Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

On 10/12/21 11:53 AM, Divarin wrote:
> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

Cost.

The last I heard, registering a new top level domain was about a quarter
of a million dollars start up and about 100 thousand dollars a year ongoing.

I suspect that there isn't enough demand to cover that cost.

That also completely elides the technical complications and requirement.

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On 10/12/21 3:06 PM, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 10/12/21 11:53 AM, Divarin wrote:
>> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
>> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!
>
> Cost.
>
> The last I heard, registering a new top level domain was about a quarter
> of a million dollars start up and about 100 thousand dollars a year
> ongoing.
>
> I suspect that there isn't enough demand to cover that cost.
>
> That also completely elides the technical complications and requirement.

I would be joyous to have MYNAME dot BBS.

The TLD racket is a monumental grift. It's just a entry in a database.
We don't even need registrars. This is just part of the grift for the
military-industrial complex to maintain censorship power over the big
world network.

DNS and name resolution is stuck 30 years in the past to protect the big
players that have already sewed up the market.

The rich are a hill and progress is a big wagon you must push up the
hill - while the hill bludgeons your kneecaps.

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On 10/21/21 10:05 PM, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
> I would be joyous to have MYNAME dot BBS.

:-)

> The TLD racket is a monumental grift.

I disagree.

> It's just a entry in a database.

Some what yes, and more so no.

It's not /just/ an entry in a database. It's a database. It's a
geographically distributed and resilient database that merges with
multiple counter parts run by disparate entities in many different
countries.

Calling it /just/ an entry in a database is about like calling the
(inter)national electric grid /just/ wires in the wall.

> We don't even need registrars.

How pray tell will we deal with someone owning (in so much as you can
own something you rent and thus occupy) something while preventing
others from squatting on your ... asset?

There has to be some organization system to apply some order to what
would otherwise become chaos. Registrars and registries are what create
the order out of the chaos.

The technical requirements for operating a TLD almost demand a medium to
large company to pay for. It's so far from an old PC that you run some
software on that it's not even funny.

> This is just part of the grift for the military-industrial complex
> to maintain censorship power over the big world network.

Acquiring, operating, securing that technical infrastructure costs
money. Hence why it costs so much the higher up the food chain you go.

It's no /just/ grift. There is true reasoning behind much of it. Sure,
there are some that will extort as much money as they can. But you
don't have to do business with them.

> DNS and name resolution is stuck 30 years in the past to protect the
> big players that have already sewed up the market.

I disagree. I routinely use DNS technology that was developed or
enhanced within the last 5-15 years.

The big players that are being protected, meaning holding technology
advancement back, aren't the DNS operators. It's other big companies
that are not adopting new technology that are holding the DNS industry back.

> The rich are a hill and progress is a big wagon you must push up the
> hill - while the hill bludgeons your kneecaps.

The technologists are standing on the top of the hill having invented
the wagon, built the wagon, loaded as many slow movers into it as
possible, and pushed it up the hill, who are now looking back at the
rest of the industry wondering why they aren't following suit.

Try leading by example.

Try using an alternate naming root.

Do that for a few years and see what you think.

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:57:53 -0600
Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:

You should really have a look at ENS. https://ens.domains/

It pokes holes in pretty much all your arguments about the need for a
centralized registrar.

> On 10/21/21 10:05 PM, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
> > I would be joyous to have MYNAME dot BBS.
>
> :-)
>
> > The TLD racket is a monumental grift.
>
> I disagree.
>
> > It's just a entry in a database.
>
> Some what yes, and more so no.
>
> It's not /just/ an entry in a database. It's a database. It's a
> geographically distributed and resilient database that merges with
> multiple counter parts run by disparate entities in many different
> countries.
>
> Calling it /just/ an entry in a database is about like calling the
> (inter)national electric grid /just/ wires in the wall.
>
> > We don't even need registrars.
>
> How pray tell will we deal with someone owning (in so much as you can
> own something you rent and thus occupy) something while preventing
> others from squatting on your ... asset?
>
> There has to be some organization system to apply some order to what
> would otherwise become chaos. Registrars and registries are what
> create the order out of the chaos.
>
> The technical requirements for operating a TLD almost demand a medium
> to large company to pay for. It's so far from an old PC that you run
> some software on that it's not even funny.
>
> > This is just part of the grift for the military-industrial complex
> > to maintain censorship power over the big world network.
>
> Acquiring, operating, securing that technical infrastructure costs
> money. Hence why it costs so much the higher up the food chain you
> go.
>
> It's no /just/ grift. There is true reasoning behind much of it.
> Sure, there are some that will extort as much money as they can. But
> you don't have to do business with them.
>
> > DNS and name resolution is stuck 30 years in the past to protect
> > the big players that have already sewed up the market.
>
> I disagree. I routinely use DNS technology that was developed or
> enhanced within the last 5-15 years.
>
> The big players that are being protected, meaning holding technology
> advancement back, aren't the DNS operators. It's other big companies
> that are not adopting new technology that are holding the DNS
> industry back.
>
> > The rich are a hill and progress is a big wagon you must push up
> > the hill - while the hill bludgeons your kneecaps.
>
> The technologists are standing on the top of the hill having invented
> the wagon, built the wagon, loaded as many slow movers into it as
> possible, and pushed it up the hill, who are now looking back at the
> rest of the industry wondering why they aren't following suit.
>
> Try leading by example.
>
> Try using an alternate naming root.
>
> Do that for a few years and see what you think.
>
>
>

Tedward <usenet@xy0.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:57:53 -0600
> Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
>
> You should really have a look at ENS. https://ens.domains/

Oh good, the blockchain, so resolving a URL can take longer and longer and
longer every time and burn resources purely so someone can feel good about
not being cEnTrALiZeD.

Surely this system will be immune to the wealthy accreting power, just like
Bitcoin.

Oh wait.

On 10/12/2021 7:53 PM, Divarin wrote:
> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!
>
>

https://www.opennic.org/ does have in fact a .bbs top level domain, but
to use it people have to modify their DNS settings.

On Oct 12, 2021 at 12:53:27 PM EDT, "Divarin"
<donotreply.Divarin@mutinybbs.com> wrote:

> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

It's pretty fucking GAY is what it is....!!!!

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k> On 10/12/2021 7:53 PM, Divarin wrote:
> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!
>
>
k> https://www.opennic.org/ does have in fact a .bbs top level domain,
k> but to use it people have to modify their DNS settings.

That is really interesting to know. I'm going to have to contact my domain
provider to add that TLD to my already existing ones.

Thanks for the info!

Best regards,
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On 3/31/2024 8:22 PM, Marc Lewis wrote:
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> <On 04Jan2024 10:31 kyonshi wrote a message to All regarding Re: .bbs tld? >
>
>
> k> On 10/12/2021 7:53 PM, Divarin wrote:
>> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
>> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!
>>
>>
> k> https://www.opennic.org/ does have in fact a .bbs top level domain,
> k> but to use it people have to modify their DNS settings.
>
> That is really interesting to know. I'm going to have to contact my domain
> provider to add that TLD to my already existing ones.
>
> Thanks for the info!
>
> Best regards,
> Marc
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Well, opennic is sort of an alternate NIC, I don't know if they would
want to use that one instead of the normal one.

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> Why in the world is there a top level domain name ".boats" but not a
> ".bbs"?! that's just a travesty!

JD> It's pretty ####ing GAY is what it is....!!!!

Non sequitur.

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