Hi,

the following works in XeLaTeX as expected:

\documentclass[british]{scrbook}

\usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
%\usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands

\newcommand{\Name}[1]{\textsc{#1}} % proper names

\begin{document}

\chapter{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[1]
\section{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[2]
\subsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[3]
\subsubsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[4]
\paragraph{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[5]

\end{document}

If, however, I un-comment the call of fontspec, the names are no longer
in small caps (except in the living header, funnily enough). How can I
get this to work in the presence of fontspec (which, unfortunately, I
need for other things to work).

Thanks in advance

Engelbert

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Am Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:09:37 +0200 schrieb Dr Engelbert Buxbaum:

> Hi,
>
> the following works in XeLaTeX as expected:
>
> \documentclass[british]{scrbook}
>
> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> %\usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
>
> \newcommand{\Name}[1]{\textsc{#1}} % proper names
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \chapter{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[1]
> \section{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[2]
> \subsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[3]
> \subsubsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[4]
> \paragraph{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[5]
>
> \end{document}
>
> If, however, I un-comment the call of fontspec, the names are no longer
> in small caps (except in the living header, funnily enough). How can I
> get this to work in the presence of fontspec (which, unfortunately, I
> need for other things to work).

You are changing the font family to the latin modern fonts by
loading fontspec, and they don't have a bold small caps. If you want
to use the kpfonts you could do something like that

\documentclass[british]{scrbook}

\usepackage{lipsum,iftex}
\iftutex
\usepackage{kpfonts}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\else
\usepackage{kpfonts-otf}% font selecting commands
\fi
\newcommand{\Name}[1]{\textsc{#1}} % proper names

\begin{document}

\chapter{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[1]
\section{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[2]
\subsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[3]
\subsubsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[4]
\paragraph{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
\lipsum[5]

\end{document}

--
Ulrike Fischer
https://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/

On 2021-06-18 15:09:37 +0000, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum said:

> Hi,
>
> the following works in XeLaTeX as expected:
>
> \documentclass[british]{scrbook}
>
> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> %\usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
>
> \newcommand{\Name}[1]{\textsc{#1}} % proper names
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \chapter{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[1]
> \section{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[2]
> \subsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[3]
> \subsubsection{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[4]
> \paragraph{The \Name{Henri}-equation}
> \lipsum[5]
>
> \end{document}
>
> If, however, I un-comment the call of fontspec, the names are no longer
> in small caps (except in the living header, funnily enough). How can I
> get this to work in the presence of fontspec (which, unfortunately, I
> need for other things to work).
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Engelbert

Not a LaTeX question, but what are you calling The
\Name{Henri}-equation? Not what I call the Henri equation, I suppose
[A. Cornish-Bowden, J.-P. Mazat & S. Nicolas (2014) “Victor Henri: 111
years of his equation” Biochimie 107, 161–166].

--
Athel -- British, living in France for 34 years

On 18/06/2021 16:09, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the following works in XeLaTeX as expected:
>
> \documentclass[british]{scrbook}

LaTeX Warning: Unused global option(s):
[british].

> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> %\usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
[...]
> If, however, I un-comment the call of fontspec,

I didn't think you could use fontenc and fontspec in the same document,
but apparently you can, although the order is important:

\usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}

See answer #1 to
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/115627/how-do-i-use-kpfonts-with-fontspec

Peter

In article <ij48isFua6aU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
says...
> what are you calling the \Name{Henri}-equation? Not what I call the
> Henri equation, I suppose [A. Cornish-Bowden, J.-P. Mazat & S. Nicolas
> (2014) ?Victor Henri: 111 years of his equation? Biochimie 107,
> 161?166].

"Henri-equation" is nowadays used for the integrated form of the HMM-
equation. The latter I insisted on calling thus (despite flak from
reviewers) since I read Kuzmic's 1998 translation of Henri's 1902 paper
(unfortunately no longer available on the Biokin web-site).

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display terminals (VDTs) - Part 13: User guidance
9.5.3 Error messages should convey what is wrong, what corrective
actions can be taken, and the cause of the error.

