Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>> headphonesi
>
> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
> incorrect post.

Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?

It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled wireless
setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of comprehension.

It seems "John" made a sensible case, where, yet again, for the umpteenth
time, the crippled iPhone lacks basic high standards Android always had.

On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>> headphonesi
>>
>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>> incorrect post.
>
> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?
>
> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled wireless
> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of comprehension.

Here is his entire first post on the subject:

'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15
Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy an
Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music high
fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with Apple
from an Apple fan. '

Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.

That would be great!

On 2023-11-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>> headphonesi
>>>
>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial
>>> factually incorrect post.
>>
>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already
>> knew?
>>
>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>> wireless setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>> comprehension.
>
> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>
> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
> 15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy
> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
> high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with
> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>
> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>
> That would be great!

He won't because he *can't*, because the weak troll is weak. Their
emotional and intellectual intelligence is woefully inept, because they
are mental weaklings.

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On 11/22/2023 8:13 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>> headphonesi
>>>
>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>>> incorrect post.
>>
>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?
>>
>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>> wireless
>> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>> comprehension.
>
> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>
> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15
> Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy an
> Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music high
> fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with Apple
> from an Apple fan. '
>
> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>
> That would be great!

A certain miniumum level of technical competence was assumed since
nobody uses wired headphones anymore. Even using wired headphones
192/24 bit is not possible. Only 48k.

On 11/22/2023 9:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-11-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>
>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial
>>>> factually incorrect post.
>>>
>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already
>>> knew?
>>>
>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>> wireless setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>> comprehension.
>>
>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>
>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy
>> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
>> high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with
>> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>
>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>
>> That would be great!
>
> He won't because he *can't*, because the weak troll is weak. Their
> emotional and intellectual intelligence is woefully inept, because they
> are mental weaklings.
>
192/24 bit is not possible even with wired headphones. Therefore my
statement was completely accurate.

On 2023-11-22 21:43, John wrote:
> On 11/22/2023 9:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2023-11-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial
>>>>> factually incorrect post.
>>>>
>>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already
>>>> knew?
>>>>
>>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>>> wireless setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>>> comprehension.
>>>
>>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>>
>>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy
>>> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
>>> high fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with
>>> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>>
>>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>>
>>> That would be great!
>>
>> He won't because he *can't*, because the weak troll is weak. Their
>> emotional and intellectual intelligence is woefully inept, because they
>> are mental weaklings.
>>
> 192/24 bit is not possible even with wired headphones.  Therefore my
> statement was completely accurate.

Nope.

Still wrong!

'To listen to songs at sample rates higher than 48 kHz, you need an
external digital-to-analog converter'

On 2023-11-22 21:42, John wrote:
> On 11/22/2023 8:13 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>
>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>>>> incorrect post.
>>>
>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?
>>>
>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>> wireless
>>> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>> comprehension.
>>
>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>
>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy
>> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
>> high fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with
>> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>
>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>
>> That would be great!
>
>
> A certain miniumum level of technical competence was assumed since
> nobody uses wired headphones anymore.   Even using wired headphones
> 192/24 bit is not possible.  Only 48k.

You said the PHONE couldn't do it.

It can.

You were wrong.

Deal with it.

On 11/22/2023 9:58 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-22 21:43, John wrote:
>> On 11/22/2023 9:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial
>>>>>> factually incorrect post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already
>>>>> knew?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>>>> wireless setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>>>> comprehension.
>>>>
>>>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>>>
>>>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>>>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>>>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy
>>>> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
>>>> high fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with
>>>> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>>>
>>>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>>>
>>>> That would be great!
>>>
>>> He won't because he *can't*, because the weak troll is weak. Their
>>> emotional and intellectual intelligence is woefully inept, because they
>>> are mental weaklings.
>>>
>> 192/24 bit is not possible even with wired headphones.  Therefore my
>> statement was completely accurate.
>
> Nope.
>
> Still wrong!
>
> 'To listen to songs at sample rates higher than 48 kHz, you need an
> external digital-to-analog converter'

Android requires NO ADDITIONAL equipment to support 192/24 bit straight
out of the box. You just have provided further demonstration of the
inadequacy of the Apple implantation.

