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* forwarding text messages to an email address?The Real Bev
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+* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?Roger Mills
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| ||  |     `- Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?VanguardLH
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| |`* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?The Real Bev
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| |  +- Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?nospam
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| |  `* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?Frank Slootweg
| |   `* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?sms
| |    +- Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?nospam
| |    `* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?Frank Slootweg
| |     `* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?sms
| |      +- Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?nospam
| |      `- Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?Joerg Lorenz
| `* Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?Frank Slootweg
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From: bashley...@gmail.com (The Real Bev)
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Subject: Re: forwarding text messages to an email address?
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 by: The Real Bev - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:49 UTC

On 04/24/2022 05:39 AM, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 23/04/2022 23:40, The Real Bev wrote:
>> There seems to be no way to do it with the Pixel2. I wish people would
>> send actual email instead of text messages, but that's probably not
>> going to happen. I want to KEEP the text in the message on my computer,
>> but I see no way to forward it to my email address. I can always type
>> it, of course, but that just seems WRONG.
>>
>
> No need for any re-typing! My method isn't automatic, but it just might
> work for you.
>
> I pair my (Android) phone with my (Windows) computer, which allows me to
> send and receive texts from the computer. [It's far easier to type them
> on a computer keyboard]
>
> So all text messages end up on my screen. When I wish to save one on my
> computer I simply copy and paste the text into an email and send it to
> myself.
>
> Might be a pain to do it for *every* text, but for the occasional one it
> works fine.

Linux probably has a similar function. I'll look for it... soon... one
of these days...

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Cheers, Bev
I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand.

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From: hugyb...@gmx.ch (Joerg Lorenz)
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 by: Joerg Lorenz - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:50 UTC

Am 24.04.22 um 18:12 schrieb Mayayana:
> "sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
>
> | In the U.S., most of the people that still have landlines have migrated
> | them to a VOIP service, either from their broadband provider
>
> Either way, my landline phone is just a phone. There's
> no screen to show a text. And anyway, I'm talking about how
> to avoid texts, not how to get them. :)

Given your attitude I really wonder why you write in technical groups
and what the added value of your outdated postings could be.

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De gustibus non est disputandum

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From: bashley...@gmail.com (The Real Bev)
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 by: The Real Bev - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:51 UTC

On 04/24/2022 07:27 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 24.04.22 um 13:47 schrieb Mayayana:
>> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> | There seems to be no way to do it with the Pixel2. I wish people would
>> | send actual email instead of text messages, but that's probably not
>> | going to happen.
>>
>> Not exactly the answer you're looking for, but I
>> just tell people that if they text me I'll never see it,
>> because the number they're calling is a landline. :)
>> You could also just tell people that you don't text.
>
> That is simply outdated. Today's IP-telephony allows SMS. I can do it
> almost 10 years now.

I can send texts via email from my computer to nnnnnnnnnn@vtext.com or
whatever the proper domain is, but you have to KNOW the proper domain.
More trouble than it's worth.

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Cheers, Bev
I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand.

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 by: The Real Bev - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:57 UTC

On 04/24/2022 08:12 AM, sms wrote:
> On 4/24/2022 4:47 AM, Mayayana wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I've noticed that lately people just assume all
>> phones are cellphones and that all cellphones are
>> constantly in use. And now they're not even getting
>> error messages to tell them they're trying to text
>> a landline. But like a dog trying to fuck a cat, they'll
>> figure it out eventually without my help.
>
> In the U.S., most of the people that still have landlines have migrated
> them to a VOIP service, either from their broadband provider, from a
> company like Ooma, MagicJack, or using a Polycom Obi SIP adapter with
> Google Voice. SMS works on most of these. Unfortunately, Ooma does not
> support SMS for residential accounts, only for business accounts.

Ah. that explains a lot. Perhaps they offer it with the upgraded plan,
but I don't need it that much.

