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* VMS x86-64 compilersArne Vajhøj
+- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersSingle Stage to Orbit
+* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|+* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersCraig A. Berry
||+* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersJan-Erik Söderholm
|||`- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
||`- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|`* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersDan Cross
| `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|  +* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersDan Cross
|  |`* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|  | `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersDan Cross
|  |  `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|  |   `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersDan Cross
|  |    +- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersCraig A. Berry
|  |    `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|  |     `- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersDan Cross
|  `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMark Daniel
|   `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersCraig A. Berry
|    `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersCraig A. Berry
|     `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersMartin Vorländer
|      +- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersJohn Reagan
|      `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersCraig A. Berry
|       `- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersJohn Reagan
`* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersArne Vajhøj
 +- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersRobert A. Brooks
 `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersChris Townley
  `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersArne Vajhøj
   +- Re: VMS x86-64 compilersArne Vajhøj
   `* Re: VMS x86-64 compilersSimon Clubley
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From: new...@cct-net.co.uk (Chris Townley)
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Subject: Re: VMS x86-64 compilers
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 by: Chris Townley - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 20:58 UTC

On 17/11/2023 19:28, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 11/16/2023 7:22 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> Looks like new versions of C, Pascal and Fortran has just been released.
>
> And they just released Bliss!!

I am beyond bliss I think. When is Basic out?

--
Chris

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 00:47 UTC

On 11/17/2023 3:58 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 17/11/2023 19:28, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 11/16/2023 7:22 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> Looks like new versions of C, Pascal and Fortran has just been released.
>>
>> And they just released Bliss!!
>
> I am beyond bliss I think. When is Basic out?

We are still waiting for Basic and Python.

Supposedly they are to be out in H2, so looking at
the calendar ...

Arne

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 00:53 UTC

On 11/17/2023 7:47 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 11/17/2023 3:58 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>> On 17/11/2023 19:28, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2023 7:22 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> Looks like new versions of C, Pascal and Fortran has just been
>>>> released.
>>>
>>> And they just released Bliss!!
>>
>> I am beyond bliss I think. When is Basic out?
>
> We are still waiting for Basic and Python.
>
> Supposedly they are to be out in H2, so looking at
> the calendar ...

Python as in CPython.

$ write sys$output f$getsyi("VERSION")
V9.2-1
$ jython
org.python WARNING console: Failed to install
'org.python.util.InteractiveConsole': does not implement interface
org.python.core.Console.
Jython 2.7.3 (tags/v2.7.3:5f29801fe, Sep 10 2022, 18:52:49)
[OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (VMS Software, Inc)] on java1.8.0_372
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> print('Hello world!')
Hello world!
>>> Exit
$

Arne

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Subject: Re: VMS x86-64 compilers
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 by: John Reagan - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 04:06 UTC

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 2:04:06 PM UTC-5, Craig A. Berry wrote:
> On 11/16/23 11:51 PM, Martin Vorländer wrote:
> > Craig A. Berry <craig...@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/16/23 8:30 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote:
> >>> I took the new C compiler for a spin and built Perl with it. I didn't
> >>> see any of the compiler errors Mark saw, but I got several undefined
> >>> symbols when linking that I did not previously get:
> >>>
> >>> %ILINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 6 undefined symbols:
> >>> %ILINK-I-UDFSYM, C$_QSORT2BIG
> >>> %ILINK-I-UDFSYM, DECC$$GL___CRTL_VER_BUILD
> >>> %ILINK-I-UDFSYM, IN6ADDR_ANY
> >>> %ILINK-I-UDFSYM, IN6ADDR_LOOPBACK
> >>> %ILINK-I-UDFSYM, _NS_FLAGDATA
> >>> %ILINK-I-UDFSYM, _RES
> >>>
> >>> C$_QSORT2BIG is declared in errnodef.h, DECC$$GL___CRTL_VER_BUILD in
> >>> unixlib.h, in6addr_any and in6addr_loopback in in6.h, _ns_flagdata in
> >>> nameser.h, and _res is in resolv.h.
> >>>
> >>> So there is some kind of gear slippage among the compiler, the headers,
> >>> and the library. As far as I can see, the only thing new this week is
> >>> the compiler.
> >>
> >> Upgrading from TCPIP X6.0-22 to TCPIP V6.0-23 did not make any
> >> difference. I thought it might since some of the missing symbols are
> >> TCP/IP-related.
> >
> > I also saw she missing IN6ADDR_ANY when building ZeroMQ.
> >
> > The TCP/IP shareables lack it, but it is exported from the TCP/IP libraries.
> As I mentioned in the forum thread here:
>
> https://forum.vmssoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=8898&p=19964#p19964
>
> compiling /NOOPT makes the undefined symbol warnings go away. Which is
> an unfortunate workaround but it's where we are until the next release I
> guess.
Yeah, we might have to rush another set of updates. US Thanksgiving week will slow it down.

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 by: Simon Clubley - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:11 UTC

On 2023-11-17, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 11/17/2023 3:58 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>> On 17/11/2023 19:28, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2023 7:22 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> Looks like new versions of C, Pascal and Fortran has just been released.
>>>
>>> And they just released Bliss!!
>>
>> I am beyond bliss I think. When is Basic out?
>
> We are still waiting for Basic and Python.
>
> Supposedly they are to be out in H2, so looking at
> the calendar ...
>

Well it didn't happen on your predicted date of 1-Nov-2023. :-)

Could still happen by my predicted date of 15-Jan-2024...

Simon.

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 by: Simon Clubley - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:13 UTC

On 2023-11-20, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:
> On 2023-11-17, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> On 11/17/2023 3:58 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>>> On 17/11/2023 19:28, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2023 7:22 AM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> Looks like new versions of C, Pascal and Fortran has just been released.
>>>>
>>>> And they just released Bliss!!
>>>
>>> I am beyond bliss I think. When is Basic out?
>>
>> We are still waiting for Basic and Python.
>>
>> Supposedly they are to be out in H2, so looking at
>> the calendar ...
>>
>
> Well it didn't happen on your predicted date of 1-Nov-2023. :-)
>
> Could still happen by my predicted date of 15-Jan-2024...
>

That prediction was for Basic BTW. I have no idea which year Python
will be available. :-)

Simon.

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