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 by: Ant - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 19:55 UTC

In comp.sys.mac.apps Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <9f-dncK4gdGiZ3r9nZ2dnUU7-WudnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.software Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> > ...
> >> Ah...

> >> 1 stick files in subdirectories, not all in one directory.

> > My elder client loves to stuff everything in ~/Documents including
> > images, audios, and videos. I told him not to do that. He doesn't
> > listen. :(

> He's right. There is no reason other than one's own sense of
> organization, tp specialize folders. You can certainly put all your data
> into a single folder if that is what works for you.

> The main exception was, though I think no longer is, the Desktop folder
> where having too many items on it would cause various annoyances and
> slow-downs.

He doesn't stuff everything into his desktop for sure since he gets confused with his cluttered desktop. :)

> Despite the advice, using sub folders will not make the slightest impact
> on Spotlight.

Ah, OK.

> >> 2 check your system; Spotlight isn???t supposed to lose files unless
> >> there???s a directory problem. Run Disk Utility.

> > Disk Utility app found no problems in SSD and all of its default partitions.

> I suspect the issue it the Office.mdimporter file, since it is office
> files that seem to be the issue.

According to
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2009100219405524,
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/msoffice_outlook-mso_mac-mso_mac2011/outlook-2011-spotlight-not-working-mud-folder/3f7a8a3b-143e-472e-838f-c269da4f70e2.
etc. (outdated though), /Library has Spotlight, but there is no
Spotlight subdirectory. I also checked local ~/Library). I forgot to
mention that Office is v16.50 (365 subscription from USC.edu).
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7368240 mentioned putting HD (SSD
in my case) into Spotlight's preferences' privacy tab to remove all and
reindex all beside ~/Documents. Now, I need to wait for Spotlight to
reindex ALL datas in this account. :(

> > We will try that when it's really bad. We do use Time Machine with
> > external HDDs. I am sure the physical SSD is fine. I wonder if the
> > Chinese documents, since Windows 98 days, are messing up Spotlight
> > index.

> That makes me suspect the Office.mdimporter even more.

So, what should I try with it? What do I run in Terminal with it if
reindexing all of my client's datas doesn't work?

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 by: Lewis - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 22:50 UTC

In message <Pq-dnavmp5EHNHX9nZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.apps Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> That makes me suspect the Office.mdimporter even more.

> So, what should I try with it? What do I run in Terminal with it if
> reindexing all of my client's datas doesn't work?

I have no advice on that as I do not use MS Word at all and have not for
many many years. My word processing needs are nearly-non existent, and
for the few documents I need to "word process" I will generally use
Pages, or if it is simple, markdown -> HMTL.

I *detest* all versions of Word after 5.1 (Mac), and that version does
not run on any OS in the last 20+ years.

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 by: Lewis - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 22:51 UTC

In message <090720210914587802%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnsegifm.1il6.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>> > My elder client loves to stuff everything in ~/Documents including
>> > images, audios, and videos. I told him not to do that. He doesn't
>> > listen. :(
>>
>> He's right. There is no reason other than one's own sense of
>> organization, tp specialize folders. You can certainly put all your data
>> into a single folder if that is what works for you.
>>
>> The main exception was, though I think no longer is, the Desktop folder
>> where having too many items on it would cause various annoyances and
>> slow-downs.

> that hasn't been an issue since at least as far back as tiger/10.4 or
> panther/10.3 (don't remember exactly when) and macs which had
> relatively small amounts of memory.

