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by: vjp2...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 00:15 UTC

My plain text dialup unix isp (and termux unix under android) has non-gui
versions of R, Octave and Maxima.

I am considering learning how to compile them under MSDOS and trying to find
out how the GUI routines were blocked. If you try to run the GUI parts of
thes eprograms on bash, you get a message they have been removed. Was this
just a minor compile-time switch or did this involved serious reprogramming.
I noticed termux has the same, so I suspect it isn't that fancy.

I got an ms-dos generic PC I used 1985-95 and am considering a notalgic
project of resurrecting it.

--
Vasos Panagiotopoulos panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---

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by: Louis Santillan (lps - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 04:05 UTC

DOS has none of the graphics facilities that things like R, Octave and
Maxima might expect (GNOME, gtk, Qt). DOS is closer to a bootloader
than a modern OS w/X11 or Win32/Windows API support. It will take
significant time to get to a graphical OS that supports numerical
packages from DOS. If you still feel like going down this route, look
at Nano-X/Microwindows with its X11 & Win32 APIs and DOS targets.
There were also Mesa, OpenGL & GRX libraries that support DOS but
folks haven't worked on those in a very long time.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 5:36 PM <vjp2.at@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com> wrote:
>
> My plain text dialup unix isp (and termux unix under android) has non-gui
> versions of R, Octave and Maxima.
>
> I am considering learning how to compile them under MSDOS and trying to find
> out how the GUI routines were blocked. If you try to run the GUI parts of
> thes eprograms on bash, you get a message they have been removed. Was this
> just a minor compile-time switch or did this involved serious reprogramming.
> I noticed termux has the same, so I suspect it isn't that fancy.
>
> I got an ms-dos generic PC I used 1985-95 and am considering a notalgic
> project of resurrecting it.
>
> --
> Vasos Panagiotopoulos panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm
> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---

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by: Stephen J. Turnbull - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 07:42 UTC

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com writes:

> My plain text dialup unix isp (and termux unix under android) has
> non-gui versions of R, Octave and Maxima.

You might want to ask them about how they did it, probably after
asking the upstream projects if they provide a way to disable GUI
features at build time.

> I am considering learning how to compile them under MSDOS

That is a good question for DJGPP (although these things are very
application-specific, so you'll get faster results if you do as much
as you can and then come ask here -- if you don't, unless there's
somebody who's been thinking about scratching that same itch, you're
just going to be told to try it and tell us what your problems are).

> and trying to find out how the GUI routines were blocked.

This is application-specific. Unless you're very lucky and somebody
has already done this (but in that case it would probably be in
contrib already), you should ask the upstream projects. They probably
have a switch to get you most of the way to the terminal-only
configuration *on a POSIX system*, but it's less and less likely over
time that you'll have out-of-the-box support for DJGPP.

I would start by getting the source code (preferably as $VC repository
clones), and running ./configure --help (or whatever the build
configuration system is) to see if there are switches to disable
inclusion of GUI features.

Good luck, and have fun!

Steve

In order to dial out, it is necessary to broaden one's dimension.

devel / comp.os.msdos.djgpp / Quant Stuff I'd like to see in djgpp

Subject	Author
Quant Stuff I'd like to see in djgpp	vjp2.at
Re: Quant Stuff I'd like to see in djgpp	Louis Santillan (lpsantil@gmail.com) [via djgpp@delorie.com]
Re: Quant Stuff I'd like to see in djgpp	vjp2.at
Re: Quant Stuff I'd like to see in djgpp	Stephen J. Turnbull (turnbull@sk.tsukuba.ac.jp) [via djgpp@delorie.com]