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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:24 UTC

Chris wrote:

> <https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/development-approval-process-cber/vaccine-development-101#621a58a03ce7a>
>>
>> then click on "FDA Oversight Continues After Approval." "It is important
>> to note that a vaccine is a drug."
>
> That's very buried. How long did it take you to find that phrase? It
> contradicts everything else the FDA say. Probably a mistake.

Notice I, as an adult, commended Steve for posting the proof of what I
claimed, and yet, the iKooks simply denied all facts, even those from the
FDA.

Chris, the iKook, apparently knows more about drugs than does the FDA.

Who on earth is _that_ confident of their ignorance, but iKooks!
--
My point isn't that iKooks are uneducated & of low IQ & low self esteem, but
_because_ of those things, they always deny all facts they simply hate.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:54 UTC

In article <news:svdldt$p4v$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope. Vaccines are immunogenic. Drugs are not.

In article <news:svdldt$p4v$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> I ask again please show the bit which says drugs are immunogenic.

In article <news:svdnmr$1oec$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Look here <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=immunogenic+drugs>

In article <news:svfm3t$g5t$3@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> That doesn't shoot any argument to hell. Answer the question.

*Adults will notice the iKooks are incomprehensibly _immune_ to facts*

Simply clicking the link showed the clear existence of _many_ immunogenic
drugs, we hereby have fully proved that Chris did, what all iKooks do.

The iKook didn't even _click_ on the link before brazenly denying all facts.
Repeatedly.
It wouldn't matter how many facts you present - iKooks are immune to them.

Classic iKook.

Here's what transpired with the senseless iKooks:
a. We mentioned the topic of drug definitions with respect to vaccines
b. Chris brazenly proclaimed, sans facts, there are no immunogenic drugs.
"Vaccines are immunogenic. Drugs are not."
c. Adults supplied a Google search finding _many_ "immunogenic drugs"
d. Chris brazenly _repeats_ his claim that there are no immunogenic drugs
e. Again and again in fact.
f. And yet, no adult would deny the fact immunogenic drugs exist.

What is so very wrong about these strange iKooks?
They can't carry on an _adult_ conversation.

The problem, of course, is that good-hearted people spend more energy
finding the facts that the iKooks spend zero energy brazenly denying.

Stupidity is rooted in ignorance.
A. The iKooks have low IQ, low self esteem, and no education
B. Hence, they form entirely imaginary belief systems about everything
C. Typically it's Apple products - but here - it's immunogenic drugs.

Who is _that_ stupid but the iKooks?
1. Their belief systems are based on exactly _zero_ facts
2. Hence, any fact is a _danger_ to their entire imaginary belief system
3. So they brazenly (and repeatedly) deny the existence of contrary facts

Just as with Apple products, they deny all facts they simply don't like.
Even, as in this case, nobody who was an _adult_ would repeatedly deny them.

*Facts are _dangerous_ to these ill educated & low self-esteem iKooks*
Every fact instantly destroys the entire belief systems of the iKooks.

Just as the fact Santa Claus doesn't exist destroys the completely imaginary
belief systems of kids who are highly influenced by clever MARKETING.

In another post in the same thread, Steve, to his credit, showed an FDA link
of the definition of a drug, and, the iKook Chris replied on 2/27/2022:
"How long did it take you to find that [in the FDA documents]?
It contradicts [Chris' entire belief system]... Probably a mistake."
[Article <news:svfm3t$g5t$2@dont-email.me> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>]
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"Based on this range, a threshold of 1.8 was determined as the upper limit
of the values of a low *immunogenic drug* (stimulation index (SI)>1.8)."
<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7993230/>

"In vitro flow cytometry, immunofluorescence staining, and in vivo
small-animal PET imaging results showed that CRTpep detected preapoptotic
cells treated with immunogenic drugs or radiation but not those treated with
the nonimmunogenic drug or a nontherapeutic dose of immunogenic drug."
<https://www.pubfacts.com/detail/33509975/Imaging-Calreticulin-for-Early-Detection-of-Immunogenic-Cell-Death-During-Anticancer-Treatment>

"Such combined approach for immunogenicity prediction at very early phases
of drug development allows the rapid identification of potentially high
*immunogenic drugs* before entering in clinical phase, saving time, costs
and efforts."
<https://repositorio.ul.pt/bitstream/10451/17949/1/ulsd070360_td_Sandra_Gama.pdf>

