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* Larger than expected volume of duplicates?Jesse Rehmer
+- Re: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?The Doctor
`* Re: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?Julien ÉLIE
 `* Re: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?Jesse Rehmer
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Subject: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?
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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Thu, 26 May 2022 15:37 UTC

Is anyone else seeing a larger than normal amount of duplicate articles
the last few days?

Since May 23 I'm seeing thousands of duplicate articles per day and
typically see a lot less.

I did upgrade to INN 2.7.0rc1 around this same time, so unsure if more
duplicates are being logged than previously, or if others are seeing the
same thing. It is not limited to a specific peer, but those who I
accept more articles from have a higher count.

Before I go too deep down the rabbit hole I was curious if other admins
were seeing the same.

Duplicate count for the last bit:

May 25 - 4843
May 24 - 2899
May 23 - 3607
May 22 - 220
May 21 - 49
May 20 - 101
May 19 - 292
May 18 - 355
May 17 - 801
May 16 - 59

Cheers,

Jesse

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From: doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
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Subject: Re: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 19:56:56 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 26 May 2022 19:56 UTC

In article <t6o6sl$3sif$1@bwh01.blueworldhosting.com>,
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>Is anyone else seeing a larger than normal amount of duplicate articles
>the last few days?
>
>Since May 23 I'm seeing thousands of duplicate articles per day and
>typically see a lot less.
>
>I did upgrade to INN 2.7.0rc1 around this same time, so unsure if more
>duplicates are being logged than previously, or if others are seeing the
>same thing. It is not limited to a specific peer, but those who I
>accept more articles from have a higher count.
>
>Before I go too deep down the rabbit hole I was curious if other admins
>were seeing the same.
>
>Duplicate count for the last bit:
>
>May 25 - 4843
>May 24 - 2899
>May 23 - 3607
>May 22 - 220
>May 21 - 49
>May 20 - 101
>May 19 - 292
>May 18 - 355
>May 17 - 801
>May 16 - 59
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jesse

I run daily sanp And I am not seeing that.
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From: iul...@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid (Julien ÉLIE)
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Subject: Re: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 22:34:47 +0200
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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Thu, 26 May 2022 20:34 UTC

Hi Jesse,

> I did upgrade to INN 2.7.0rc1 around this same time, so unsure if more
> duplicates are being logged than previously, or if others are seeing the
> same thing.  It is not limited to a specific peer, but those who I
> accept more articles from have a higher count.

AFAIK, there aren't any recent changes about how duplicates are handled.
INN 2.7.0 does not behave differently than 2.6.x as for that.

> Duplicate count for the last bit:
>
> May 25 - 4843
> May 24 - 2899
> May 23 - 3607
> May 22 - 220
> May 21 - 49
> May 20 - 101
> May 19 - 292
> May 18 - 355
> May 17 - 801
> May 16 - 59

The numbers were also changing drastically before (59 -> 801 -> 355 ->
.... -> 49)...

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Julien ÉLIE

« Il n'y a que le premier pas qui coûte. » (Mme du Deffand)

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From: jesse.re...@blueworldhosting.com (Jesse Rehmer)
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Subject: Re: Larger than expected volume of duplicates?
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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Thu, 26 May 2022 20:54 UTC

On 5/26/22 3:34 PM, Julien ÉLIE wrote:

> AFAIK, there aren't any recent changes about how duplicates are handled.
>  INN 2.7.0 does not behave differently than 2.6.x as for that.

I didn't think so, but the timing of my upgrade corresponded almost
exactly when I noticed an uptick. It is the only change I've made recently.

> The numbers were also changing drastically before (59 -> 801 -> 355 ->
> ... -> 49)...

They do fluctuate, but looking back through my INN reports prior to the
last couple days the highest duplicate count in a 24 hour period was
842. It is not causing a problem, just an odd increase. When I examine
headers of duplicate articles I do not find any commonality (posting
host, peer, etc.).

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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Fri, 27 May 2022 19:59 UTC

Hi Jesse,

> They do fluctuate, but looking back through my INN reports prior to the
> last couple days the highest duplicate count in a 24 hour period was
> 842.  It is not causing a problem, just an odd increase.  When I examine
> headers of duplicate articles I do not find any commonality (posting
> host, peer, etc.).

It would be interesting to know where the duplicates come from.

https://news.aioe.org/stats/innreport-reports/
news.aioe.org receives about 12,000 articles a day, with 0 duplicate.

Same thing for my news server, 0 duplicate (but with less articles,
about a thousand a day).

Aren't your peers streaming you articles? (CHECK before TAKETHIS, that
is to say they ask whether you have a give Message-ID before sending you
the article; otherwise, if they send you articles directly without
checking you already have them, it will give duplicates...)

--
Julien ÉLIE

« Il n'y a que le premier pas qui coûte. » (Mme du Deffand)

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