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* 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?Peter Dassow
`* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) worksdott.Piergiorgio
 `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?Tom Lake
  `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) worksdott.Piergiorgio
   `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) worksdxforth
    `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?William Gallant
     `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?Udo Munk
      +* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?William Gallant
      |`- Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?Chris Syntichakis
      `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?Peter Higgins
       `* Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?William Gallant
        `- Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?Peter Higgins

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Subject: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?
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 by: Peter Dassow - Fri, 22 Oct 2021 11:10 UTC

Does anybody tried already https://github.com/ibara/8088ify ?

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Subject: Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works
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 by: dott.Piergiorgio - Fri, 5 Nov 2021 13:03 UTC

On 22/10/21 13:10, Peter Dassow wrote:
> Does anybody tried already https://github.com/ibara/8088ify ?

These type of program (8080 to 8086/8) ought to have never worked...

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

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Subject: Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?
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 by: Tom Lake - Fri, 5 Nov 2021 17:41 UTC

On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:03:26 AM UTC-4, dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
> On 22/10/21 13:10, Peter Dassow wrote:
> > Does anybody tried already https://github.com/ibara/8088ify ?
> These type of program (8080 to 8086/8) ought to have never worked...
>
> Best regards from Italy,
> dott. Piergiorgio.
Why shouldn't they have worked? Intel designed both chips and specifically made the 8086/8088 architecture
be upward-compatible with the 8080. Once the 8086 segment registers are initialized, it's almost a purely mechanical translation
from 8080 to 8086. It's the ideal job for a computer program.

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Subject: Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works
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 by: dott.Piergiorgio - Thu, 2 Dec 2021 22:51 UTC

On 05/11/21 18:41, Tom Lake wrote:
> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:03:26 AM UTC-4, dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
>> On 22/10/21 13:10, Peter Dassow wrote:
>>> Does anybody tried already https://github.com/ibara/8088ify ?
>> These type of program (8080 to 8086/8) ought to have never worked...
>>
>> Best regards from Italy,
>> dott. Piergiorgio.
> Why shouldn't they have worked? Intel designed both chips and specifically made the 8086/8088 architecture
> be upward-compatible with the 8080. Once the 8086 segment registers are initialized, it's almost a purely mechanical translation
> from 8080 to 8086. It's the ideal job for a computer program.

Because this mech xlation has led to mess-dog...

Best regards (and apologies for the nonsense coming from a misguided
compatriot...) from Italy,
dott.Piergiorgio.

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Subject: Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works
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 by: dxforth - Fri, 3 Dec 2021 00:06 UTC

On 3/12/2021 09:51, dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
> On 05/11/21 18:41, Tom Lake wrote:
>> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:03:26 AM UTC-4, dott.Piergiorgio wrote:
>>> On 22/10/21 13:10, Peter Dassow wrote:
>>>> Does anybody tried already https://github.com/ibara/8088ify ?
>>> These type of program (8080 to 8086/8) ought to have never worked...
>>>
>>> Best regards from Italy,
>>> dott. Piergiorgio.
>> Why shouldn't they have worked? Intel designed both chips and specifically made the 8086/8088 architecture
>> be upward-compatible with the 8080. Once the 8086 segment registers are initialized, it's almost a purely mechanical translation
>> from 8080 to 8086. It's the ideal job for a computer program.
>
>
> Because this mech xlation has led to mess-dog...
>
> Best regards (and apologies for the nonsense coming from a misguided
> compatriot...) from Italy,
> dott.Piergiorgio.

Any mess was due to IBM adopting an old filesystem for a new product :)
One more reason (were it were needed) had IBM gone with Kildall, it
wouldn't have lasted.

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 by: William Gallant - Thu, 16 Dec 2021 20:55 UTC

William Gallant here -

Does anyone have an already compiled 8088ify executable which runs on MS-DOS?
Need one bad.

-- Merry Christmas

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Subject: Re: 8088ify (translating CP/M-80 programs to DOS 8088 programs) works ?
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sigma.r...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 21:55:32 UTC+1:
> William Gallant here -
>
> Does anyone have an already compiled 8088ify executable which runs on MS-DOS?
> Need one bad.

dBase 2.41

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On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 7:23:38 PM UTC-5, Udo Munk wrote:
> sigma.r...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 21:55:32 UTC+1:
> > William Gallant here -
> >
> > Does anyone have an already compiled 8088ify executable which runs on MS-DOS?
> > Need one bad.
> dBase 2.41

Yes. But where can i get a copy of dBase 2.41 for MS-DOS?

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On Friday, 17 December 2021 at 02:01:29 UTC, sigma.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 7:23:38 PM UTC-5, Udo Munk wrote:
> > sigma.r...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 21:55:32 UTC+1:
> > > William Gallant here -
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an already compiled 8088ify executable which runs on MS-DOS?
> > > Need one bad.
> > dBase 2.41
> Yes. But where can i get a copy of dBase 2.41 for MS-DOS?

https://winworldpc.com/product/dbase/ii-v2x

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, says 2.4 anyway.

hth

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My assumption is that William is looking for an 8088ify executable application that has already been compiled from its C source code, that he can use to run his own 8080->8088 assembly code translations.... and not an example of an old DOS application (like dBase 2.4) that likely was developed by translating the CPM-80 version.

On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 4:23:38 PM UTC-8, Udo Munk wrote:
> sigma.r...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 21:55:32 UTC+1:
> > William Gallant here -
> >
> > Does anyone have an already compiled 8088ify executable which runs on MS-DOS?
> > Need one bad.
> dBase 2.41

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On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 8:08:44 PM UTC-5, higgin...@gmail.com wrote:
> My assumption is that William is looking for an 8088ify executable application that has already been compiled from its C source code, that he can use to run his own 8080->8088 assembly code translations.... and not an example of an old DOS application (like dBase 2.4) that likely was developed by translating the CPM-80 version.
> On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 4:23:38 PM UTC-8, Udo Munk wrote:
> > sigma.r...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. Dezember 2021 um 21:55:32 UTC+1:
> > > William Gallant here -
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an already compiled 8088ify executable which runs on MS-DOS?
> > > Need one bad.
> > dBase 2.41
I e-mailed Brian Callahan who wrote 8088ify and he gave me this github link -

https://github.com/ibara/8088ify/releases/tag/v1.2

The MS-DOS executable is located there.

-- Merry Christmas
-- William Gallant

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Thank you for posting that information! I discovered 8088ify a couple of months ago, but lost interest when I realized how difficult it would be for me to figure out how to compile it into an executable.

> I e-mailed Brian Callahan who wrote 8088ify and he gave me this github link -
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> https://github.com/ibara/8088ify/releases/tag/v1.2
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> The MS-DOS executable is located there.
>
> -- Merry Christmas
> -- William Gallant

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