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* Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
`* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 +* Re: Iyonix not bootingChris Hughes
 |`* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 | +* Re: Iyonix not bootingdruck
 | |`* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 | | +* Re: Iyonix not bootingStuart
 | | |`* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 | | | `* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 | | |  `* Re: Iyonix not bootingStuart
 | | |   `* Re: Iyonix not bootingBob Latham
 | | |    `* Re: Iyonix not bootingStuart
 | | |     `- Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 | | `* Re: Iyonix not bootingTheo
 | |  +* Re: Iyonix not bootingDavid Pitt
 | |  |`- Re: Iyonix not bootingDavid Pitt
 | |  `- Re: Iyonix not bootingdruck
 | `* Re: Iyonix not bootingDavid Higton
 |  `* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 |   +* Re: Iyonix not bootingDavid Higton
 |   |`* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 |   | `- Re: Iyonix not bootingDavid Higton
 |   `* Re: Iyonix not bootingdruck
 |    `* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 |     `* Re: Iyonix not bootingdruck
 |      `- Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
 +- Re: Iyonix not bootingcharles
 `* Re: Iyonix not bootingDavid Higton
  `* Re: Iyonix not bootingTim Hill
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From: tim...@invalid.org.uk (Tim Hill)
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Subject: Iyonix not booting
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 by: Tim Hill - Sat, 22 Jan 2022 10:50 UTC

Thanks everyone for your contributions here.

Thanks to Martin, I was able to fit a new power supply but that didn't
help at first and boot still stopped in the same place. I went through
the process of removing the PCI cards one at a time again (as I had with
two other PSUs) and repeated attempts at a restart succeeded without its
PCI network card this time.

Fortunately, the motherboard ethernet i/f works and was only superceded
to reduce the amount of RF noise being emitted. A few seconds with
Configure and everything is now as right as rain.

My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card but
there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards previously hadn't
helped.

Both hard drives currently being copied to RAID NAS as I write. My lesson
here is don't backup to a drive in the same RISC OS machine as the
primary drive. Oh, and don't use only a hard space as a folder or file
name and don't ever use superscripts in app names or LanMan98 will show
you lots of misleading SMB errors.

T

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 by: Tim Hill - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 14:15 UTC

In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>,
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card but
> there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards previously hadn't
> helped.

Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study and
the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.

T.

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 by: Chris Hughes - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 14:45 UTC

In message <59b3f69aa3tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>,
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>> My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card but
>> there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards previously hadn't
>> helped.

> Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study and
> the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.

Sounds like time for a Raspberry Pi to replace the Iyonix.

--
Chris Hughes

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In article <59b3f69aa3tim@invalid.org.uk>,
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>,
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card but
> > there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards previously hadn't
> > helped.

> Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study and
> the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.

> T.

Hve you checked the power supply?

--
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 by: David Higton - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 16:57 UTC

In message <59b3f69aa3tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>,
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card but
> > there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards previously hadn't
> > helped.
>
> Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study and
> the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.

The Iyonix is known to be unduly sensitive by design to the exact supply
voltage and to temperature.

The supply voltage needs to be not just within normal tolerance, but
within a range specific to Iyonix. Dunno which rails(s) is/are to
blame, but I was glad to abandon my Iyonix years ago for something
smaller, faster, cheaper, and above all more reliable.

David

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 by: Tim Hill - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:05 UTC

In article <3655f9b359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <59b3f69aa3tim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
> wrote:

> > In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> > <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> >> My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card
> >> but there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards
> >> previously hadn't helped.

> > Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study
> > and the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.

> Sounds like time for a Raspberry Pi to replace the Iyonix.

I'm already using a Pi3 alongside it. The Iyonix' main use was to run
Webjames which doesn't seem stable on anything newer.

T

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 by: Tim Hill - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:40 UTC

In article <926605b459.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton
<dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <59b3f69aa3tim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
> wrote:

> > In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> > <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > > My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card
> > > but there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards
> > > previously hadn't helped.
> >
> > Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study
> > and the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.

> The Iyonix is known to be unduly sensitive by design to the exact
> supply voltage and to temperature.

> The supply voltage needs to be not just within normal tolerance, but
> within a range specific to Iyonix. Dunno which rails(s) is/are to
> blame, but I was glad to abandon my Iyonix years ago for something
> smaller, faster, cheaper, and above all more reliable.

Yes, I think it may be destined for recycling. To be fair, it's been
running non-stop almost since new.