> For example "Now included with its Xfinity Voice Unlimited Nationwide'
> plan, customers can enjoy free text messaging from the Xfinity Mobile
> app for Apple® and Android™-powered smartphones, iPads® and iPod touch®
> devices, as well as the ability to receive transcribed voicemail
> messages that can be read instantly." This is from 2012. Magicjack
> launched SMS in 2015.
>
> It's not difficult to do SMS forwarding on Android, there are multiple
> apps, both on Google Play and on F-Droid. Forward to a Google Voice
> number and the SMS can be read in e-mail.

I'll look for an app. just in case.

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I've enjoyed just about as much of this as I can stand.

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 by: sms - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:01 UTC

On 4/24/2022 9:12 AM, Mayayana wrote:
> "sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote
>
> | In the U.S., most of the people that still have landlines have migrated
> | them to a VOIP service, either from their broadband provider
>
> Either way, my landline phone is just a phone. There's
> no screen to show a text. And anyway, I'm talking about how
> to avoid texts, not how to get them. :)

True, the SMS for those VOIP providers are viewed (and sent) via a smart
phone app or web site.

I guess if someone really wanted to use SMS with their VOIP landline
replacement then instead of using a SIP adapter with analog phones they
could use the service with some unactivated smart phones over Wi-Fi. It
would not be much different than cordless handsets but using Wi-Fi
instead of 900 MHz or 2.4 GHz.

Probably I'd get some inexpensive Android phones with wireless charging
if I went this route. For $60 you can get such a phone. It'll be locked
to a prepaid carrier but it makes no difference if the phone is just
being used over Wi-Fi.

Google Voice gets you all this for no monthly cost but if you also want
analog phones then you have to buy the soon-to-be-discontinued Polycom
Obi. MagicJack charges $43 per year or $109 for three years, with the
first year, with a SIP adapter, for $49.99. Ooma seems to be no longer
interested in the residential market and doesn't offer SMS.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:25 UTC

In article <t43tag$eal$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > Yes, but try and persuade most banks and other institutions of that,
> > no chance!
>
> I've only found a couple of banks and credit unions that refuse to do
> SMS to VOIP and they usually have a workaround.

they don't care, nor do they even know unless they specifically check
what type of number it is, which the frontline people don't do (and
likely can't do).

sometimes it doesn't work, but they have alternatives.

> Yesterday I was adding a credit card to Google Pay and for some reason
> this one bank makes it extremely difficult to set up Google Pay or
> Android Pay with their card. Perhaps they don't want you to actually use
> mobile wallet because they give 3% cash back on mobile wallet charges.

or perhaps they have strict anti-fraud measures.

if they didn't want people to get the 3% rewards, they end it or limit
it, which is going to happen since 3% cash back is not sustainable.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 17:25 UTC

In article <t43sss$b0l$1@dont-email.me>, Mayayana
<mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>
> Either way, my landline phone is just a phone. There's
> no screen to show a text.

that's why it reads them to you in a synthesized voice.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 18:02 UTC

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> There seems to be no way to do it with the Pixel2. I wish people would
> send actual email instead of text messages, but that's probably not
> going to happen. I want to KEEP the text in the message on my computer,
> but I see no way to forward it to my email address. I can always type
> it, of course, but that just seems WRONG.

I think you've missed the method which nospam mentioned, which is to
long press the SMS message [1], choose 'Share' and choose 'Gmail' (or
whatever email app you use) [2].

[1] *Please* don't say "text messages" when you mean SMS messages. Most
messages are "text messages", so saying that is ambiguous/meaningless.

[2] Of course this depends on *which* 'Messages' app you use - i.e.
there's no such thing as "the [Android] 'Messages' app" -, but the
method works for whichever 'Messages' app was used in nospam's example
and for the Samsung 'Messages' app on my Samsung Galaxy A51 smartphone.

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 by: The Real Bev - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 19:54 UTC

On 04/24/2022 11:02 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There seems to be no way to do it with the Pixel2. I wish people would
>> send actual email instead of text messages, but that's probably not
>> going to happen. I want to KEEP the text in the message on my computer,
>> but I see no way to forward it to my email address. I can always type
>> it, of course, but that just seems WRONG.
>
> I think you've missed the method which nospam mentioned, which is to
> long press the SMS message [1], choose 'Share' and choose 'Gmail' (or
> whatever email app you use) [2].

