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Subject: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
From: Andy Burnelli
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More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week here:
 *Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly throttle
it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count as best in
anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_ in class CPU).


  "Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"   "Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
   numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD    but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match    those claims."

  "The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny compared
   to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is nearly
   3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

  "Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance    at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while    sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show    such performance claims."

  "The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their    performance numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."
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Remember nobody in the world has ever independently reproduced Apple's huge
lies on battery life claims either - as Apple only tells the truth in court.


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
From: John
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On 3/19/22 8:51 AM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week here:
*Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
���*Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite Apple's Charts*
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly throttle
it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count as best in
anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_ in class CPU).

*Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra* ���https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/  "Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"
  "Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
   numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD    but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match   those claims."

  "The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny compared
   to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is nearly
   3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

  "Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance   at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while   sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show   such performance claims."

  "The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and   AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their   performance numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."



My M1 Ultra Mac Studio is running fast as hell.  Never used anything faster in my life.  Ever.   What a dream to use, and without annoying obnoxious loud fans like the PC crap has.


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
From: Alan
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On 2022-03-19 8:51 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

How is this "more".

It's precisely what you've already posted?


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
From: Alan pointing out Ar
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On 2022-03-19 8:51 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week here:
*Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
���*Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite Apple's Charts*
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly throttle
it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count as best in
anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_ in class CPU).

*Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra* ���https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/

This comment sums it up well:

'You're comparing a SOC to a CPU... and the power draw for the SOC would include GPU, RAM, CPU. So your whole premise and feedback on this hardware is poorly contemplated.'


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
From: kantraa
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Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:51:18 +0000, Andy Burnelli wrote:

More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test
results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week
here:
 *Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
í° *Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite
Apple's Charts*
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class
CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly
throttle it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count
as best in anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_
in class CPU).

 *Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra*
í° https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-
amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/>
  "Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"

  "Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
   numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD
   but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match
   those claims."

  "The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny
  compared
   to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is
   nearly 3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

  "Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance
   at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while
   sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show
   such performance claims."

  "The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and
   AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their performance
   numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."

Whaat?!

I was genuinely thinking of buying a Macbook Pro solely because of the M1
chip because I always heard on Fireship and other channels that it was
extremely good.

But nope.





--
Clorox is my favorite drink.


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On 4/18/2022 8:16 AM, kantraa wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:51:18 +0000, Andy Burnelli wrote:

More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test
results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week
here:
  *Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
  https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
í° *Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite
Apple's Charts*
  https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class
CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly
throttle it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count
as best in anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_
in class CPU).

  *Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra*
í° https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-
amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/>
   "Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"

   "Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
    numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD
    but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match
    those claims."

   "The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny
   compared
    to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is
    nearly 3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

   "Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance
    at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while
    sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show
    such performance claims."

   "The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and
    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their performance
    numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."

Whaat?!

I was genuinely thinking of buying a Macbook Pro solely because of the M1
chip because I always heard on Fireship and other channels that it was
extremely good.

But nope.

I think that what Apple was claiming, correctly, was the the M1 Ultra performance per watt was better.

Obviously a Core i7, Core i9, or Ryzen 9, paired with a high-end GPU from Nvidia or AMD, is going to outperform an M1 Ultra, but at significantly higher power. If you're a gamer, or running applications like Altium or Solidworks, on a workstation, you're not going to care about performance per watt (besides the fact that you can't run those apps on a Mac, even an Intel-based Mac).


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
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On 2022-04-18 8:16 a.m., kantraa wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:51:18 +0000, Andy Burnelli wrote:

More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test
results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week
here:
  *Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
  https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
í° *Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite
Apple's Charts*
  https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class
CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly
throttle it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count
as best in anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_
in class CPU).

  *Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra*
í° https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-
amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/>
   "Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"

   "Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
    numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD
    but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match
    those claims."

   "The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny
   compared
    to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is
    nearly 3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

   "Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance
    at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while
    sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show
    such performance claims."

   "The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and
    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their performance
    numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."

Whaat?!

I was genuinely thinking of buying a Macbook Pro solely because of the M1
chip because I always heard on Fireship and other channels that it was
extremely good.

But nope.

I wouldn't pay much attention to what Arlen says...

He dishonestly compares the physical size of the M1 Ultra to an AMD Ryzen 3 chip...

