Is this software store any good?

Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install it
after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in
sudo apt install snapd
the response is software package is not available or some such.

is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?

Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>
> Is this software store any good?
>
> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install it
> after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in
> sudo apt install snapd
> the response is  software package is not available or some such.
>
> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?

It is blocked in Linux Mint, although you still can install it yourself.
Read what the Mint team had to say about it:

https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906

Of course, the decision to install it or not is up to you.

On 08/04/2022 20:02, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>
> Is this software store any good?
>
> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install it
> after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in
> sudo apt install snapd
> the response is software package is not available or some such.
>
> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?
>
> Rene

Yes it is worth it. Anything free is worth installing on Linux Mint. I use
all free software people discuss here.

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>
> Is this software store any good?
>
Personally, I am 'anti-' snap packaging.

> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install
> it after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in sudo
> apt install snapd the response is software package is not available
> or some such.
>
I'm not sure your 'the snaps file in etc/apt' is precisely defined.

These instructions at snapcraft explain specifically how to solve the
nosnap.pref condition in Mint.

https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint

> On a Linux Mint 20.x release (20, 20.1 and 20.2),
> /etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref needs to be either removed or
> moved before Snap can be installed. This can be accomplished from the
> command line, and the following command (for example) moves
> nosnap.pref to a renamed nosnap.backup file in your Documents
> directory:
>

> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?
>
Personally I would exhaust other alternatives before I joined the snap
bandwagon.

--
Mike Easter

On 4/8/22 15:59, this is what Mike Easter wrote:
> Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>
>> Is this software store any good?
>>
> Personally, I am 'anti-' snap packaging.
>
>> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install
>> it after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in sudo
>> apt install snapd the response is  software package is not available
>> or some such.
>>
> I'm not sure your 'the snaps file in etc/apt' is precisely defined.
>
> These instructions at snapcraft explain specifically how to solve the
> nosnap.pref condition in Mint.
>
> https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint
>
>> On a Linux Mint 20.x release (20, 20.1 and 20.2),
>> /etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref needs to be either removed or
>> moved before Snap can be installed. This can be accomplished from the
>> command line, and the following command (for example) moves
>> nosnap.pref to a renamed nosnap.backup file in your Documents
>> directory:
>>
>
>> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?
>>
> Personally I would exhaust other alternatives before I joined the snap bandwagon.
>
>
+1
I do like flatpack and appimage as alternates. But I stay away from flatpack as much as I can. I only have one
program, kpat, as the old version in the repros is buggy and the fixes are in flatpack.

Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows. You download it and put it someplace and execute it.
Delete the file and it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during runtime. I made an 'appimage' folder
in my home and just drop them there.
The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a launcher and let that create add to the 'other'
category in the menu.

Big Al wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>>>
>> Personally I would exhaust other alternatives before I joined the snap
>> bandwagon.
>>
>>
> +1
> I do like flatpack and appimage as alternates.  But I stay away from
> flatpack as much as I can.  I only have one program, kpat, as the old
> version in the repros is buggy and the fixes are in flatpack.
>
> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows.   You
> download it and put it someplace and execute it. Delete the file and
> it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during runtime.
> I made an 'appimage' folder in my home and just drop them there.
> The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a
> launcher and let that create add to the 'other' category in the menu.
>
Historically, I have always been able to make do w/ the repo/s including
..ppa/s.

I have had very little experience w/ compiling; on the few occasions in
which I 'reached out' for a compile, my limited skills resulted in:

- often, it 'just worked' - piece o' pie
- when it didn't just work, it would have been impossible for me w/o
the extensive help of more experienced folks in newsgroups to help me
resolve dependencies

I am very concerned that this movement in the direction of big packages
will result in more apps which do NOT appear in repo/s or .ppa/s and it
will perhaps push me toward having to try my hand at compiling again,
which I didn't much like sometimes.

--
Mike Easter

On 2022-04-08 4:06 p.m., Big Al wrote:
> On 4/8/22 15:59, this is what Mike Easter wrote:
>> Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this software store any good?
>>>
>> Personally, I am 'anti-' snap packaging.
>>
>>> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install
>>> it after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in sudo
>>> apt install snapd the response is  software package is not available
>>> or some such.
>>>
>> I'm not sure your 'the snaps file in etc/apt' is precisely defined.
>>
>> These instructions at snapcraft explain specifically how to solve the
>> nosnap.pref condition in Mint.
>>
>> https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint
>>
>>> On a Linux Mint 20.x release (20, 20.1 and 20.2),
>>> /etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref needs to be either removed or
>>> moved before Snap can be installed. This can be accomplished from the
>>> command line, and the following command (for example) moves
>>> nosnap.pref to a renamed nosnap.backup file in your Documents
>>> directory:
>>>
>>
>>> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?
>>>
>> Personally I would exhaust other alternatives before I joined the snap
>> bandwagon.
>>
>>
> +1
> I do like flatpack and appimage as alternates.  But I stay away from
> flatpack as much as I can.  I only have one program, kpat, as the old
> version in the repros is buggy and the fixes are in flatpack.
>
> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows.   You
> download it and put it someplace and execute it. Delete the file and
> it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during runtime.
> I made an 'appimage' folder in my home and just drop them there.
> The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a
> launcher and let that create add to the 'other' category in the menu.