Doesn't exist. Only shows phone numbers. No apps or even a box to
insert something -- just choose from what's shown, all of which is wrong.

I downloaded a couple of sms-to-email apps and deleted them. NOT
willing to tap 4 or 5 times to kill a multi-layer ad before I do what I
want to do.

> [1] *Please* don't say "text messages" when you mean SMS messages. Most
> messages are "text messages", so saying that is ambiguous/meaningless.

OK, but since what we mean is the result of "text me" requests, there's
built-in ambiguity. I had no idea what SMS stands for until I looked it
up just now. I'm sorry to say that I assume that people who send SMS by
choice are technologically unsophisticated (or just dumb) -- you can't
really express anything complex with your thumbs. I think I'm more
right than wrong here.

> [2] Of course this depends on *which* 'Messages' app you use - i.e.
> there's no such thing as "the [Android] 'Messages' app" -, but the
> method works for whichever 'Messages' app was used in nospam's example
> and for the Samsung 'Messages' app on my Samsung Galaxy A51 smartphone.

I use whatever the Pixel2 provided. Blue thing that looks like a
squarish text bubble. I use hangouts to communicate with certain
people; supposedly that's going to switch to google chat at some time
in the near future, but the 'chat' thing sucks pretty badly. It's
REALLY hard to read messages where the line length is the width of the
computer screen rather than something a single column wide.

Amazingly enough, text that's broken into columns uses less paper than
the same text in a single column. I didn't believe it until I tested it
with Libre Office.

--
Cheers, Bev
This is Usenet. We *are* the trained body for dealing
with psychotics. -- A. Dingley

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 by: sms - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 20:17 UTC

On 4/24/2022 12:54 PM, The Real Bev wrote:

<snip>

> OK, but since what we mean is the result of "text me" requests, there's
> built-in ambiguity.  I had no idea what SMS stands for until I looked it
> up just now.  I'm sorry to say that I assume that people who send SMS by
> choice are technologically unsophisticated (or just dumb) -- you can't
> really express anything complex with your thumbs.  I think I'm more
> right than wrong here.

No, you're more wrong than right. SMS is not intended to express
anything complex. It's used for things like sending someone an address,
notifying them that you're waiting for them somewhere, or telling them
to pick up something at the store.

What is true is that SMS is not the optimal message service in most
cases, it's the only one that works on all activated phones and that
doesn't require some extra app, and that doesn't use data. Signal,
WhatsApp, iMessage, RCS, are all better but not universal.

And of course you don't just have to use your fingers. You can compose
SMS on a computer and send them using an eMail to SMS gateway, or you
can use Google Voice to send SMS. On a smart phone, one that supports a
stylus is better for composing messages.

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 by: AJL - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 20:40 UTC

On 4/24/2022 1:17 PM, sms wrote:

> SMS is not intended to express anything complex. It's used for things
> like sending someone an address, notifying them that you're waiting
> for them somewhere, or telling them to pick up something at the
> store.

Some businesses here use it too. My mechanic advises by text when the
car is ready to be picked up. Likewise my doctor and dentist offices
send appointment reminders that I can confirm by a return text. Easy
peasy...

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 by: Mayayana - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:07 UTC

"sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote

| Probably I'd get some inexpensive Android phones with wireless charging
| if I went this route. For $60 you can get such a phone. It'll be locked
| to a prepaid carrier but it makes no difference if the phone is just
| being used over Wi-Fi.
|

Yes, but.... I'm trying to avoid texting, not enable it. :)
I guess some people just can't imagine that possibility.

I really, really, really don't want anyone to be able to
text me.