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 by: druck - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 21:13 UTC

On 01/02/2022 17:05, Tim Hill wrote:
> In article <3655f9b359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
>> Sounds like time for a Raspberry Pi to replace the Iyonix.
>
> I'm already using a Pi3 alongside it. The Iyonix' main use was to run
> Webjames which doesn't seem stable on anything newer.

I recommend getting a Pi 4B to run RISC OS, it vastly faster than the
Iyonix, and a good 3-4x as fast as the 3B. Put Raspbian on the 3B and
use it to run a proper web server such as apache or nginx instead of
WebJames.

---druck

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 by: druck - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 21:16 UTC

On 01/02/2022 17:40, Tim Hill wrote:
> In article <926605b459.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton
> <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> but I was glad to abandon my Iyonix years ago for something
>> smaller, faster, cheaper, and above all more reliable.
>
> Yes, I think it may be destined for recycling. To be fair, it's been
> running non-stop almost since new.

Mine was pretty reliable, but it was time for it to leave home when it
was 18 years old. Got a good few quid for it on e-bay too.

---druck

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 by: Tim Hill - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:36 UTC

In article <stc7qj$42h$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 01/02/2022 17:05, Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <3655f9b359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> >> Sounds like time for a Raspberry Pi to replace the Iyonix.
> >
> > I'm already using a Pi3 alongside it. The Iyonix' main use was to run
> > Webjames which doesn't seem stable on anything newer.

> I recommend getting a Pi 4B to run RISC OS, it vastly faster than the
> Iyonix, and a good 3-4x as fast as the 3B. Put Raspbian on the 3B and
> use it to run a proper web server such as apache or nginx instead of
> WebJames.

Thanks and, oh, how you read my mind.

Can't find a Pi4B in stock! Anyone got a spare?!?

Raspbian on the Pi2 upgraded and Nginx with PHP up and running.

Have to say: the new Raspberry Pi Imager is a great piece of software and
makes burning uSD cards as simple as pi.

T

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 by: Stuart - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 13:07 UTC

In article <59b466700etim@invalid.org.uk>,
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> I recommend getting a Pi 4B to run RISC OS, it vastly faster than the
> > Iyonix, and a good 3-4x as fast as the 3B. Put Raspbian on the 3B and
> > use it to run a proper web server such as apache or nginx instead of
> > WebJames.

> Thanks and, oh, how you read my mind.

> Can't find a Pi4B in stock! Anyone got a spare?!?

> Raspbian on the Pi2 upgraded and Nginx with PHP up and running.

> Have to say: the new Raspberry Pi Imager is a great piece of software and
> makes burning uSD cards as simple as pi.

Get yourself a FOURTress

http://www.pihard.co.uk/shop.htm

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

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 by: David Higton - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:56 UTC

In message <59b4062bebtim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <3655f9b359.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <59b3f69aa3tim@invalid.org.uk> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > > In article <59aebd7ed2tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> > > <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > > > My concern is that there's nothing wrong with the network i/f card
> > > > but there's a fault on the motherboard. Removing PCI cards previously
> > > > hadn't helped.
>
> > > Update: another morning wasted. Re-siting the iyonix back in my study
> > > and the same fault has re-appeared and it won't effing boot again.
>
> > Sounds like time for a Raspberry Pi to replace the Iyonix.
>
> I'm already using a Pi3 alongside it. The Iyonix' main use was to run
> Webjames which doesn't seem stable on anything newer.

That's funny. I run WebJames as the web server for my heating control
system, on a headless RasPi, but in fairness it's either a 1 or a 2 (I
can't remember).

After a bit of ferreting about on the WWW, I think you may be referring
to the 2007 version of WebJames. I'm running the 2013 version, but there
is also a 2016 version (of the RunImage, in both cases). Guess what I'm
about to try...

David

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 by: Tim Hill - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 18:20 UTC

In article <59b4744077Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> Get yourself a FOURTress

> http://www.pihard.co.uk/shop.htm

Sadly not. I already have those things that come as 'extras' from
previous Pies.

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 by: Tim Hill - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 18:40 UTC

In article <79b283b459.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton
<dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> > I'm already using a Pi3 alongside it. The Iyonix' main use was to run
> > Webjames which doesn't seem stable on anything newer.

> That's funny. I run WebJames as the web server for my heating control
> system, on a headless RasPi, but in fairness it's either a 1 or a 2 (I
> can't remember).