Thanks to all who replied, that helped me decide plus a bunch more
reading and googling duck-ducking I have decided to drop this snapd
thingy like a hot potato.

Rene

>

On 4/8/22 5:06 PM, Big Al wrote:
> On 4/8/22 15:59, this is what Mike Easter wrote:
>> Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this software store any good?
>>>
>> Personally, I am 'anti-' snap packaging.
>>
>>> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install
>>> it after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in sudo
>>> apt install snapd the response is  software package is not available
>>> or some such.
>>>
>> I'm not sure your 'the snaps file in etc/apt' is precisely defined.
>>
>> These instructions at snapcraft explain specifically how to solve the
>> nosnap.pref condition in Mint.
>>
>> https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint
>>
>>> On a Linux Mint 20.x release (20, 20.1 and 20.2),
>>> /etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref needs to be either removed or
>>> moved before Snap can be installed. This can be accomplished from the
>>> command line, and the following command (for example) moves
>>> nosnap.pref to a renamed nosnap.backup file in your Documents
>>> directory:
>>>
>>
>>> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?
>>>
>> Personally I would exhaust other alternatives before I joined the
>> snap bandwagon.
>>
>>
> +1
> I do like flatpack and appimage as alternates.  But I stay away from
> flatpack as much as I can.  I only have one program, kpat, as the old
> version in the repros is buggy and the fixes are in flatpack.
>
> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows. You
> download it and put it someplace and execute it. Delete the file and
> it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during
> runtime.  I made an 'appimage' folder in my home and just drop them
> there.
> The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a
> launcher and let that create add to the 'other' category in the menu.
>
+1

On 4/8/22 5:16 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
> On 2022-04-08 4:06 p.m., Big Al wrote:
>> On 4/8/22 15:59, this is what Mike Easter wrote:
>>> Rene Lamontagne wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is this software store any good?
>>>>
>>> Personally, I am 'anti-' snap packaging.
>>>
>>>> Is it worth installing on Mint 20.3? In any case I tried to install
>>>> it after renaming the snaps file in etc/apt, but when I type in sudo
>>>> apt install snapd the response is  software package is not available
>>>> or some such.
>>>>
>>> I'm not sure your 'the snaps file in etc/apt' is precisely defined.
>>>
>>> These instructions at snapcraft explain specifically how to solve the
>>> nosnap.pref condition in Mint.
>>>
>>> https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint
>>>
>>>> On a Linux Mint 20.x release (20, 20.1 and 20.2),
>>>> /etc/apt/preferences.d/nosnap.pref needs to be either removed or
>>>> moved before Snap can be installed. This can be accomplished from the
>>>> command line, and the following command (for example) moves
>>>> nosnap.pref to a renamed nosnap.backup file in your Documents
>>>> directory:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> is this worth pursuing or should i just forget it?
>>>>
>>> Personally I would exhaust other alternatives before I joined the
>>> snap bandwagon.
>>>
>>>
>> +1
>> I do like flatpack and appimage as alternates.  But I stay away from
>> flatpack as much as I can.  I only have one program, kpat, as the old
>> version in the repros is buggy and the fixes are in flatpack.
>>
>> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows. You
>> download it and put it someplace and execute it. Delete the file and
>> it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during
>> runtime.  I made an 'appimage' folder in my home and just drop them
>> there.
>> The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a
>> launcher and let that create add to the 'other' category in the menu.
>
> Thanks to all  who replied,  that helped me decide plus a bunch more
> reading and googling  duck-ducking  I have decided to drop this snapd
> thingy like a hot potato.
>
> Rene
>
>>
>
Wise decision.

Big Al <Bears@invalid.com>:
> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows. You download it and put it someplace and execute it.
> Delete the file and it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during runtime. I made an 'appimage' folder
> in my home and just drop them there.
> The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a launcher and let that create add to the 'other'
> category in the menu.

That's not a problem at all with the Cinnamon menu editor.

Yrrah

On 4/9/22 13:45, this is what Yrrah wrote:
> Big Al <Bears@invalid.com>:
>
>> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows. You download it and put it someplace and execute it.
>> Delete the file and it's gone, other than maybe config or data files create during runtime. I made an 'appimage' folder
>> in my home and just drop them there.
>> The only issue I have is getting it on the menu, and I just create a launcher and let that create add to the 'other'
>> category in the menu.
>
> That's not a problem at all with the Cinnamon menu editor.
>
> Yrrah
I know. I've done it both ways. I just wish appimages would do it themselves. That's life!

Al

Big Al wrote:

> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows.   You

Ever tried to *make* one? That's not so simple. I tried once, but gave
up. Tutorials didn't help much, they only show you the simplest things
and the rest you have to figure out for yourself.

On 4/9/22 14:32, this is what NP2 wrote:
> Big Al wrote:
>
>> Appimage is really simple, it's like portable apps in Windows.   You
>
> Ever tried to *make* one? That's not so simple. I tried once, but gave up. Tutorials didn't help much, they only show
> you the simplest things and the rest you have to figure out for yourself.
>
That doesn't surprise me. Over the years I've tried to make a 'widget' and found help how to do it, but you're right,
they get you started with the structure and just enough info to be dangerous.

I finally got Linux theming down pretty good.

Al.