(All the while never mentioning that the M1 Ultra includes both RAM and a GPU:

'But there are reasons why this chip is so huge, you see not only is the M1 Ultra an MCM chip that fuses two M1 Max dies together but it also has a huge 64-core GPU, all the IO & even the memory on the same package')

....while comparing the speed to a Ryzen 9.


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
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On 2022-04-18 17:18:44 +0000, Alan said:
On 2022-04-18 8:16 a.m., kantraa wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:51:18 +0000, Andy Burnelli wrote:

More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test
results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week
here:
*Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
í° *Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite
Apple's Charts*
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class
CPU. (and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly
throttle it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count
as best in anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_
in class CPU).

*Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra*
í° https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-
amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/>
"Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"

"Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD
but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match
those claims."

"The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny
compared
to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is
nearly 3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

"Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance
at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while
sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show
such performance claims."

"The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their performance
numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."

Whaat?!

I was genuinely thinking of buying a Macbook Pro solely because of the M1
chip because I always heard on Fireship and other channels that it was
extremely good.

But nope.

I wouldn't pay much attention to what Arlen says...
<snip>

Nobody should ever pay *ANY* attention to what the braindead know-nothing anti-Apple troll "Arlen" (and other posting names he uses to get around killfiles) ... he's a complete moron! If everyone simply ignored the idiot he'd get bored and go away.  :-\




Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
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On 18 Apr 2022, Your Name wrote
(in article <t3khrd$1fo4$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

On 2022-04-18 17:18:44 +0000, Alan said:
On 2022-04-18 8:16 a.m., kantraa wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:51:18 +0000, Andy Burnelli wrote:

More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test
results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week
here:
*Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
í°*Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite
Apple's Charts*
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class
CPU. (and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly
throttle it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count
as best in anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_
in class CPU).

*Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel &  AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra*
í°https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-
amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/>
"Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"

"Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel& AMD
but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match
those claims."

"The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny
compared
to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is
nearly 3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

"Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance
at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while
sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show
such performance claims."

"The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their performance
numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."

Whaat?!

I was genuinely thinking of buying a Macbook Pro solely because of the M1
chip because I always heard on Fireship and other channels that it was
extremely good.

But nope.

I wouldn't pay much attention to what Arlen says...
<snip>

Nobody should ever pay *ANY* attention to what the braindead
know-nothing anti-Apple troll "Arlen" (and other posting names he uses
to get around killfiles) ... he's a complete moron! If everyone simply
ignored the idiot he'd get bored and go away. :-\

Unfortunately, tat’s not correct. He’d change nyms, again and again and
again, and keep posting. He’s done it before. Apparently it’s the
‘adult’ thing to do when everyone ignores you.



Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
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In message <0001HW.28103088036A3D9170000FA1238F@news.supernews.com> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 18 Apr 2022, Your Name wrote

Nobody should ever pay *ANY* attention to what the braindead
know-nothing anti-Apple troll "Arlen" (and other posting names he uses
to get around killfiles) ... he's a complete moron! If everyone simply
ignored the idiot he'd get bored and go away. :-\

Unfortunately, tat’s not correct. He’d change nyms, again and again and
again, and keep posting. He’s done it before. Apparently it’s the
‘adult’ thing to do when everyone ignores you.

The screaming tantrum of a spoiled toddler, "Why aren't you paying
attention to me!"

S/He/it is so pathetic, it would be sad if s/he/it wasn't constantly
shitting on the furniture.


--
Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies.


Subject: Re: More Apple lies - this time Apple outright "fabricated" its M1 CPU performance propaganda
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On 20 Apr 2022, Lewis wrote
(in article <slrnt603h0.28ks.g.kreme@zephyrus.local>):

In message<0001HW.28103088036A3D9170000FA1238F@news.supernews.com> Wolffan
<akwolffan@zoho.com>  wrote:
On 18 Apr 2022, Your Name wrote

Nobody should ever pay *ANY* attention to what the braindead
know-nothing anti-Apple troll "Arlen" (and other posting names he uses
to get around killfiles) ... he's a complete moron! If everyone simply
ignored the idiot he'd get bored and go away. :-\

Unfortunately, tat’s not correct. He’d change nyms, again and again and
again, and keep posting. He’s done it before. Apparently it’s the
‘adult’ thing to do when everyone ignores you.

