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* 3151 Terminal PCB images ?Louis Ohland
+- Re: 3151 Terminal PCB images ?IBMMuseum
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 `* Re: 3151 Terminal PCB images ?Louis Ohland
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  `* Re: 3151 Terminal PCB images ?moussa
   `* Re: 3151 Terminal PCB images ?moussa
    `* Re: 3151 Terminal PCB images ?Louis Ohland
     +- Re: 3151 Terminal PCB images ?Tomas Slavotinek
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 by: Louis Ohland - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 20:11 UTC

Do we have any 3151 PCB images?

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> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?

Not that I am aware of - I have one unit and can possibly get some filthy images.

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 by: moussa - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 23:57 UTC

On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?

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 by: Louis Ohland - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:00 UTC

Way To the Future?

Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at the
lower right? Via chips?

22194517 ?

moussa wrote:
> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>

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 by: Louis Ohland - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:03 UTC

Look at the upper right, Silicon Graphics. I don't know enough to even
guess if this is a 3151, or which model, or if this a special mojo unit.
Possumble it's all of them. Or none of them.

Louis Ohland wrote:
> Way To the Future?
>
> Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at the
> lower right? Via chips?
>
> 22194517 ?
>
> moussa wrote:
>> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>>

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 by: IBMMuseum - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:46 UTC

> Look at the upper right, Silicon Graphics. I don't know enough to
> even guess if this is a 3151, or which model, or if this a special
> mojo unit. Possumble it's all of them. Or none of them.

The ports don't match up - there is both a 25-pin parallel and serial port (plus the personality cartridge slot). I've got the back of the unit shown at this timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Af11nO4H0&t=1294s

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....and, of course: https://www.ardent-tool.com/3151/#Com_Ports

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 by: Kevin Bowling - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:35 UTC

On 1/19/23 05:03, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Look at the upper right, Silicon Graphics. I don't know enough to even
> guess if this is a 3151, or which model, or if this a special mojo unit.
> Possumble it's all of them. Or none of them.

Yeah the linked picture is an SGI Indy XL-8 graphics card.

> Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Way To the Future?
>>
>> Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at the
>> lower right? Via chips?
>>
>> 22194517 ?
>>
>> moussa wrote:
>>> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>>>

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 by: moussa - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:44 UTC

On 19/1/23 20:00, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Way To the Future?
>
> Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at the
> lower right? Via chips?
>
> 22194517 ?
>
> moussa wrote:
>> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>>
not sure why it was titled IBM 3151 terminal
as i have never seen one before, i guess I got fooled??

good one searx!

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 by: moussa - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 09:47 UTC

On 20/1/23 17:44, moussa wrote:
> On 19/1/23 20:00, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Way To the Future?
>>
>> Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at the
>> lower right? Via chips?
>>
>> 22194517 ?
>>
>> moussa wrote:
>>> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>>>
> not sure why it was titled IBM 3151 terminal
> as i have never seen one before, i guess I got fooled??
>
> good one searx!
>
http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/3151/pictures/

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 by: Louis Ohland - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:13 UTC

Exactly. I have looked at this before, but old age and CRS are against me.

moussa wrote:
> On 20/1/23 17:44, moussa wrote:
>> On 19/1/23 20:00, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Way To the Future?
>>>
>>> Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at
>>> the lower right? Via chips?
>>>
>>> 22194517 ?
>>>
>>> moussa wrote:
>>>> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>>>>
>> not sure why it was titled IBM 3151 terminal
>> as i have never seen one before, i guess I got fooled??
>>
>> good one searx!
>>
> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/3151/pictures/
>

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Fri, 20 Jan 2023 19:39 UTC

On 20.01.2023 13:13, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Exactly. I have looked at this before, but old age and CRS are against me.

Can't really blame you. The 3151 is such a crappy design, I'm trying to
suppress my memory of it too...

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 by: moussa - Sat, 21 Jan 2023 00:07 UTC

On 20/1/23 20:13, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Exactly. I have looked at this before, but old age and CRS are against me.
>
> moussa wrote:
>> On 20/1/23 17:44, moussa wrote:
>>> On 19/1/23 20:00, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> Way To the Future?
>>>>
>>>> Nice big hulking heatsinks. LSI chips. Is that a PS/2 connector at
>>>> the lower right? Via chips?
>>>>
>>>> 22194517 ?
>>>>
>>>> moussa wrote:
>>>>> On 19/1/23 04:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>>>> Do we have any 3151 PCB images?
>>>>>
>>> not sure why it was titled IBM 3151 terminal
>>> as i have never seen one before, i guess I got fooled??
>>>
>>> good one searx!
>>>
>> http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/ibm/3151/pictures/
>>
Louis, it will get better soon, but you know I am a big liar

back pain, HBP, severe sleep apnoea, glaucoma ...etc etc..
and let us not forget PTSD <---I was the child on the other side of the
equation.

now back to our 3151.

If you trace from the corner to the right of the PCB where the fly-back
(HVT) reside that would be the monitor section, to the left is the power
supply section, toward the back slightly past the middle is the CPU
(Zilog-Z80) section, is a 3 PCB in one.

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Sat, 21 Jan 2023 06:29 UTC

On 21.01.2023 1:07, moussa wrote:
> is a 3 PCB in one

That's the part I hate about it. The InfoWindow terminals have a
separate logic PCB/module and in general a more robust construction. But
the 3151 was a single-purpose device and was significantly cheaper, so
it's not surprising really.

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