I thought I remembered someone having issues in Lion in this group, but
it was thousands of files on the desktop. I could be misremembering.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:25 UTC

In article <slrnsehkn7.2js5.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> >> > My elder client loves to stuff everything in ~/Documents including
> >> > images, audios, and videos. I told him not to do that. He doesn't
> >> > listen. :(
> >>
> >> He's right. There is no reason other than one's own sense of
> >> organization, tp specialize folders. You can certainly put all your data
> >> into a single folder if that is what works for you.
> >>
> >> The main exception was, though I think no longer is, the Desktop folder
> >> where having too many items on it would cause various annoyances and
> >> slow-downs.
>
> > that hasn't been an issue since at least as far back as tiger/10.4 or
> > panther/10.3 (don't remember exactly when) and macs which had
> > relatively small amounts of memory.
>
> I thought I remembered someone having issues in Lion in this group, but
> it was thousands of files on the desktop. I could be misremembering.

thousands of files in *any* folder is going to cause problems.

the problem with desktop icons in early versions of mac os x was that
each icon was implemented as a small window, which has its own backing
store. that's a lot of memory for simply having an icon on the desktop.

since macs back then didn't have much memory and the the cpus had to
redraw each 'window', things quickly became sluggish. those who had a
lot of desktop icons ended up thrashing fairly quickly, and adding to
that, hard drives back then weren't that fast.

but as i said, that hasn't been a problem since at least 10.3 or 10.4.

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 by: Ant - Sat, 10 Jul 2021 04:41 UTC

In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <Pq-dnavmp5EHNHX9nZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.apps Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> >> That makes me suspect the Office.mdimporter even more.

> > So, what should I try with it? What do I run in Terminal with it if
> > reindexing all of my client's datas doesn't work?

> I have no advice on that as I do not use MS Word at all and have not for
> many many years. My word processing needs are nearly-non existent, and
> for the few documents I need to "word process" I will generally use
> Pages, or if it is simple, markdown -> HMTL.

> I *detest* all versions of Word after 5.1 (Mac), and that version does
> not run on any OS in the last 20+ years.

Alright. Thanks anyways! At least, you gave more ideas. :)
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In comp.sys.mac.software Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
....
> mention that Office is v16.50 (365 subscription from USC.edu).
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7368240 mentioned putting HD (SSD
> in my case) into Spotlight's preferences' privacy tab to remove all and
> reindex all beside ~/Documents. Now, I need to wait for Spotlight to
> reindex ALL datas in this account. :(

OK, it looks like Spotlight reindexed the whole 2 TB SSD (.36 TB
used/1.64 TB free). I noticed Spotlight's searches revealed way more
search hits in "HD". Documents folder's results were the same. Let's
hope this stays this way and not miss any like before.
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 by: Lewis - Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:42 UTC

In message <090720211925359730%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnsehkn7.2js5.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>> >> > My elder client loves to stuff everything in ~/Documents including
>> >> > images, audios, and videos. I told him not to do that. He doesn't
>> >> > listen. :(
>> >>
>> >> He's right. There is no reason other than one's own sense of
>> >> organization, tp specialize folders. You can certainly put all your data
>> >> into a single folder if that is what works for you.
>> >>
>> >> The main exception was, though I think no longer is, the Desktop folder
>> >> where having too many items on it would cause various annoyances and
>> >> slow-downs.
>>
>> > that hasn't been an issue since at least as far back as tiger/10.4 or
>> > panther/10.3 (don't remember exactly when) and macs which had
>> > relatively small amounts of memory.
>>
>> I thought I remembered someone having issues in Lion in this group, but
>> it was thousands of files on the desktop. I could be misremembering.

> thousands of files in *any* folder is going to cause problems.

Not on a modern machine/OS it doesn't. There are 37,336 files in a
single folder in my Documents folder. The only issue is that the first
time I open that folder, it takes about 10-20 seconds to load the Finder
window.

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>
That's sad.

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In article <slrnsejcf8.2iu1.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> >> I thought I remembered someone having issues in Lion in this group, but
> >> it was thousands of files on the desktop. I could be misremembering.
>
> > thousands of files in *any* folder is going to cause problems.
>
> Not on a modern machine/OS it doesn't. There are 37,336 files in a
> single folder in my Documents folder. The only issue is that the first
> time I open that folder, it takes about 10-20 seconds to load the Finder
> window.

10-20 seconds to open a window would be considered to be a problem.