The screaming tantrum of a spoiled toddler, "Why aren't you paying
attention to me!"

S/He/it is so pathetic, it would be sad if s/he/it wasn't constantly
shitting on the furniture.

He isn’t the worst nym-shifter that I’ve ever seen. Carl Crawford once
had 11 different nyms in 36 hours. If that’s not the record, it should be.

Carl was a creationist, in talk.origins, years back, he’s stopped posting
but is still remembered, alongside legends of creationist thought such as Ted
‘Flying Feral Chicken’ Holden and the immortal Peter ‘der Gross’
Nyklios. (Petey still posts to t.o.) Among Carl's other claims to fame were
that he:

1 located the Ark. It was perfectly preserved by being coated in lava. On the
top of a mountain which is NOT a volcano. Apparently the Ark was made of very
special wood which wouldn’t burn when exposed to molten rock.

2 found chariot wheels from Pharaoh’s Army in the Red Sea. At 400 feet
depth, free-diving using ‘ordinary scuba gear’. They had to be wheels
from Pharaoh’s Army, only the army was allowed to have wheels with five
spokes. Yes, really.

3 discovered that woodpecker’s tongues are anchored in their left nostril.
He discovered this without dissecting even one bird. Anyone who said anything
contradicting him was obviously lying, any pix of dissected birds indicating
otherwise were obviously faked.

Carl was funny. Arlen isn’t. Both are insane.



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On 2022-04-18 8:16 a.m., kantraa wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 15:51:18 +0000, Andy Burnelli wrote:

More Apple lies: Apple only tells the truth in court.

The news reports say Apple _fabricated_ (their word!) M1 CPU test
results!

This is another related offshoot of Apple propaganda posted this week
here:
  *Apple continues to lead in CPUs* (which turns out to be a brazen lie)
  https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/lZ_75avMuvo

And the proof that Apple lied about the M1 Ultra GPU performance:
í° *Apple lied: M1 Ultra Doesn't Beat Out Nvidia's RTX 3090 GPU Despite
Apple's Charts*
  https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.mac.system/c/iNVHwPPBjSA

The educated fact remains Apple has _never_ designed a best-in-class
CPU.
(and no, a CPU that is so unstable Apple is _desperate_ to secretly
throttle it and then secretly backdate the release notes doesn't count
as best in anything - in fact that's clearly yet another Apple _worst_
in class CPU).

  *Benchmarks Show Desktop Intel & AMD CPUs Still Ahead of M1 Ultra*
í° https://wccftech.com/apple-m1-ultra-chip-is-nearly-3-times-bigger-
amd-ryzen-cpus-benchmarks-show-intel-amd-cpus-still-ahead/>
   "Apple M1 Ultra Chip Is Nearly 3 Times Bigger Than AMD's Ryzen CPUs"

   "Just like its tall GPU performance claims, the chip maker claimed big
    numbers for its newest chip against desktop options from Intel & AMD
    but independent tests show that Apple is once again unable to match
    those claims."

   "The chip was also compared to an AMD Ryzen CPU which looks tiny
   compared
    to the M1 Ultra. Based on the size and dimensions, the M1 Ultra is
    nearly 3 times the size of the AMD Ryzen chip."

   "Apple claimed that their new chip offered 90% better performance
    at the same power and higher performance than the 12900K while
    sipping in 100 Watts lower power, the benchmarks below don't show
    such performance claims."

   "The M1 Ultra barely competes with the Intel Core i9-12900K and
    AMD Ryzen 9 5950X. It is highly likely that as with their performance
    numbers, the M1 power numbers have also been fabricated."

Whaat?!

I was genuinely thinking of buying a Macbook Pro solely because of the M1
chip because I always heard on Fireship and other channels that it was
extremely good.

But nope.

I wouldn't pay much attention to what Arlen says...

He dishonestly compares the physical size of the M1 Ultra to an AMD Ryzen 3 chip...

(All the while never mentioning that the M1 Ultra includes both RAM and a GPU:

'But there are reasons why this chip is so huge, you see not only is the M1 Ultra an MCM chip that fuses two M1 Max dies together but it also has a huge 64-core GPU, all the IO & even the memory on the same package')

....while comparing the speed to a Ryzen 9.

Then the actual benchmarks show


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