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by: David Brooks - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:08 UTC

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by: David Brooks - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 22:13 UTC

On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>
> Do you agree with the message being given?

Additional Mac newsgroup added.

Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of AV
software on an Apple computer.

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by: gtr - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:22 UTC

On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:

> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>
>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>
>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>
> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>
> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
> AV software on an Apple computer.

AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

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by: YK - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:06 UTC

On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>
>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>
>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>
> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>
> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of AV
> software on an Apple computer.

I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:

Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just prior
to that statement.

I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.

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by: David Brooks - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:38 UTC

On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
> On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>
>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>
>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>
>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>
> I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
> the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:
>
> Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
> product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
> Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just prior
> to that statement.
>
> I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
> computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
> compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
> issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.
>
> YK

Thank you for answering my question.

With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
this procedure is necessary?

https://ibb.co/kS168rp

TIA

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by: David Brooks - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:46 UTC

On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
> On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:
>
>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>
>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>
>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>
>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>
>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>
> AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
> caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.

That made me smile! :-)

I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple
computer.

If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?

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by: David Brooks - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 10:54 UTC

On 15/07/2021 11:38, David Brooks wrote:
> On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
>> On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>>
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>>
>>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>>
>>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>>
>> I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
>> the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:
>>
>> Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
>> product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
>> Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just
>> prior to that statement.
>>
>> I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
>> computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
>> compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
>> issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.
>>
>> YK
>
> Thank you for answering my question.
>
> With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
> this procedure is necessary?
>
> https://ibb.co/kS168rp

One may find that page of instruction here:-

https://www.clamxav.com/support/FAQs/

HTH

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by: Wolffan - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 12:30 UTC

On 2021 Jul 15, David Brooks wrote
(in article<scp458$mgg$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):

> On 15/07/2021 11:38, David Brooks wrote:
> > On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
> > > On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
> > > > > I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
> > > > >
> > > > > https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you agree with the message being given?
> > > >
> > > > Additional Mac newsgroup added.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
> > > > AV software on an Apple computer.
> > >
> > > I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
> > > the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:
> > >
> > > Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
> > > product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
> > > Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just
> > > prior to that statement.
> > >
> > > I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
> > > computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
> > > compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
> > > issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.
> > >
> > > YK
> >
> > Thank you for answering my question.
> >
> > With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
> > this procedure is necessary?
> >
> > https://ibb.co/kS168rp
>
> One may find that page of instruction here:-
>
> https://www.clamxav.com/support/FAQs/
>
> HTH

and here we go again. He never stops.

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by: Brian Gordon - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:27 UTC

In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
>> On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:
>>
>>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>>
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>>
>>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>>
>>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>>
>> AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
>> caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.
>
>That made me smile! :-)
>
>I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
>and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple
>computer.
>
>If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?
>
>

Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.

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by: gtr - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:11 UTC

On 2021-07-15 14:27:01 +0000, Brian Gordon said:

> In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
> David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>> On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:
>>>
>>>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>>>
>>>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>>>
>>>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>>>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>>>
>>> AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
>>> caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.
>>
>> That made me smile! :-)
>>
>> I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
>> and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple
>> computer.
>>
>> If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?
>>
>>
>
> Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.

Yes, but it is now a real curse. You install it, run it, and then have
to peel each finger off your system with de-installation. It's truly a
nuisance.

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by: YK - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:23 UTC

As I am not the developer and I have never used it, I can't answer that
question. I know it was included with some of the early macOSX server
versions. But, I never used used it, although some folks in a other
locations did. You might try contacting the developer with your
question. Maybe he is willing to provide you with an answer, if he is
willing and provides support for purchased versions.

On 7/15/21 6:38 AM, David Brooks wrote:
> On 15/07/2021 02:06, YK wrote:
>> On 7/14/21 6:13 PM, David Brooks wrote:
>>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>>
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>>
>>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>>
>>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>>
>> I think, based on how many times you have asked about anti-viruses on
>> the newsgroup, you may have missed this sentence in his presentation:
>>
>> Rather than asking which non-Apple "anti-virus" or "Internet security"
>> product is best, a much better question is "how should I protect my
>> Mac". Maybe you should also dwell on his three bullet points just
>> prior to that statement.
>>
>> I have always tried to follow common sense since I started using
>> computers in 1983 and on the internet since 1995. I have fixed many
>> compromised computers for clients during that time, but never had an
>> issue with my own devices, outside of hardware issues.
>>
>> YK
>
> Thank you for answering my question.
>
> With your considerable experience and knowledge, can you advise on WHY
> this procedure is necessary?
>
> https://ibb.co/kS168rp
>
> TIA

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by: TimS - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:33 UTC

On 15 Jul 2021 at 17:11:34 BST, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2021-07-15 14:27:01 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>
>> In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
>> David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>>>>
>>>>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>>>>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>>>>
>>>> AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
>>>> caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.
>>>
>>> That made me smile! :-)
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
>>> and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?
>>
>> Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.
>
> Yes, but it is now a real curse. You install it, run it, and then have
> to peel each finger off your system with de-installation. It's truly a
> nuisance.

Why are any of you loonies paying any attention to Mr Brooks, a well-known
troll?

--
Tim

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by: gtr - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:30 UTC

On 2021-07-15 16:33:05 +0000, TimS said:

> On 15 Jul 2021 at 17:11:34 BST, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-07-15 14:27:01 +0000, Brian Gordon said:
>>
>>> In article <scp3lg$gfi$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>,
>>> David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 15/07/2021 00:22, gtr wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-14 22:13:26 +0000, David Brooks said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/07/2021 08:08, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> I'd welcome your thoughts on this article:-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8841
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you agree with the message being given?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additional Mac newsgroup added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't be shy. I'd like to know what YOU think about the use of
>>>>>> AV software on an Apple computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> AV Software still means "Audio Visual" software to me. Good overall
>>>>> caveats about anti-virus issues from Galt.
>>>>
>>>> That made me smile! :-)
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if anyone reading these newsgroups DOES ignore John's advice
>>>> and /has/ installed a commercial anti-virus software programme on an Apple
>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>> If there is, WHICH product have they chosen?
>>>
>>> Whenever I've asked, Malwarebytes is almost always the suggestion.
>>
>> Yes, but it is now a real curse. You install it, run it, and then have
>> to peel each finger off your system with de-installation. It's truly a
>> nuisance.
>
> Why are any of you loonies paying any attention to Mr Brooks, a well-known
> troll?

How does your critique of our responding any less a waste of time?

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by: David Brooks - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:35 UTC

On 15/07/2021 17:23, YK wrote:
> As I am not the developer and I have never used it, I can't answer that
> question. I know it was included with some of the early macOSX server
> versions. But, I never used used it, although some folks in a other
> locations did. You might try contacting the developer with your
> question. Maybe he is willing to provide you with an answer, if he is
> willing and provides support for purchased versions.
>
> YK

Thank you for your reply.

May I ask WHY you haven't used it? It's "the best thing since sliced
bread" according to the information shown here:- https://www.clamxav.com

--
There's no such thing as a free lunch!

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by: jeremy - Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:00 UTC

In article <0001HW.26A061F30FF03A9770000BD3938F@news.supernews.com>,
akwolffan@zoho.com says...

>
> and here we go again. He never stops.
>
>
>

I was just waiting to see how/when his obsession would be injected into the
thread.

--
jeremy

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