I actually find that some commercial entities can send me
a verification code to the landline. For example, my bank can
do it via a call that gives me the numbers via computerized
voice. Others are happy sending me an email code. But some
can't distinguish landline from cellphone and don't deal with
email. I ran into that recently when I decided to buy some
crypto. I needed a cellphone to get a verification code text
message. Pain in the ass. Now I'm a person who doesn't
use cellphones, but I have two. One at home for crypto codes
and one in my car in case I want to make a call. But they
bost cost only $20 every 3 months for minutes... What a crazy,
tech-addicted culture we've created.

| Google Voice gets you all this

Google voice?! I block all the Google domains in my
HOSTS file. I don't use Google anything. I'm certainly
not going to go to them for phone service.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:11 UTC

In article <t44e6v$lhr$1@dont-email.me>, Mayayana
<mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>
> Google voice?! I block all the Google domains in my
> HOSTS file. I don't use Google anything. I'm certainly
> not going to go to them for phone service.

that will cause captchas for many web sites to fail, since those are
often served from google properties, to help tune their scene
recognition algorithms as well as character recognition.

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 by: Mayayana - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 21:15 UTC

"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote

| I can send texts via email from my computer to nnnnnnnnnn@vtext.com or
| whatever the proper domain is, but you have to KNOW the proper domain.
| More trouble than it's worth.
|

Yes. And then they can't write back. Though I sent one
awhile back to my techie niece, just to surprise her.

I find
it really does take deliberate effort to avoid the madness.
The woman I live with has gradually become addicted and
she doesn't even really use her cellphone. But people started
texting her. She answered. And now it's on the kitchen table.
She catches up with the messages every time she walks
through the kitchen. I've almost stopped talking to her because
there's no boundary. She doesn't say, "Hold on, I'm going to
check my texts." She's in the kitchen and then suddenly,
she's really not. It's an ongoing process of being on call for
the cellphone.

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 by: sms - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 02:59 UTC

On 4/24/2022 9:51 AM, The Real Bev wrote:

> I can send texts via email from my computer to nnnnnnnnnn@vtext.com or
> whatever the proper domain is, but you have to KNOW the proper domain.
> More trouble than it's worth.

No you don't, Google Voice figures it out for you.

Of course you could also just send the text to a all the different SMS
gateways and one of them would likely work.

The issue is that with the SMS to eMail gateways they can't text you back.

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In article <t452re$ooo$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> The issue is that with the SMS to eMail gateways they can't text you back.

yes they can.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 12:24 UTC

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
> On 4/24/2022 1:17 PM, sms wrote:
>
> > SMS is not intended to express anything complex. It's used for things
> > like sending someone an address, notifying them that you're waiting
> > for them somewhere, or telling them to pick up something at the
> > store.
>
> Some businesses here use it too. My mechanic advises by text when the
> car is ready to be picked up. Likewise my doctor and dentist offices
> send appointment reminders that I can confirm by a return text. Easy
> peasy...

Exactly. I checked my SMS 'Inbox' just now and the earliest normal,
*non*-automated, SMS message (from SWMBO :-)) is of nearly a year ago,
all others - some 20 different senders - are (pseudo) automated ones.

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 by: sms - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:21 UTC

On 4/25/2022 5:24 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>> On 4/24/2022 1:17 PM, sms wrote:
>>
>>> SMS is not intended to express anything complex. It's used for things
>>> like sending someone an address, notifying them that you're waiting
>>> for them somewhere, or telling them to pick up something at the
>>> store.
>>
>> Some businesses here use it too. My mechanic advises by text when the
>> car is ready to be picked up. Likewise my doctor and dentist offices
>> send appointment reminders that I can confirm by a return text. Easy
>> peasy...
>
> Exactly. I checked my SMS 'Inbox' just now and the earliest normal,
> *non*-automated, SMS message (from SWMBO :-)) is of nearly a year ago,
> all others - some 20 different senders - are (pseudo) automated ones.

True. Hard to imagine being able to survive without SMS! Some
restaurants also use it when you put your name down on a waiting list so
they can notify you when your table is ready.