[s]

Yes, it used to run on an old Pi with an oldish version of RISC OS but
seems not to like later versions than about 5.18 which is why it's still
on my old Iyonix.

It's better than Nginx though, which is slower and can't cope with
includes when PHP files don't have a .php extension. I wonder how much
more time I will spend trawling "bulletin boards" trying to find a
solution that works?

> After a bit of ferreting about on the WWW, I think you may be referring
> to the 2007 version of WebJames. I'm running the 2013 version, but
> there is also a 2016 version (of the RunImage, in both cases). Guess
> what I'm about to try...

I think I have tried every version I could find but may try again on a
fresh install of 5.28 on the Pi if I can't overcome the extension issue
with nginx or Apache.

T

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 by: David Higton - Wed, 2 Feb 2022 22:57 UTC

In message <59b492ac95tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <79b283b459.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton
> <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> > > I'm already using a Pi3 alongside it. The Iyonix' main use was to run
> > > Webjames which doesn't seem stable on anything newer.
>
> > That's funny. I run WebJames as the web server for my heating control
> > system, on a headless RasPi, but in fairness it's either a 1 or a 2 (I
> > can't remember).
>
> [s]
>
> Yes, it used to run on an old Pi with an oldish version of RISC OS but
> seems not to like later versions than about 5.18 which is why it's still on
> my old Iyonix.
>
> It's better than Nginx though, which is slower and can't cope with includes
> when PHP files don't have a .php extension. I wonder how much more time I
> will spend trawling "bulletin boards" trying to find a solution that works?
>
> > After a bit of ferreting about on the WWW, I think you may be referring
> > to the 2007 version of WebJames. I'm running the 2013 version, but there
> > is also a 2016 version (of the RunImage, in both cases). Guess what I'm
> > about to try...
>
> I think I have tried every version I could find but may try again on a
> fresh install of 5.28 on the Pi if I can't overcome the extension issue
> with nginx or Apache.

My WebJames is running on RO 5.29 from last April (I really should
update it, but if it ain't broke...) but I don't use PHP. All my
HTML is generated by BASIC.

David

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 by: Theo - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 11:23 UTC

Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> Can't find a Pi4B in stock! Anyone got a spare?!?

https://rpilocator.com/

(there was some Pi4 stock available yesterday, seemingly not today. Keep
clicking refresh, or watch their Twitter)

Theo

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 by: Tim Hill - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:31 UTC

In article <ff32aab459.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> My WebJames is running on RO 5.29 from last April (I really should
> update it, but if it ain't broke...) but I don't use PHP. All my
> HTML is generated by BASIC.

On the fly in some way, or do you create them first and then serve static
pages?

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 by: David Pitt - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:47 UTC

Theo, on 3 Feb, wrote:

> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > Can't find a Pi4B in stock! Anyone got a spare?!?
>
> https://rpilocator.com/
>
> (there was some Pi4 stock available yesterday, seemingly not today. Keep
> clicking refresh, or watch their Twitter)

https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b

--
David Pitt

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 by: David Pitt - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 19:10 UTC

David Pitt, on 3 Feb, wrote:

> Theo, on 3 Feb, wrote:
>
> > Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Can't find a Pi4B in stock! Anyone got a spare?!?
> >
> > https://rpilocator.com/
> >
> > (there was some Pi4 stock available yesterday, seemingly not today. Keep
> > clicking refresh, or watch their Twitter)
>
> https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b

And running out quickly, now only 17 left.

--
David Pitt

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In message <59b4fa35d4tim@invalid.org.uk>
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> In article <ff32aab459.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> > My WebJames is running on RO 5.29 from last April (I really should update
> > it, but if it ain't broke...) but I don't use PHP. All my HTML is
> > generated by BASIC.
>
> On the fly in some way, or do you create them first and then serve static
> pages?

On the fly.

David

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 by: druck - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:50 UTC

On 02/02/2022 18:40, Tim Hill wrote:
> Yes, it used to run on an old Pi with an oldish version of RISC OS but
> seems not to like later versions than about 5.18 which is why it's still
> on my old Iyonix.
>
> It's better than Nginx though, which is slower and can't cope with
> includes when PHP files don't have a .php extension. I wonder how much
> more time I will spend trawling "bulletin boards" trying to find a
> solution that works?

I hate to say this, but if WebJames in BASIC on RISC OS is faster than
nginx on Linux, you are doing something wrong.

What is the issue adding a .php extension? If you've got your mimemap
set up, it should automatically gain the extension when copied from RISC OS.