On 11/22/2023 9:59 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-22 21:42, John wrote:
>> On 11/22/2023 8:13 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>>>>> incorrect post.
>>>>
>>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?
>>>>
>>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>>> wireless
>>>> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>>> comprehension.
>>>
>>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>>
>>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy
>>> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
>>> high fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with
>>> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>>
>>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>>
>>> That would be great!
>>
>>
>> A certain miniumum level of technical competence was assumed since
>> nobody uses wired headphones anymore.   Even using wired headphones
>> 192/24 bit is not possible.  Only 48k.
>
> You said the PHONE couldn't do it.
>
> It can.
>
> You were wrong.
>
> Deal with it.

The iPhone cannot do 192/24 bit without adding additional external
equipment - which Android does not require. Face it you're full of shit.

On 2023-11-22 22:38, John wrote:
> On 11/22/2023 9:58 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-22 21:43, John wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2023 9:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial
>>>>>>> factually incorrect post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already
>>>>>> knew?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>>>>> wireless setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>>>>> comprehension.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>>>>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>>>>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to buy
>>>>> an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
>>>>> high fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate gripe with
>>>>> Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>>>>
>>>>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be great!
>>>>
>>>> He won't because he *can't*, because the weak troll is weak. Their
>>>> emotional and intellectual intelligence is woefully inept, because they
>>>> are mental weaklings.
>>>>
>>> 192/24 bit is not possible even with wired headphones.  Therefore my
>>> statement was completely accurate.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> Still wrong!
>>
>> 'To listen to songs at sample rates higher than 48 kHz, you need an
>> external digital-to-analog converter'
>
>
> Android requires NO ADDITIONAL equipment to support 192/24 bit straight
> out of the box.  You just have provided further demonstration of the
> inadequacy of the Apple implantation.

Stop making excuses for being wrong in the first post.

On 2023-11-22 22:40, John wrote:
> On 11/22/2023 9:59 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-22 21:42, John wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2023 8:13 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-22 19:41, Wally J wrote:
>>>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>>>>> headphonesi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>>>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>>>>>> incorrect post.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already
>>>>> knew?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>>>>> wireless
>>>>> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>>>>> comprehension.
>>>>
>>>> Here is his entire first post on the subject:
>>>>
>>>> 'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
>>>> Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
>>>> 15 Pro and other models do not support it.  Therefore you have to
>>>> buy an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best
>>>> music high fidelity off of Apple Music.   There is a legitimate
>>>> gripe with Apple from an Apple fan. '
>>>>
>>>> Point out the part that mentions "wireless setup" at all.
>>>>
>>>> That would be great!
>>>
>>>
>>> A certain miniumum level of technical competence was assumed since
>>> nobody uses wired headphones anymore.   Even using wired headphones
>>> 192/24 bit is not possible.  Only 48k.
>>
>> You said the PHONE couldn't do it.
>>
>> It can.
>>
>> You were wrong.
>>
>> Deal with it.
>
>
> The iPhone cannot do 192/24 bit without adding additional external
> equipment - which Android does not require.  Face it you're full of shit.

You were full of shit in the first post.

Just admit it.

You didn't know ANY of the actual facts.

On 11/22/23 7:41 PM, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>> headphonesi
>>
>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>> incorrect post.
>
> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?
>
> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled wireless
> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of comprehension.
>
> It seems "John" made a sensible case, where, yet again, for the umpteenth
> time, the crippled iPhone lacks basic high standards Android always had.

What is really hilarious is that Android works better with Apples own
music service for lossless audio than what Apple products do. That
should be an embarrassment to Apple and means Apple needs to get its act
together.

On 2023-11-23 09:58, John wrote:
> On 11/22/23 7:41 PM, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>>> the iPhone uses Bluetooth to transmit the audio to external
>>>> headphonesi
>>>
>>> Not to wired headphones, it doesn't. And don't think the rest of us
>>> didn't notice you didn't mention "wireless" in your initial factually
>>> incorrect post.
>>
>> Why are you trying to make excuses for what everyone else already knew?
>>
>> It was clear from the start he was talking about Apple's crippled
>> wireless
>> setup, Jolly Roger - so don't blame "John" for your lack of
>> comprehension.
>>
>> It seems "John" made a sensible case, where, yet again, for the umpteenth
>> time, the crippled iPhone lacks basic high standards Android always had.
>
>
> What is really hilarious is that Android works better with Apples own
> music service for lossless audio than what Apple products do.  That
> should be an embarrassment to Apple and means Apple needs to get its act
> together.

What is really really hilarious is that you said this:

"Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15
Pro and other models do not support it."

But what is really really really hilarious is that you just can't admit
that that claim was wrong.