One annoying thing I've found about Google Voice is that some businesses
don't allow texts to go to a VOIP number. One credit union where I have
an account doesn't allow it. Yesterday I needed to receive a
confirmation code after I installed an app for online ordering from a
store and it would not allow a VOIP number. Maybe it's changed by now,
but Uber used to have the same restriction while Lyft did not.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:33 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 4/24/2022 9:51 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> > I can send texts via email from my computer to nnnnnnnnnn@vtext.com or
> > whatever the proper domain is, but you have to KNOW the proper domain.
> > More trouble than it's worth.
>
> No you don't, Google Voice figures it out for you.
>
> Of course you could also just send the text to a all the different SMS
> gateways and one of them would likely work.
>
> The issue is that with the SMS to eMail gateways they can't text you back.

Yes, they can. At least the ones I used (eons ago) could.

But probably most SMS recipients don't know *how* to do it, despite
the instructions in the received SMS, probably saying something like
"Put '<user>@<domain>' in the first line of your reply.".

Anyway, SMS-to-email gateways are old technology which only should be
needed/used if there are no other alternatives.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:59 UTC

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/24/2022 11:02 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> There seems to be no way to do it with the Pixel2. I wish people would
> >> send actual email instead of text messages, but that's probably not
> >> going to happen. I want to KEEP the text in the message on my computer,
> >> but I see no way to forward it to my email address. I can always type
> >> it, of course, but that just seems WRONG.
> >
> > I think you've missed the method which nospam mentioned, which is to
> > long press the SMS message [1], choose 'Share' and choose 'Gmail' (or
> > whatever email app you use) [2].
>
> Doesn't exist. Only shows phone numbers. No apps or even a box to
> insert something -- just choose from what's shown, all of which is wrong.

[...]

> > [2] Of course this depends on *which* 'Messages' app you use - i.e.
> > there's no such thing as "the [Android] 'Messages' app" -, but the
> > method works for whichever 'Messages' app was used in nospam's example
> > and for the Samsung 'Messages' app on my Samsung Galaxy A51 smartphone.
>
> I use whatever the Pixel2 provided. Blue thing that looks like a
> squarish text bubble.

Strange! One would expect that a (Google) Pixel smartphone should have
the Google Messages [1] app and that that Google Messages app would have
a 'Share' (like) function (for SMS messages). Most apps have a 'Share'
(like) function, so why not Google Messages?

Please have a look if the icon of your messages app matches that of
Google Messages or/and give the 'id' of your app.

Anyway, perhaps other Pixel users can have a look to see if you're
overlooking or misunderstanding something.

[...]

[1] 'Messages' by Google LLC
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging>
N.B. The Google Play entry does mention sharing of "pictures, GIFs,
emoji, stickers, videos and audio messages.", but that's obviously in a
RCS context, not SMS, so it's unclear if it can share SMS text.

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 by: nospam - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:20 UTC

In article <t46bkq.34c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> >
> > The issue is that with the SMS to eMail gateways they can't text you back.
>
> Yes, they can. At least the ones I used (eons ago) could.

for me, it was as recently as a few years ago, when someone used a
gateway to contact me.

> But probably most SMS recipients don't know *how* to do it, despite
> the instructions in the received SMS, probably saying something like
> "Put '<user>@<domain>' in the first line of your reply.".

replying was all that was needed. the gateway handled the rest.

> Anyway, SMS-to-email gateways are old technology which only should be
> needed/used if there are no other alternatives.

yep.

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 17:59 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <t46bkq.34c.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > The issue is that with the SMS to eMail gateways they can't text you back.
> >
> > Yes, they can. At least the ones I used (eons ago) could.
>
> for me, it was as recently as a few years ago, when someone used a
> gateway to contact me.
>
> > But probably most SMS recipients don't know *how* to do it, despite
> > the instructions in the received SMS, probably saying something like
> > "Put '<user>@<domain>' in the first line of your reply.".
>
> replying was all that was needed. the gateway handled the rest.

