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* MINCE editorJim Haug
`* Re: MINCE editorLars Brinkhoff
 `* Re: MINCE editorJim Haug
  `* Re: MINCE editorcurt mayer
   `- Re: MINCE editorHans-Åke Lund

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Subject: MINCE editor
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 by: Jim Haug - Sun, 1 May 2022 23:22 UTC

I saw in some old conversations that people were interested in the CP/M editor MINCE. After considerable hunting I found it at

http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/rlee/index_dirHTML.html#IDU-UNICORN-MINCE_SCRABBLE-

I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at

https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince

It took me a bit to sort it out. The config settings for a VT100 terminal were incorrect, and it took a few tries to sort it out

Re: MINCE editor

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 by: Lars Brinkhoff - Mon, 2 May 2022 06:02 UTC

Jim Haug wrote:
> I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at
> https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince

As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.

Re: MINCE editor

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Subject: Re: MINCE editor
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 by: Jim Haug - Tue, 3 May 2022 05:40 UTC

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-6, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> Jim Haug wrote:
> > I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at
> > https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince
> As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.

Ah, I think you’re right. Looking through the a makefile it looks like it’s for modern machines. Well, the old manuals are handy at least

Re: MINCE editor

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Subject: Re: MINCE editor
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 by: curt mayer - Tue, 30 May 2023 05:14 UTC

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:40:09 PM UTC-7, Jim Haug wrote:
> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-6, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> > Jim Haug wrote:
> > > I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at
> > > https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince
> > As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there.
> Ah, I think you’re right. Looking through the a makefile it looks like it’s for modern machines. Well, the old manuals are handy at least

i've been looking for this for ages. it's the MINCE oem kit, which allowed the user to customize key bindings, write new functions, etc,
in BDS C and generate a new mince. it supplied a lot, but not the whole editor.

--curt

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Subject: Re: MINCE editor
From: hans.ake...@gmail.com (Hans-Åke Lund)
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 by: Hans-Åke Lund - Wed, 31 May 2023 10:09 UTC

tisdag 30 maj 2023 kl. 07:14:19 UTC+2 skrev curt mayer:
> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 10:40:09 PM UTC-7, Jim Haug wrote:
> > On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 12:02:46 AM UTC-6, Lars Brinkhoff wrote:
> > > Jim Haug wrote:
> > > > I found source code (or a version of it) and documentation at
> > > > https://github.com/johnsonjh/pmince
> > > As far as I understand, there's no source code for MINCE itself there..
> > Ah, I think you’re right. Looking through the a makefile it looks like it’s for modern machines. Well, the old manuals are handy at least
> i've been looking for this for ages. it's the MINCE oem kit, which allowed the user to customize key bindings, write new functions, etc,
> in BDS C and generate a new mince. it supplied a lot, but not the whole editor.
>
> --curt

I do have the source to the Mince editor, not the original source but ported to the Whitesmiths
C compiler. I have however not published this source code as MOTU (Mark Of The Unicorn)
did not want me to do that (at least not yet).

See mail below:

Subject: Re: Very old Mince software from Mark of the Unicorn
From: Jim Cooper <jim@motu.com>
Date: 2020-07-29 01:58
To: hans.ake.lund@gmail.com
CC: MOTU Customer Service <customerservice@motu.com>, Tina Hanlon
<tina@motu.com>
Hello Hans-Åke,
Thank you for reaching out about this. Yes, that Mince source code is ours. We think about
releasing it from time to time, but for now, please do not do so. We will let you know if and when
we may decide to release it.
Thanks for your understanding.
Best, --J
--
Jim Cooper
Director of Marketing
MOTU, Inc.
1280 Massachusetts Ave.
Cambridge, MA 02138
Office: 617.576.2760
motu.com
Facebook: motu
Twitter: motutech
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youtube.com/motuTV

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From: <general_contact@motu.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Very old Mince software from Mark of the Unicorn
To: <customerservice@motu.com>
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2020-07-29 09:58Re: Very old Mince software from Mark of the U...
Date: 28th July 2020 10:48
First Name: Hans-Ake
Last Name: Lund
Email address:
hans.ake.lund@gmail.com
Subject: Very old Mince software from Mark of the Unicorn

Hi,
When cleaning out some boxes in my basement I found a diskette with
source code to the Mince editor, it has a copyright notice:
"Copyright (C) 1981 by Mark of the Unicorn Inc."
I have no idea how this diskette ended up in my basement
but I was extensively using Mince while working with developing C code
at Unisoft AB which was a subcontractor to Whitesmiths Ltd at the time.
It seems the the Mince source code on the diskette is modified to be
used with the Whitesmiths C compiler.
It seems that the origin of MOTU is Mark of the Unicorn Inc. at least
according to this link: http://www.scrounge.org/unicorn.htm
After some fixes to the source code I can run Mince on a 64 bit Linux
machine and it seems to work just as intended. (Attaching the code as
a .tar file.)
My question to you is: who owns the copyright to this program now?
Could it be possible to publish the code as open source as a
historical artifact from the development of microcomputer software?

Best regards
Hans-Åke Lund

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