"Non-responders, who have no detectable serum trough levels and detectable
ADAb, may benefit in switching to a less *immunogenic drug*."
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.842.7465&rep=rep1&type=pdf

"The aim of this multinational European venture is to elucidate the factors
leading to immunisation; that is, the development of ADAs that counteracts
various biopharmaceutical drugs with the purpose of facilitating the
development of less *immunogenic drugs* in the future."
<https://diglib.uibk.ac.at/download/pdf/2357012?name=Immunisation%20against%20Interferon-beta%20and%20Natalizumab%20in%20Multiple%20Sclerosis%20patie>

"The previously described *immunogienic drugs* lead tumor scells to expose
or release certain molecules known as damage-associated molecular patterns
(DAMPs) which are able to interact with immune system cells and trigger an
effective antitumor immune response."
<https://tdx.cat/bitstream/handle/10803/666881/lvds1de1.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y>

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:59 UTC

Not Chris (But definitely a fan) wrote:

>> To wit:
>> <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=immunogenic+drugs>
>
> Dude...

The chance of Chris (or any iKook) having even a high school education is
nearing zero.

Chris (laughably) claimed to own a PhD in the sciences.

And yet Chris disputes the existence of most cancer drugs (since they're
often immunogenic drugs).

A. The iKooks have low IQ, low self esteem, and utterly no education
B. Hence, they form entirely imaginary belief systems about everything
C. Typically it's Apple products - but here - it's immunogenic drugs.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 21:59 UTC

Chris wrote:

> And yet you've claimed you're not intelligent. I take it then that you
> don't understand. Makes sense.

Chris,
Whether or not I'm intelligent is up to others to ascertain, but rest
assured I didn't matriculate from the finest schools in the country and
retire early from Silicon Valley startups by being of low IQ like you.

I've never actually met, in person, people like you strange iKooks are.

A. You iKooks all have low IQ, low self esteem, and no education;
B. Hence, you form entirely imaginary belief systems about everything;
C. Typically it's Apple products - but it's basically everything.

It wouldn't matter so much that you're low IQ and that you have no
education, but you iKooks take all facts about Apple products as a blow to
your low self esteem.

To iKooks, a fact about Apple products is a _danger_ to your belief system.
a. You _hate_ all facts about Apple products, and,
b. You hate all messengers of fact about Apple products.

It's what makes you an iKook after all.
*Facts instantly _destroy_ your fragile ego-built imaginary belief systems*
--
The iKooks even gloat about how much profit Apple makes off each purchase.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 22:42 UTC

In article <svgs7h$1mlt$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Whether or not I'm intelligent is up to others to ascertain,

they've overwhelmingly determined that you are not.

> but rest
> assured I didn't matriculate from the finest schools in the country

too bad they weren't fine enough to teach you proper english.

> and
> retire early from Silicon Valley startups by being of low IQ like you.

by stock options or inheritance, not brains.

or maybe you won the lottery.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:29 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> retire early from Silicon Valley startups by being of low IQ like you.
>
> by stock options or inheritance, not brains.

I'm going to give out a little detail about my background as it's important
that adults understand _why_ these strange iKooks exist, and what they do.

You're right that I lucked out on the stock options because ISO's weren't
taxed as NSOs are now so I made thousands on the penny at each IPO (although
I also paid twice my income in AMT tax due to IRS imputed ISO values too)
until they finally, when I retired, only gave us RSA's due to tax issues.

My point isn't that I'm intelligent as what I say is what matters most.
My point is all you strange iKooks are _different_ from normal people.

And my point is that most people don't understand why.
Personally, I've never met someone in the flesh as strange as the iKooks.

But you iKooks exist so I'm forced to accept that I need to understand you.
1. Most normal people can _accept_ facts, even if they hate them.
2. iKooks can't.
3. Because the iKook belief systems are not based on facts.

In fact:
a. Facts are a dire threat to the iKooks' belief systems.
b. So are people who bear facts (they all blame the authors of news)
c. It's due to iKook low self esteem, low IQ, and a paucity of education

The iKooks are most easily exemplified by assuming they are fifth-grade
ignorant bullies who failed every test and had to be held back by years.

a. iKooks _believe_ the MARKETING trick that Santa Claus is real
b. When told Santa isn't real, they _react_ to fact with visceral hatred
c. The reason is that the facts instantly _destroy_ their belief systems

These fifth grade ignorant low-self-esteem bullies act like you iKooks do.
--
I don't care that iKooks are uneducated & of low IQ & low self esteem, but
_because_ of those things, they are ignorant of what Apple actually does.