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 by: Lewis - Sat, 10 Jul 2021 18:57 UTC

In message <100720211432209073%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnsejcf8.2iu1.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>> >> I thought I remembered someone having issues in Lion in this group, but
>> >> it was thousands of files on the desktop. I could be misremembering.
>>
>> > thousands of files in *any* folder is going to cause problems.
>>
>> Not on a modern machine/OS it doesn't. There are 37,336 files in a
>> single folder in my Documents folder. The only issue is that the first
>> time I open that folder, it takes about 10-20 seconds to load the Finder
>> window.

> 10-20 seconds to open a window would be considered to be a problem.

Not really as it is only the first time it is opened. And then you see it
has 37,336 files in it. Also, it is probably less as I did not time it,
and waiting on a screen to load always feels much longer than it is. The
second time I opened it it had 37,347 files in it and it opened instantly.

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It's not the opening of the Window but the generation of the icons
that takes the time.

el

On 2021-07-10 20:32 , nospam wrote:
> In article <slrnsejcf8.2iu1.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>>> I thought I remembered someone having issues in Lion in this group, but
>>>> it was thousands of files on the desktop. I could be misremembering.
>>
>>> thousands of files in *any* folder is going to cause problems.
>>
>> Not on a modern machine/OS it doesn't. There are 37,336 files in a
>> single folder in my Documents folder. The only issue is that the first
>> time I open that folder, it takes about 10-20 seconds to load the Finder
>> window.
>
> 10-20 seconds to open a window would be considered to be a problem.
>

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 by: super70s - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 23:03 UTC

In article <slrnsehkl4.2js5.g.kreme@m1mini.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> In message <Pq-dnavmp5EHNHX9nZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.apps Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> >> That makes me suspect the Office.mdimporter even more.
>
> > So, what should I try with it? What do I run in Terminal with it if
> > reindexing all of my client's datas doesn't work?
>
> I have no advice on that as I do not use MS Word at all and have not for
> many many years. My word processing needs are nearly-non existent, and
> for the few documents I need to "word process" I will generally use
> Pages, or if it is simple, markdown -> HMTL.
>
> I *detest* all versions of Word after 5.1 (Mac), and that version does
> not run on any OS in the last 20+ years.

I can run 5.1 and 11.6.1 (part of Office 2004) on my old PowerPC G4 with
Tiger.

11.6.1 seems to be able to convert any Word documents from later apps, I
haven't run across one it can't yet.

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 by: Lewis - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:33 UTC

In message <super70s-C8105C.18033511072021@reader02.eternal-september.org> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnsehkl4.2js5.g.kreme@m1mini.local>,
> Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>> In message <Pq-dnavmp5EHNHX9nZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant
>> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> > In comp.sys.mac.apps Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> >> That makes me suspect the Office.mdimporter even more.
>>
>> > So, what should I try with it? What do I run in Terminal with it if
>> > reindexing all of my client's datas doesn't work?
>>
>> I have no advice on that as I do not use MS Word at all and have not for
>> many many years. My word processing needs are nearly-non existent, and
>> for the few documents I need to "word process" I will generally use
>> Pages, or if it is simple, markdown -> HMTL.
>>
>> I *detest* all versions of Word after 5.1 (Mac), and that version does
>> not run on any OS in the last 20+ years.

> I can run 5.1 and 11.6.1 (part of Office 2004) on my old PowerPC G4 with
> Tiger.

No, you can run 5.1 in a MacOS 9 CLASSIC environment running under
Tiger, and Classic is running a previous century OS (possibly with a
couple of updates) released in this millennium.

So no, Word 5.1 cannot run on any OS in the last 22 years (MacOS 9 was
released in 1999).

Other than an April 1 issue of TidBITS back in 2003, there was never a
versions of Word 5.1 for Mac OS X.

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In article <slrnseoh5d.2s03.g.kreme@m1mini.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> In message <super70s-C8105C.18033511072021@reader02.eternal-september.org>
> super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <slrnsehkl4.2js5.g.kreme@m1mini.local>,
> > Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> >> I *detest* all versions of Word after 5.1 (Mac), and that version does
> >> not run on any OS in the last 20+ years.
>
> > I can run 5.1 and 11.6.1 (part of Office 2004) on my old PowerPC G4 with
> > Tiger.
>
> No, you can run 5.1 in a MacOS 9 CLASSIC environment running under
> Tiger,

I thought that was too obvious to mention.