In article <1ns0wyjtfa2ug.dlg@nililand.de>, news3@nililand.de says...
> You are changing the font family to the latin modern fonts by
> loading fontspec, and they don't have a bold small caps. If you want
> to use the kpfonts you could do something like that
>
> \documentclass[british]{scrbook}
>
> \usepackage{lipsum,iftex}
> \iftutex
> \usepackage{kpfonts}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \else
> \usepackage{kpfonts-otf}% font selecting commands
> \fi

For the minimal example, this works, thanks. However, in real life I do
need fontspec (for switching to a programmer's font -- Fantasque Sans
Mono -- in listings, this was my reason to switch from pdfLaTeX to
XeTeX). And as base-font, switching from kp to something else would
break a lot of things in my texts.

--
DIN EN ISO 9241 Ergonomic requirements for office work with visual
display terminals (VDTs) - Part 13: User guidance
9.5.3 Error messages should convey what is wrong, what corrective
actions can be taken, and the cause of the error.

Am 20.06.21 um 18:28 schrieb Dr Engelbert Buxbaum:
> In article <1ns0wyjtfa2ug.dlg@nililand.de>, news3@nililand.de says...
>> \documentclass[british]{scrbook}
>>
>> \usepackage{lipsum,iftex}
>> \iftutex
>> \usepackage{kpfonts}
>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>> \else
>> \usepackage{kpfonts-otf}% font selecting commands
>> \fi
>
> For the minimal example, this works, thanks. However, in real life I do
> need fontspec (for switching to a programmer's font -- Fantasque Sans
> Mono -- in listings, this was my reason to switch from pdfLaTeX to
> XeTeX). And as base-font, switching from kp to something else would
> break a lot of things in my texts.

kpfonts-otf does use fontspec. Have a look at chapter 2 of its
documentation for more finegrained control.

HTH,
Julius Dittmar

Am Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:43:22 +0100 schrieb Peter Flynn:

> \usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
>

You don't want this with xelatex. This uses the wrong font encoding,
and this break non-ascii and hyphenation.

Try e.g.

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
\begin{document}
Grüße
\end{document}

--
Ulrike Fischer
https://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/

Am Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:28:37 +0200 schrieb Dr Engelbert Buxbaum:

> However, in real life I do
> need fontspec (for switching to a programmer's font -- Fantasque Sans
> Mono -- in listings, this was my reason to switch from pdfLaTeX to
> XeTeX)

Did you try?

\usepackage{kpfonts-otf} loads fontspec (it needs it too to setup
the otf fonts it refers too in its package name).

--
Ulrike Fischer
https://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/

On 20/06/2021 22:09, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> Am Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:43:22 +0100 schrieb Peter Flynn:
>
>> \usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
>>
>
> You don't want this with xelatex. This uses the wrong font encoding,
> and this break non-ascii and hyphenation.
>
> Try e.g.
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
> \begin{document}
> Grüße
> \end{document}

But that is the same as what I wrote. Or did I miss something in between?

P

Am Sun, 20 Jun 2021 22:51:35 +0100 schrieb Peter Flynn:

>> Try e.g.
>>
>> \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage{fontspec}
>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
>> \begin{document}
>> Grüße
>> \end{document}
>
> But that is the same as what I wrote. Or did I miss something in between?

That is an example why it is a bad idea. Try it out to see the
problem.

--
Ulrike Fischer
http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/

On 2021-06-20 16:28:37 +0000, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum said:

> In article <ij48isFua6aU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
>> what are you calling the \Name{Henri}-equation? Not what I call the
>> Henri equation, I suppose [A. Cornish-Bowden, J.-P. Mazat & S. Nicolas
>> (2014) ?Victor Henri: 111 years of his equation? Biochimie 107,
>> 161?166].
>
> "Henri-equation" is nowadays used for the integrated form of the HMM-
> equation. The latter I insisted on calling thus (despite flak from
> reviewers) since I read Kuzmic's 1998 translation of Henri's 1902 paper
> (unfortunately no longer available on the Biokin web-site).

No, but you can find a translation of his thesis on my web site:
http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/HenriEng.pdf. I mention Edgar Morin in the
Introduction: I saw him, now aged 100, on television the other day. He
is in excellent condition, with his brain in full working order.

OK, but you've answered my question: your Henri is indeed my Henri. I
visited his birthplace (not far from where I live) once. The ground
floor of what in the 1870s was an elegant house for rich people is now
a bookshop, and the upper floors have been converted into flats. The
owners of the shop had never heard of Victor Henri. I suggested that
they ask the city to put up a plaque, but I don't suppose they did.

I'm not sure if I ever saw Petr Kuzmic's translation of the 1902 paper.

