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From: club...@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)
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Subject: Old storage technologies
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by: Simon Clubley - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 17:46 UTC

On 2023-09-18, bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 9-track drive.

Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Any DECtape or paper tape readers
lying around ? :-)

Simon.

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by: bill - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 19:11 UTC

On 9/19/2023 1:46 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-09-18, bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a 9-track drive.
>
> Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Any DECtape or paper tape readers
> lying around ? :-)
>

Nope. All my DECtape went with my PDP-11/44s when I donated them.

And I haven't had paper tape since I got rid of my Lorenz LO-15 about
40 years ago.

bill

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From: mcgu...@lssmuseum.org (Dave McGuire)
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by: Dave McGuire - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 01:36 UTC

On 9/19/23 13:46, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> I have a 9-track drive.
>
> Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Any DECtape or paper tape readers
> lying around ? :-)

We have several DECtape drives (TU56) on PDP-8 and PDP-11 systems at
LSSM, paper tape too. All up and running!

-Dave

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Large Scale Systems Museum
New Kensington, PA

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by: bill - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 01:59 UTC

On 9/24/2023 9:36 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On 9/19/23 13:46, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> I have a 9-track drive.
>>
>> Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Any DECtape or paper tape readers
>> lying around ? :-)
>
> We have several DECtape drives (TU56) on PDP-8 and PDP-11 systems at
> LSSM, paper tape too. All up and running!
>

Did I give you all or some of my 11/44's? They all had DECtape II
(TU58) drives.

bill

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by: Dave McGuire - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 14:37 UTC

On 9/24/23 21:59, bill wrote:
>>>> I have a 9-track drive.
>>>
>>> Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Any DECtape or paper tape readers
>>> lying around ? :-)
>>
>> We have several DECtape drives (TU56) on PDP-8 and PDP-11 systems
>> at LSSM, paper tape too. All up and running!
>>
>
> Did I give you all or some of my 11/44's? They all had DECtape II
> (TU58) drives.

Yes, we have them. The TU58 drives are basically unusable now,
unfortunately. First, the rollers turn to goo...that's easily
repairable, but now the tapes themselves have problems, due to the
internal drive belts (within the tape cartridges) failing. It's very
unfortunate.

The TU56 drives and tapes, though, with minor maintenance, work fine.

-Dave

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Large Scale Systems Museum
New Kensington, PA

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by: John Reagan - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 01:04 UTC

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 10:37:25 AM UTC-4, Dave McGuire wrote:
> On 9/24/23 21:59, bill wrote:
> >>>> I have a 9-track drive.
> >>>
> >>> Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. Any DECtape or paper tape readers
> >>> lying around ? :-)
> >>
> >> We have several DECtape drives (TU56) on PDP-8 and PDP-11 systems
> >> at LSSM, paper tape too. All up and running!
> >>
> >
> > Did I give you all or some of my 11/44's? They all had DECtape II
> > (TU58) drives.
> Yes, we have them. The TU58 drives are basically unusable now,
> unfortunately. First, the rollers turn to goo...that's easily
> repairable, but now the tapes themselves have problems, due to the
> internal drive belts (within the tape cartridges) failing. It's very
> unfortunate.
>
> The TU56 drives and tapes, though, with minor maintenance, work fine.
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire, President/Curator
> Large Scale Systems Museum
> New Kensington, PA
I have some TU58s still in their shrinkwrap. Are they still good?

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by: Dave McGuire - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 16:46 UTC

On 9/25/23 21:04, John Reagan wrote:
>> Yes, we have them. The TU58 drives are basically unusable now,
>> unfortunately. First, the rollers turn to goo...that's easily
>> repairable, but now the tapes themselves have problems, due to the
>> internal drive belts (within the tape cartridges) failing. It's very
>> unfortunate.
>>
>> The TU56 drives and tapes, though, with minor maintenance, work fine.
>
> I have some TU58s still in their shrinkwrap. Are they still good?

It's possible, but I wouldn't count on it.

-Dave

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Large Scale Systems Museum
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Subject	Author
Old storage technologies	Simon Clubley
Re: Old storage technologies	bill
Re: Old storage technologies	Dave McGuire
Re: Old storage technologies	bill
Re: Old storage technologies	Dave McGuire
Re: Old storage technologies	John Reagan
Re: Old storage technologies	Dave McGuire