---druck

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 by: Tim Hill - Sat, 5 Feb 2022 14:24 UTC

In article <stk3ir$b9n$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 02/02/2022 18:40, Tim Hill wrote:
> > Yes, it used to run on an old Pi with an oldish version of RISC OS
> > but seems not to like later versions than about 5.18 which is why
> > it's still on my old Iyonix.
> >
> > It's better than Nginx though, which is slower and can't cope with
> > includes when PHP files don't have a .php extension. I wonder how
> > much more time I will spend trawling "bulletin boards" trying to find
> > a solution that works?

> I hate to say this, but if WebJames in BASIC on RISC OS is faster than
> nginx on Linux, you are doing something wrong.

I did wonder but it's okay once it's woken up. There's a definite lag if
it hasn't been used for a while. Often it's just the first page that
seems slow. Perhaps it's the interaction with the NAS.

> What is the issue adding a .php extension? If you've got your mimemap
> set up, it should automatically gain the extension when copied from
> RISC OS.

Yes, please ignore me. It had slipped my mind that the Linux Pi was
looking at the files with SMB which meant, of course (duh!) that many of
those PHP include() files without an .ext have RISC OS filetypes appended
which neither !Webjames nor !Sitematch nor therefore my ISP's server can
see. I knew that "leafname" and "leafname,nnn" being 'identical' would
catch me out one day and here we are.

Settyping them as text (for which my mimemap file does not append any
,nnn RISC OS filetype on alien filesystems) has solved the problem. I
think I was misled by what seemed quite a few people online having
problems using files without extensions with nginx; wanting to use just
'index' for example. A rabbit-hole of obscure, contradictory and
sometimes plain wrong nginx incantations I could have done without.

I did change one microsite by editing a couple of scripts and by adding
/php to 32 extensionless files with !Rename but it was easier with
another 428 .ext-less files not to change the scripts that include them.
Found using !Locate and a simple iconbar tool of my own based on a file
stamper, it took just two searches and two mouse drags and I fixed ten
web sites. :-)

Thanks everyone for you input on this topic. A FOURtress should arrive
next week. The Pi3 I'm using right now will host the web server (on the
back of a big telly where it can also be used for browsing) and the Pi2
can have its uSD card socket replaced! Who knows? I may even get the
Iyonix going again one day.

T

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 by: druck - Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:17 UTC

On 03/02/2022 11:23, Theo wrote:
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>> Can't find a Pi4B in stock! Anyone got a spare?!?
>
> https://rpilocator.com/
>
> (there was some Pi4 stock available yesterday, seemingly not today. Keep
> clicking refresh, or watch their Twitter)

Nothing in the UK and only 1 compute module in China!

At least now after Christmas used Pi's are appearing on ebay again. Pi
4Bs and Zero 2Ws go for silly money, but 3Bs and 3B+s are more
reasonable and often have a case or charger included.

---druck

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 by: druck - Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:24 UTC

On 05/02/2022 14:24, Tim Hill wrote:
> In article <stk3ir$b9n$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>> I hate to say this, but if WebJames in BASIC on RISC OS is faster than
>> nginx on Linux, you are doing something wrong.
>
> I did wonder but it's okay once it's woken up. There's a definite lag if
> it hasn't been used for a while. Often it's just the first page that
> seems slow. Perhaps it's the interaction with the NAS.

If your NAS has hard drives which spin down, the there will be a second
or too delay, so I would not serve files from there. If you haven't
already, get a small SSD for the Pi to use as the boot disc and web store.

---druck

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 by: Tim Hill - Sun, 6 Feb 2022 21:50 UTC

In article <stp08r$ia3$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 05/02/2022 14:24, Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <stk3ir$b9n$1@dont-email.me>, druck <news@druck.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> I hate to say this, but if WebJames in BASIC on RISC OS is faster
> >> than nginx on Linux, you are doing something wrong.
> >
> > I did wonder but it's okay once it's woken up. There's a definite lag
> > if it hasn't been used for a while. Often it's just the first page
> > that seems slow. Perhaps it's the interaction with the NAS.

> If your NAS has hard drives which spin down, the there will be a second
> or too delay, so I would not serve files from there. If you haven't
> already, get a small SSD for the Pi to use as the boot disc and web
> store.

Things are better now. I think the NAS was doing its own housekeeping.
These WD My Cloud things seem to spend lots of time making thumbnails and
catalogues (for the Cloud app which allows remote access) after you've
dumped a bunch of stuff on it, just as a media server does but worse.

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