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* how long did mSATA last?Woozy Song
`* Re: how long did mSATA last?Jeff Gaines
 `* Re: how long did mSATA last?Abandoned_Trolley
  `* Re: how long did mSATA last?Theo
   `- Re: how long did mSATA last?Abandoned_Trolley

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 by: Woozy Song - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 09:32 UTC

I had a Dell PC with mSATA drive, it also had Ivy Bridge CPU. I recall
Gigabyte mainboards with Ivy Bridge chipsets had mSATA slot.
I have some Haswell and Skylake PCs; them and none have mSATA.

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Subject: Re: how long did mSATA last?
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 by: Jeff Gaines - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 09:42 UTC

On 20/04/2023 in message <u1r0rs$hpa1$1@dont-email.me> Woozy Song wrote:

>I had a Dell PC with mSATA drive, it also had Ivy Bridge CPU. I recall
>Gigabyte mainboards with Ivy Bridge chipsets had mSATA slot.
>I have some Haswell and Skylake PCs; them and none have mSATA.

Me too :-)

Dell Precision M6800 Laptop. Fortunately it also takes standard SSDs so I
will switch when it dies.

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:01 UTC

On 20/04/2023 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 20/04/2023 in message <u1r0rs$hpa1$1@dont-email.me> Woozy Song wrote:
>
>> I had a Dell PC with mSATA drive, it also had Ivy Bridge CPU. I recall
>> Gigabyte mainboards with Ivy Bridge chipsets had mSATA slot.
>> I have some Haswell and Skylake PCs; them and none have mSATA.
>
> Me too :-)
>
> Dell Precision M6800 Laptop. Fortunately it also takes standard SSDs so
> I will switch when it dies.
>

I think that as soon as M.2 got in to the business of multiple lanes it
became redundant.

The M.2 SSDs can outperform off board SATA 3.0 drives by some margin - I
have seen figures around 40 GB/S quoted by some motherboard makers.

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From: theom+n...@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
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Subject: Re: how long did mSATA last?
Date: 20 Apr 2023 12:59:04 +0100 (BST)
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 by: Theo - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 11:59 UTC

Abandoned_Trolley <fred@fredsmith.co.uk> wrote:
> On 20/04/2023 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> > On 20/04/2023 in message <u1r0rs$hpa1$1@dont-email.me> Woozy Song wrote:
> >
> >> I had a Dell PC with mSATA drive, it also had Ivy Bridge CPU. I recall
> >> Gigabyte mainboards with Ivy Bridge chipsets had mSATA slot.
> >> I have some Haswell and Skylake PCs; them and none have mSATA.

mSATA was never very popular on desktops, where there was plenty of space
for 2.5" SATA drives. Any mSATA drive can be trivially adapted to the 2.5"
form factor.

It was more popular on laptops where a 2.5" was too big.

If you can get a SATA M.2 drive there might be a passive adapter to mSATA
out there.

> I think that as soon as M.2 got in to the business of multiple lanes it
> became redundant.

mSATA was more popular in the early 2010s before NVMe came to market - it
took a while before OSes, BIOSes, etc supported it. eg I have a Haswell E3
server and it won't boot from NVMe. I think Win7 and 8 as released won't
work out of the box on NVMe - to install them you need additional drivers.

M.2 SATA has never supported multiple lanes, it was only M.2 NVMe that used
it, but it had to wait for drivers to be commonplace.

(an even nicher niche was M.2 AHCI SSDs - used a PCIe interface but looked
like a SATA controller to the OS. They went away after a couple of years,
but for a long time MacOS only supported them and not NVMe, because they
shipped in 2013-2015 Macs)

> The M.2 SSDs can outperform off board SATA 3.0 drives by some margin - I
> have seen figures around 40 GB/S quoted by some motherboard makers.

PCIe Gen5 only goes up to 14GB/s, so that's off - do you mean 40Gb/s?

Theo

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 15:18 UTC

On 20/04/2023 12:59, Theo wrote:
> PCIe Gen5 only goes up to 14GB/s, so that's off - do you mean 40Gb/s?

my apologies ... YES - I do mean 40Gb/s?

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