On 1/19/2023 7:57 AM, JAB wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 02:31:52 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>> The Samsung charger is both.
>>
>> It is not. Or at least Samsung never states that their chargers support QC.
>>
>> I've added to the document to explain that the Apple and Samsung
>> chargers are USB-PD only.
>>
>> I added references to three chargers that are USB-C PD/QC.
>
> I apologize for being wrong on the charger.
> And I appreciate that you are adding that charger data to your spreadsheet.
>
> I will accept that you are right, especially since I had assumed without
> checking myself that the Apple charger was PD and the Samsung was PD/QC.
>
> What I knew was the Samsung supports both and when I checked in the Florida
> store badgolferman selected they emphatically told me their Samsung charger
> fit the phone's charging specs to charge the phone to half in half an hour.
>
> Therein lies the danger of me making that assumption, even though it's
> fully correct that Samsung supports both and the iPhone only supports PD.
> https://switchchargers.com/best-fast-chargers-samsung-galaxy-s/
>
> Moving forward, it makes no sense for a buyer to purchase a charger that
> only supports half the standards, which makes both chargers infeasible.

Perhaps, but AFAIK, nearly all new name-brand Android devices are now
USB-C PD. Remember, you were saying that most people that buy a phone at
a carrier's store will also buy a charger there (if they buy a charger
at all). It's unlikely that any carrier store employee will tell them to
buy a charger somewhere else so it will also work with a device that
they probably don't own or never use if they do own it.

Personally, I have both a flagship Android device and a mid-range
iPhone. I got the flagship Android device because I wanted a phone with
a very good camera, and the Pixel 7 Pro camera has definite advantages
over the iPhone 14 Pro Max camera.

The other major reason I chose the Pixel 7 Pro was the lack of a
physical SIM card on the iPhone 14 Pro Max—that was an absolute
deal-breaker because I travel a lot outside the U.S. (or used to
pre-pandemic and plan to again) and it’s much better, and cheaper, to be
able to buy a local SIM card (that may change someday, but right now,
nearly every foreign eSIM card is data-only and you don’t get a phone
number in the country or region you’re traveling in).

Lightning versus USB-C was another factor, though not a major one, as
was the lack of a fingerprint reader. The Pixel 7 Pro disadvantage was
minor: no HDMI out (there is a workaround, but shame on Google for
disabling that feature).

When I buy a big-ticket item my goal is not to give the manufacturer as
much money as possible. Apple, Samsung, and Google have plenty of money.
I’d rather give less to them, or to a carrier, have more money to spend
foolishly on bicycles, travel, dining, whatever. But I realize that many
people are not cost-sensitive and just don't care.

sms wrote:

> There's another big issue with wired charging as well, one that you
> personally have run into with iPhones (and my son ran into as well):
> failure of the Lightning port as the result of two many cycles of
> insertion/removal, or other stress. This is the third biggest repair on
> iPhones after screen replacement and battery replacement and is so
> expensive that most people just trade in their phone.

Am I the only intelligent adult on this newsgroup or not?

Did anyone else notice that what Steve said above DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS
virtually everything Steve _previously said_ about total ownership cost?

Point 1: Steve ignored repairs in his total ownership cost spreadsheet.
Point 2: Steve said Android costs were higher than iPhone costs.
Point 3: And yet, for repairs, Steve implies iPhone repair costs are high.

So high, that people trade in their iPhones instead of fixing them.

Is it just me or are there any other intelligent adults on this ng who also
notice that virtually everything from either the iKooks or Steve directly
contradicts their own (usually lame) excuses they've used in the past when
they're desperately fabricating nonsensical excuses for Apple products?

On 2023-01-22 09:57, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>> There's another big issue with wired charging as well, one that you
>> personally have run into with iPhones (and my son ran into as well):
>> failure of the Lightning port as the result of two many cycles of
>> insertion/removal, or other stress. This is the third biggest repair
>> on iPhones after screen replacement and battery replacement and is so
>> expensive that most people just trade in their phone.
>
> Am I the only intelligent adult on this newsgroup or not?
>
> Did anyone else notice...

....that you insist on posting the same bullshit multiple times?

In article <tqjtdk$1dc5$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> Am I the only intelligent adult on this newsgroup or not?

do not ask a question for which you do not want to hear the answer.