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Subject: MMS building FMS forms crashing on X86
From: iai...@issinoho.com (issinoho)
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 by: issinoho - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:22 UTC

Hi, I know the information isn't a huge amount to go on but I'm hoping that I can get some pointers on tracking down this issue, whilst preserving IPR from a public forum.
We have a complex set of MMS scripts building libraries, shared images, executables and FMS forms. The code builds & works correctly on IA64.
My issue is when the process gets to the point of updating a forms library with a form whereupon it crashes out with an undefined function symbol error.
I can't see a way of getting more information about what is going on - perhaps experienced MMS and/or FMS developers could advise.
Anyway here is the log sequence (anonymized).

%MMS-I-GMTIMFND, Time for MY_USER_MENU.FLG is 23-JUL-1993 13:12:03.30
%MMS-I-GMTIMFND, Time for MY_USER_MENU.FRM is 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00
%MMS-I-GWKOLDNOD, Target MY_USER_MENU.FRM is older than MY_USER_MENU.FLG
%MMS-I-GWKWILLEX, MMS will try executing action line to update target MY_USER_MENU.FRM
FMS/TRANSLATE MY_USER_MENU.FLG
%MMS-I-GWKEXESTS, Status of executed command is %X18F29A91.
%MMS-I-GWKUPDONE, Completed update for target MY_USER_MENU.FRM
%MMS-I-GWKOLDNOD, Target MY$LIBS:USER_FMS_LIB.FLB(MY_USER_MENU=MY_USER_MENU.FRM) is older than MY_USER_MENU.FRM
%MMS-I-GWKWILLEX, MMS will try executing action line to update target MY$LIBS:USER_FMS_LIB.FLB(MY_USER_MENU=MY_USER_MENU.FRM)
%SYSTEM-F-CALLUNDEFSYM, Call using undefined function symbol
<CR><LF> Improperly handled condition, image exit forced by last chance handle`
Signal arguments: Number = 0000000000000003
Name = 0000000000003434
000000008005D808
000000000000001B
Register dump:
RAX = 0000000000000500 RDI = 0000000000100001 RSI = 0000000000003434
RDX = 000000007ACDD740 RCX = 0000000000000000 R8 = 0000000000014008
R9 = 0000000000000019 RBX = 000000007FFCF898 RBP = 000000007ACDDB90
R10 = 000000000000000D R11 = 000000000000000C R12 = 000000007ACE5A38
R13 = 0000000000000000 R14 = 000000007AEBA170 R15 = 00000000000DB010
RIP = 000000008005D808 RSP = 000000007ACDDAD8 SS = 000000000000001B

Any help would be appreciated. TIA.

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Subject: Re: MMS building FMS forms crashing on X86
From: iai...@issinoho.com (issinoho)
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 by: issinoho - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:25 UTC

On Thursday, 6 July 2023 at 14:22:05 UTC+1, issinoho wrote:
> Hi, I know the information isn't a huge amount to go on but I'm hoping that I can get some pointers on tracking down this issue, whilst preserving IPR from a public forum.
> We have a complex set of MMS scripts building libraries, shared images, executables and FMS forms. The code builds & works correctly on IA64.
> My issue is when the process gets to the point of updating a forms library with a form whereupon it crashes out with an undefined function symbol error.
> I can't see a way of getting more information about what is going on - perhaps experienced MMS and/or FMS developers could advise.
> Anyway here is the log sequence (anonymized).
>
> %MMS-I-GMTIMFND, Time for MY_USER_MENU.FLG is 23-JUL-1993 13:12:03.30
> %MMS-I-GMTIMFND, Time for MY_USER_MENU.FRM is 17-NOV-1858 00:00:00.00
> %MMS-I-GWKOLDNOD, Target MY_USER_MENU.FRM is older than MY_USER_MENU.FLG
> %MMS-I-GWKWILLEX, MMS will try executing action line to update target MY_USER_MENU.FRM
> FMS/TRANSLATE MY_USER_MENU.FLG
> %MMS-I-GWKEXESTS, Status of executed command is %X18F29A91.
> %MMS-I-GWKUPDONE, Completed update for target MY_USER_MENU.FRM
> %MMS-I-GWKOLDNOD, Target MY$LIBS:USER_FMS_LIB.FLB(MY_USER_MENU=MY_USER_MENU.FRM) is older than MY_USER_MENU.FRM
> %MMS-I-GWKWILLEX, MMS will try executing action line to update target MY$LIBS:USER_FMS_LIB.FLB(MY_USER_MENU=MY_USER_MENU.FRM)
> %SYSTEM-F-CALLUNDEFSYM, Call using undefined function symbol
> <CR><LF> Improperly handled condition, image exit forced by last chance handle`
> Signal arguments: Number = 0000000000000003
> Name = 0000000000003434
> 000000008005D808
> 000000000000001B
> Register dump:
> RAX = 0000000000000500 RDI = 0000000000100001 RSI = 0000000000003434
> RDX = 000000007ACDD740 RCX = 0000000000000000 R8 = 0000000000014008
> R9 = 0000000000000019 RBX = 000000007FFCF898 RBP = 000000007ACDDB90
> R10 = 000000000000000D R11 = 000000000000000C R12 = 000000007ACE5A38
> R13 = 0000000000000000 R14 = 000000007AEBA170 R15 = 00000000000DB010
> RIP = 000000008005D808 RSP = 000000007ACDDAD8 SS = 000000000000001B
>
> Any help would be appreciated. TIA.

OpenVMS V9.2-1, QEMU Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009)
VSI X86VMS MMS V4.0-4
VSI X86VMS C X7.4-785
VSI FMS Version 2.6-4 for OpenVMS x86_64 Systems

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 by: Robert A. Brooks - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:38 UTC

On 7/6/2023 9:22 AM, issinoho wrote:

> Register dump:
> RAX = 0000000000000500 RDI = 0000000000100001 RSI = 0000000000003434
> RDX = 000000007ACDD740 RCX = 0000000000000000 R8 = 0000000000014008
> R9 = 0000000000000019 RBX = 000000007FFCF898 RBP = 000000007ACDDB90
> R10 = 000000000000000D R11 = 000000000000000C R12 = 000000007ACE5A38
> R13 = 0000000000000000 R14 = 000000007AEBA170 R15 = 00000000000DB010
> RIP = 000000008005D808 RSP = 000000007ACDDAD8 SS = 000000000000001B
>
> Any help would be appreciated. TIA.

Contact VSI

--

--- Rob

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Subject: Re: MMS building FMS forms crashing on X86
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 by: John Reagan - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 18:50 UTC

On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 9:40:54 AM UTC-4, Robert A. Brooks wrote:
> On 7/6/2023 9:22 AM, issinoho wrote:
>
> > Register dump:
> > RAX = 0000000000000500 RDI = 0000000000100001 RSI = 0000000000003434
> > RDX = 000000007ACDD740 RCX = 0000000000000000 R8 = 0000000000014008
> > R9 = 0000000000000019 RBX = 000000007FFCF898 RBP = 000000007ACDDB90
> > R10 = 000000000000000D R11 = 000000000000000C R12 = 000000007ACE5A38
> > R13 = 0000000000000000 R14 = 000000007AEBA170 R15 = 00000000000DB010
> > RIP = 000000008005D808 RSP = 000000007ACDDAD8 SS = 000000000000001B
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
> Contact VSI
>
> --
>
> --- Rob
That register dump is just the outcome of lack of traceback for something linked /NOTRACEBACK. No evidence of a system bug here (yet)

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