Yep. Sorry. Senior moment. I was confused with the SMS-to-email
direction. Of course *that* SMS has to contain the email address of the
recipient. Or am I still confused!? :-)

> > Anyway, SMS-to-email gateways are old technology which only should be
> > needed/used if there are no other alternatives.
>
> yep.

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 by: nospam - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 18:06 UTC

In article <t46ui3.5i8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> > > But probably most SMS recipients don't know *how* to do it, despite
> > > the instructions in the received SMS, probably saying something like
> > > "Put '<user>@<domain>' in the first line of your reply.".
> >
> > replying was all that was needed. the gateway handled the rest.
>
> Yep. Sorry. Senior moment. I was confused with the SMS-to-email
> direction. Of course *that* SMS has to contain the email address of the
> recipient. Or am I still confused!? :-)

it's worked for me in both directions. i simply replied as i would any
other text or email and it 'just worked'.

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 by: sms - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:41 UTC

On 4/25/2022 10:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

<snip>

> Yep. Sorry. Senior moment. I was confused with the SMS-to-email
> direction. Of course *that* SMS has to contain the email address of the
> recipient. Or am I still confused!? :-)

Yes, the SMS back to e-mail, or SMS back to actual SMS (not a web site
that lets you read received SMS) is the issue.

With Google Voice, when you send an SMS from the app or Google Voice web
site, the receiver can respond to the SMS directly.

There are two issues with Google Voice SMS:

1. Many businesses will not send authorization codes to a VOIP phone
number and many apps won't let you sign up with a VOIP phone number.

2. Google Voice can't send texts to countries other than the U.S. and
Canada (and even U.S. territories are _not_ included).

Let's say you're traveling in a country and you're using a data-only
prepaid SIM card. There are a bunch of apps that will let you send a
free SMS, from their web site, to anywhere in the world. But you'd
better include a number for them to SMS back to. But practically
speaking, if you're in most countries most phone users are using a data
based messaging app like WhatsApp, WeChat, Signal, Line, etc..

One thing you can when traveling outside the U.S., is to leave an
Android phone at home, with your SIM installed, and with an SMS
forwarding app running. The SMS forwarding app can forward incoming SMS
to your Google Voice number. You can respond to those incoming texts
using Google Voice. However even with that setup the issue is that on
some forwarding apps you won't know the originating number that the SMS
came from. And of course you need to have a spare Android phone to use
for this and deal with the hassle of not having your main mobile number
for the U.S. portion of the trip. But if you simply must be able to
receive SMS on your main number this will work.

On one foreign trip that we took, I ported all four of my family's lines
to T-Mobile since they include unlimited international texting. With
phones with an eSIM you can buy a prepaid eSIM data plan. When we
returned I ported the four lines back to a carrier that worked better in
the U.S..

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 by: The Real Bev - Tue, 26 Apr 2022 04:12 UTC

On 04/24/2022 01:17 PM, sms wrote:
> On 4/24/2022 12:54 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> OK, but since what we mean is the result of "text me" requests, there's
>> built-in ambiguity. I had no idea what SMS stands for until I looked it
>> up just now. I'm sorry to say that I assume that people who send SMS by
>> choice are technologically unsophisticated (or just dumb) -- you can't
>> really express anything complex with your thumbs. I think I'm more
>> right than wrong here.
>
> No, you're more wrong than right. SMS is not intended to express
> anything complex. It's used for things like sending someone an address,
> notifying them that you're waiting for them somewhere, or telling them
> to pick up something at the store.

Yes, but the thing I was interested in was long. The sender had written
it elsewhere and copy+pasted into the sms because she apparently didn't
have an email address for me.

> What is true is that SMS is not the optimal message service in most
> cases, it's the only one that works on all activated phones and that
> doesn't require some extra app, and that doesn't use data. Signal,
> WhatsApp, iMessage, RCS, are all better but not universal.
>
> And of course you don't just have to use your fingers. You can compose
> SMS on a computer and send them using an eMail to SMS gateway, or you
> can use Google Voice to send SMS. On a smart phone, one that supports a
> stylus is better for composing messages.

Better: speech to text.

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Cheers, Bev
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