
> Try here:
> https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common
>
> HardDisc4 Inside the apps directory.

The standard set of ROOL apps (aside from !Boot) are also packaged as individual ZIPs, so you can avoid downloading the entire disc image by going to
https://packages.riscosopen.org/rool/ABCIndex.html

in this case scroll to "OmniClient". Of course there's no harm downloading the entire disc image either!
Sprow.

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In article <59c0b576b1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> I've got sunfish working but not Omni.
> There doesn't appear to be any useful help information within the app.

I can only describe how I managed to get an NFS connection with Omni:
From the iconbar menu go to Mounts -> Protocols -> NFS
Now enter...

Name: <the name that you want to see on the iconbar>
Server name: <the IP adress of your NAS>
Directory path: <the directory name, without slashes. Mine is Public>

.... and leave all other entries blanc.
I then get a special NFS icon on the iconbar that connects me to the Public
directory on the NAS.

I haven't done anything on the NAS itself. Apparently, my NAS allows an NFS
connection to the Public directory by default. For all other directories,
I'll probably have to do it myself. I just have yet to find out how.

Kind regards,
Paul Spranges

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 by: Bob Latham - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:43 UTC

In article <59c0bc3b59Paul@sprie.nl>,
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
> In article <59c0b576b1bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > I've got sunfish working but not Omni.
> > There doesn't appear to be any useful help information within the app.

> I can only describe how I managed to get an NFS connection with
> Omni: From the iconbar menu go to Mounts -> Protocols -> NFS Now
> enter...

> Name: <the name that you want to see on the iconbar> Server name:
> <the IP adress of your NAS> Directory path: <the directory name,
> without slashes. Mine is Public>

> ... and leave all other entries blanc. I then get a special NFS
> icon on the iconbar that connects me to the Public directory on the
> NAS.

Thanks Paul.

Just tried The following:

Name: REDmusic
Server name: 192.168.1.240
Directory path: music
all else blank

and

Name: REDpublic
Server name: 192.168.1.240
Directory path: public
all else blank

Both failed with "Insufficient Access".

And yet sunfish connects without passwords or issues.

NFS, dead easy. :-)

Bob.

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In article <59c0c32341bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> Both failed with "Insufficient Access".

This should be answered by someone with a lot more knowledge than me (mine
is close to zero), but "Insufficient Access" sounds like a restriction from
the NAS, rather than from Omni. Perhaps you need to enable special rights
on the NAS, or something like that (as I may have written before, my
knowledge is close to zero).

Kind regards,
Paul

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In article <59c0c5663fPaul@sprie.nl>,
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:
> In article <59c0c32341bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > Both failed with "Insufficient Access".

> This should be answered by someone with a lot more knowledge than
> me (mine is close to zero), but "Insufficient Access" sounds like a
> restriction from the NAS, rather than from Omni. Perhaps you need
> to enable special rights on the NAS, or something like that (as I
> may have written before, my knowledge is close to zero).

Same as mine then Paul. :-)

Thanks.

Bob.

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Bottom line for me is this:

LM98 connects to the DiskStation.

Server: DiskStation
Share: DStuff
User: Myusername
Password: mypassword.

Read, write, upload, download no problems.

Sunfish.
--------
Still a complete waste of time, shows a small DiskStation window, does
nothing else... As there's no way to configure anything in SunFish I'm not
surprised.

OmniClient.
-----------
Using the LM protocols connects to the Diskstation, and works the same as
LM98.

OmniClient.
-----------
Using the NFS protocols and entering the required data.
(See above)
No idea what the Authenticator field is for.

** WimpError ** from OmniClient
Error : &00012112
Message: RPC communication failed on mount (RPC Service not available on
remote host (not registered))

No idea what that means either.

So here I'm wasting my time. :-(

D.

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In article <59c0c888c9news@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> ** WimpError ** from OmniClient Error : &00012112 Message: RPC
> communication failed on mount (RPC Service not available on remote
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> No idea what that means either.

One assumes an NFS server is not running on the remote machine.

--
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In message <255c5673-a79f-4bdc-861a-f81a6512a047n@googlegroups.com>
Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <8e0841c0...@mytarbis.plus.com> Chris Hughes
> <new...@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> I get the message "RPC communication failed on the mount" in an error box.
>> Omniclient 2.28 (15 Mar 18) and NFS 0.71 (29 Jan 18)

> Those are oddly old versions, maybe you missed an update? I'd have
> expected OmniNFS 0.73 (Jan 2020). OmniNFS doesn't do much, the real work
> is done by 'RMStore.NFS' which is also needed...

Updated and makes no difference, same error message :-(
But using SunFish have access, so really odd with Omni

>> In message <1f1b62c059...@bhowlett.plus.net> Brian Howlett
>> <news-s...@brianhowlett.me.uk> wrote:
>>> Error from (unknown): File '<Omni$Dir>.RMStore.NFS' not found
>>> Any idea where I can get the file?
>> Try here:
>> https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/common
>>
>> HardDisc4 Inside the apps directory.