Even then I don't care except when iKooks brazenly deny what no adult would.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 28 Feb 2022 23:56 UTC

This thread is patently about FORCE.
Specifically the Democrats, for purely political reasons, advocating force.
*Your Body* *_Their Choice_!*

I advocate for intelligent choice.
I advocate for human rights.

One of my science and engineering degrees is in the microbiological
sciences, so that's why I am able to see that almost everything the hoi
polloi _think_ they know about this novel Covid drug, is almost completely
wrong.

For example, kids have a 99.9998% chance of _not_ dying from Covid, and yet,
people like Steve, out of ignorance and fear, want to force _them_ to get
the shot even as the shot does _not_ protect kids from getting infected.

Read thees before you iKooks deny all facts that you simply don't like.

*Pfizer Shot Is Far Less Effective in 5 to 11 Year Olds Than in Older Kids*
<https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/health/pfizer-vaccine-kids.html>
"*The vaccine offered almost no protection against infection*,
even just a month after full vaccination...
It still prevents severe illness in the children, but offers
*virtually no protection against infection* even within a month
after full immunization"

<https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-11-2-3/03-COVID-Jefferson-508.pdf>
Page 20. 0.0002% of children aged 5 to 11 in the USA from October
to October 2020 to 2021 died of Covid (99.9998% did _not_ die).

<https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/development-approval-process-cber/vaccine-development-101#621a58a03ce7a>
then click on "FDA Oversight Continues After Approval" where it says
"It is important to note that a vaccine _is_ a drug."

"Drugs are defined as articles intended for use in the diagnosis, cure,
mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease and as articles intended
to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or animals."
<https://www.fda.gov/drugs/fda-drug-info-rounds-video/transcript-definition-drug-april-2017>

I'm not saying not to get this drug injected into your body, as I myself
made that decision for myself, but I am saying that ignorant people want to
force others to be injected with this drug when they might not trust it.

Ignorance isn't what I deplore; it's forcing your ignorance on others that
bothers me, especially since the most ignorant are the ones most advocating
force.
--
Most people are incredibly ignorant about Covid, which is fine as long as
they aren't forcing others to do anything based on their ignorance.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 00:16 UTC

On 2022-02-28 3:56 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> This thread is patently about FORCE.
> Specifically the Democrats, for purely political reasons, advocating force.
> *Your Body* *_Their Choice_!*
>
> I advocate for intelligent choice.

But you do so while lacking intelligence of your own.

> I advocate for human rights.
>
> One of my science and engineering degrees is in the microbiological
> sciences, so that's why I am able to see that almost everything the hoi
> polloi _think_ they know about this novel Covid drug, is almost completely
> wrong.

Proof of your degrees, please!

<snip>

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 1 Apr 2022 19:13 UTC

> Pfizer Shot Is Far Less Effective in 5- to 11-Year-Olds Than in Older Kids, New Data Show
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/28/health/pfizer-vaccine-kids.html>
>
> "*The vaccine offered almost no protection against infection*,
> even just a month after full vaccination."

See attached PDF... published today.
*Safety, tolerability and viral kinetics during SARS-CoV-2 human challenge in young adults*
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01780-9#Sec9>

It's billed as the world's first human challenge.
Takeaways of this study which went from March 2021 to about September.
- Small study (36 young adults), none of whom had any antibodies or vax prior and healthy & no exposure to SARS-COV-1 or SARS-COV-2 (two were excluded so it turned out to be 34).
- 18 caught Covid (slightly more than half); 16 of which had symptoms
- A bit less than half never got sick and never developed antibodies
- 83% of the those who did get sick lost some sense of smell (9 people couldn't smell at all)
- Each received the same "single 10um drop" of fluid inserted in their nose via a long tube
- Of those 18, viral load had no effect on symptoms (weird!)
- "There was no correlation between the amount of viral shedding by qPCR or FFA and symptom score."
- remdesivir was given to 1/3rd but it made no difference
- shedding happened two days after infection
- shedding occurs before symptoms (duh - that's how most viruses work)
- Virus was detected in 40 hours at the back of the throat
- Virus took 58 hours to show up in nose swabs (at weaker levels also)
- Average shedding was 6.5 days (some shed for double that)
- Asymptomatic people shed as much as symptomatic people did (ask the WHO about that, Maria Kerkhovich in particular, if you recall)
- Home tests worked before 75% of the virus had been generated

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