--
Athel -- British, living in France for 34 years

On 21/06/2021 08:39, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> That is an example why it is a bad idea. Try it out to see the
> problem.

Sorry, I misunderstood why you were suggesting it.
The MWE worked without error, so I didn't investigate further.

P

In article <ij8nuqFpo3rU1@mid.individual.net>, peter@silmaril.ie says...

> I didn't think you could use fontenc and fontspec in the same document,
> but apparently you can, although the order is important:
>
> \usepackage{fontspec}% font selecting commands
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage{lipsum,kpfonts}
>
> See answer #1 to
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/115627/how-do-i-use-kpfonts-with-fontspec
>
> Peter

Thanks, that works.

--
DIN EN ISO 9241 Ergonomic requirements for office work with visual
display terminals (VDTs) - Part 13: User guidance
9.5.3 Error messages should convey what is wrong, what corrective
actions can be taken, and the cause of the error.

In article <ijavnsF895rU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
says...

> No, but you can find a translation of his thesis on my web site:
> http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/HenriEng.pdf.

Interesting, thanks. Btw: this site now produces a browser-warning,
because it is http, not https. See https://letsencrypt.org/ how to
rectify that.

> I'm not sure if I ever saw Petr Kuzmic's translation of the 1902
> paper.

I still have a printout, if you are interested PM me for a scan. I tried
to find the original paper on the Gallica-site, but failed. Shame,
really.

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DIN EN ISO 9241 Ergonomic requirements for office work with visual
display terminals (VDTs) - Part 13: User guidance
9.5.3 Error messages should convey what is wrong, what corrective
actions can be taken, and the cause of the error.

On 2021-06-24 10:18:28 +0000, Dr Engelbert Buxbaum said:

> In article <ijavnsF895rU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
>
>> No, but you can find a translation of his thesis on my web site:
>> http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/HenriEng.pdf.
>
> Interesting, thanks. Btw: this site now produces a browser-warning,
> because it is http, not https. See https://letsencrypt.org/ how to
> rectify that.

I guess you're using Google Chrome, but maybe there are other browsers
now that make such a fuss about http. I'm getting too old to bother
with obeying Google's orders.

Every time I try to access Web of Science Chrome tells me that it can't
be reached, possibly because it is down or moved permanently to another
address. What it fails to add is that the most likely reason is that
Chrome is pissing about, and that if I wait half a minute then it will
find that it can reach it.
>
>> I'm not sure if I ever saw Petr Kuzmic's translation of the 1902
>> paper.
>
> I still have a printout, if you are interested PM me for a scan. I tried
> to find the original paper on the Gallica-site, but failed. Shame,
> really.

Yes, I'm interested, but I'm not sure what "PM" means. Anyway, if you
send one to acornish@imm.cnrs.fr or athel.cb@gmail.com I'll be very
grateful.

--
Athel -- British, living in France for 34 years

In article <ijjg3dFrsgkU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
says...
> I guess you're using Google Chrome, but maybe there are other browsers
> now that make such a fuss about http. I'm getting too old to bother
> with obeying Google's orders.

No, this now happens with all correctly configured browsers and is
supposed to prevent two forms of computer crime:
- people presenting themselfs on the internet as somebody else
(spoofing). At least, the perps must now have the electronic key of the
person they want to represent as.
- End-to-end encryptation ensures that somebody bugging my line gets
only gibberish, and can no longer tell which info I get from the web
sites I visit. I also configured my browser to use encrypting DNS
servers, so they can't even tell which web site I am accessing.

If you read German, the current issue of ct (14/2021) contains detailed
info on the how to configure browsers for safety, and the why. The good
old times, when the internet was a communication medium for scientist
(who were considered implicitly trustworthy!?) are, alas, over.

> > I still have a printout, if you are interested PM me for a scan. I
tried
> > to find the original paper on the Gallica-site, but failed. Shame,
> > really.
>
> Yes, I'm interested, but I'm not sure what "PM" means. Anyway, if you
> send one to acornish@imm.cnrs.fr or athel.cb@gmail.com I'll be very
> grateful.

PM is private mail. You should have it in your inbox.

--
DIN EN ISO 9241 Ergonomic requirements for office work with visual
display terminals (VDTs) - Part 13: User guidance
9.5.3 Error messages should convey what is wrong, what corrective
actions can be taken, and the cause of the error.