> The standard set of ROOL apps (aside from !Boot) are also packaged as
> individual ZIPs, so you can avoid downloading the entire disc image by
> going to
> https://packages.riscosopen.org/rool/ABCIndex.html

Now saved that link. It would be useful if it was linked too from the main
ROOL site

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In message <59c0ce9082chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <59c0c888c9news@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>> ** WimpError ** from OmniClient Error : &00012112 Message: RPC
>> communication failed on mount (RPC Service not available on remote
>> host (not registered))

>> No idea what that means either.

> One assumes an NFS server is not running on the remote machine.

I have had the same message and it is running on the Synology NAS.

Got it working now with Sunfish, but not with Omni(NFS) - I get the above
message when using Omni(NFS)

Note I have update version Of !Omni after Sprow's comments made no
difference.

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In message <59c0380e57Paul@sprie.nl>
Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> wrote:

> In article <63df4320-7c95-4672-970f-46f47e6c8aben@googlegroups.com>,
> Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > SetEval Omni$NFS
>
> My former post crossed yours. Setting Omni$NFS to 1 enables the extra
> options indeed. But unfotunately, it doesn't change anything about the
> horrible and continuous crashes.

Try turning alignment exceptions off.

David

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 by: David Higton - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:28 UTC

In message <b2d8d1c059.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <59c0ce9082chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
> News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <59c0c888c9news@triffid.co.uk>,
> > Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > > ** WimpError ** from OmniClient Error : &00012112 Message: RPC
> > > communication failed on mount (RPC Service not available on remote host
> > > (not registered))
>
> > > No idea what that means either.
>
> > One assumes an NFS server is not running on the remote machine.
>
> I have had the same message and it is running on the Synology NAS.
>
> Got it working now with Sunfish, but not with Omni(NFS) - I get the above
> message when using Omni(NFS)

Same here. There is definitely a difference in the implementation of the
protocol between Sunfish and Omni.

I can get a connection and see the share via Omni and NFS if I leave the
username as "nobody" and leave the password blank, but it's read only -
I cannot write anything to it.

I used Wiresalmon last night to look at the difference between what was
sent using "nobody/(blank)" and "user/password", and IIRC the latter
made an RPC call to pcnfsd, which doesn't seem to be running on my NAS
(OpenMediaVault). I must have another look tonight, and also look at how
Sunfish does it.

David

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 by: Paul Sprangers - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:34 UTC

In article <de6d81c059.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

>> But unfotunately, it doesn't change anything about the
> > horrible and continuous crashes.

> Try turning alignment exceptions off.

They're turned off by default.

Kind regards,
Paul

--
http://www.riscos.sprie.nl

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 by: Chris Hughes - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:04 UTC

In message <6e27e8c059.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:

> In message <b2d8d1c059.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
> Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> In message <59c0ce9082chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
>> News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <59c0c888c9news@triffid.co.uk>,
>>> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> ** WimpError ** from OmniClient Error : &00012112 Message: RPC
>>>> communication failed on mount (RPC Service not available on remote host
>>>> (not registered))
>>
>>>> No idea what that means either.
>>
>>> One assumes an NFS server is not running on the remote machine.
>>
>> I have had the same message and it is running on the Synology NAS.
>>
>> Got it working now with Sunfish, but not with Omni(NFS) - I get the above
>> message when using Omni(NFS)

> Same here. There is definitely a difference in the implementation of the
> protocol between Sunfish and Omni.

I agree, any idea where Omni stores its mount files?

> I can get a connection and see the share via Omni and NFS if I leave the
> username as "nobody" and leave the password blank, but it's read only -
> I cannot write anything to it.

I can't even get that to work for some reason.

> I used Wiresalmon last night to look at the difference between what was
> sent using "nobody/(blank)" and "user/password", and IIRC the latter
> made an RPC call to pcnfsd, which doesn't seem to be running on my NAS
> (OpenMediaVault). I must have another look tonight, and also look at how
> Sunfish does it.

interesting.

--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022
check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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 by: Dave - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:51 UTC

In article <59c0ce9082chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>,
News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <59c0c888c9news@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> > ** WimpError ** from OmniClient Error : &00012112 Message: RPC
> > communication failed on mount (RPC Service not available on remote
> > host (not registered))

> > No idea what that means either.

> One assumes an NFS server is not running on the remote machine.

It most positively is... A Synology NAS and even though I turned the NFS
on a few days ago, I again checked while I was testing earlier today and
it is on.

Dave

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 by: Dave - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:08 UTC

In article <b2d8d1c059.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

[Snip]

> I have had the same message and it is running on the Synology NAS.

Ditto mine is a Synology NAS.

> Got it working now with Sunfish, but not with Omni(NFS) - I get the
> above message when using Omni(NFS)

> Note I have update version Of !Omni after Sprow's comments made no
> difference.

How did you get it to work with Sunfish?

I can't get Sunfish to do anything other than display a small window with
a DiskStation icon in it, aside from that it does nothing.

How do you configure this excremental thing?

DiskStation is the Server
DStuff is the directory containing files.

Where is the UI to enter the details required?

Dave

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 by: Dave - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:16 UTC

In article <22fff0c059.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
[Snippy]

> I agree, any idea where Omni stores its mount files?

Here on RISC OS 6.20 it's stored in..

HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Omni.Mounts

On RPCEmu running RISC OS 5.29 it's stored in...

HostFS::HostFS.$.!Boot.Choices.Omni.Mounts

Dave

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