> So no, Word 5.1 cannot run on any OS in the last 22 years (MacOS 9 was
> released in 1999).

I wasn't disputing that.

> Other than an April 1 issue of TidBITS back in 2003, there was never a
> versions of Word 5.1 for Mac OS X.

Didn't know that but I wouldn't need it since as I said I can also run
11.6.1 on Tiger. I don't even need 5.1 since 11.6.1 opens up all the
files that were created with 5.1, I just keep it on the HD for old
time's sake.

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 by: J Burns - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 18:27 UTC

On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-05 1:46 p.m., J Burns wrote:
>> On 7/1/21 9:08 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> It seems I have to do it monthly
>>> (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201716) since it is not finding all
>>> matched Office documents in Documents folder. This never happened in
>>> older versions like Mojave v10.14. :(
>>>
>>> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>
>> Now that I read your message again, it rings a bell. Years ago, I
>> started using OpenOffice. The default for text files is .ODT.
>>
>> I discovered that Spotlight wouldn't always find ODT files whose
>> content contained the search term. For some reason, if I rebuilt
>> Spotlight, it would show some of the ODT files with the term.
>>
>> I used to know how to view the components of an ODT file. I wish I
>> knew how to do it now. It saves the text as a ZIP file.  DOCX also
>> uses ZIP. Evidently, Spotlight normally ignores ZIP files.
>>
>> For years, I hoped this would be fixed in an OS update. If Apple
>> hasn't fixed it, I should.
>>
>> Will EasyFind search contents of ZIP files? If there's no way to
>> search them, I need to convert ODT files to another format. What's a
>> good searchable format for word processor documents?
>
> 'LibreOffice comes with a Spotlight importer in its bundle. You can
> confirm this with the following terminal command:
>
>
>      /usr/bin/mdimport -L
>
>
> , which lists available importers and included in this list should be:
>
>
>
> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.
> mdimporter"'
>
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7484775>
>
> And running "mdimport -L" on my own system shows:
>
> '"/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter",
>
>
Darn! I got distracted and just now remembered that I'd posted a question!

When I ask Terminal for a list, the two Applications importers are
Thunderbird and LibreOffice.

Under Applications in the Finder, when I check the Contents of
LibreOffice and OpenOffice, each has its importer in Libraries. I
wonder why the OpenOffice importer doesn't show up in /user/bin.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:28 UTC

On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-05 1:46 p.m., J Burns wrote:
>
> Darn! I got distracted and just now remembered that I'd posted a
> question!

Well let's see how long it takes you to respond to this...

> When I ask Terminal for a list, the two Applications importers are
> Thunderbird and LibreOffice.

What do you mean by "ask Terminal for a list"?

Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?

> Under Applications in the Finder, when I check the Contents of
> LibreOffice and OpenOffice, each has its importer in Libraries. I
> wonder why the OpenOffice importer doesn't show up in /user/bin.

Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the "Library"
directories or inside of application bundles.

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 by: J Burns - Mon, 26 Jul 2021 19:36 UTC

On 7/16/21 3:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-05 1:46 p.m., J Burns wrote:
>>
>> Darn! I got distracted and just now remembered that I'd posted a
>> question!
>
> Well let's see how long it takes you to respond to this...
>
>> When I ask Terminal for a list, the two Applications importers are
>> Thunderbird and LibreOffice.
>
> What do you mean by "ask Terminal for a list"?
>
> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
> an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?

Yes.


"/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter",
"/Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/thunderbird.mdimporter"

>
>> Under Applications in the Finder, when I check the Contents of
>> LibreOffice and OpenOffice, each has its importer in Libraries. I
>> wonder why the OpenOffice importer doesn't show up in /user/bin.
>
> Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
> installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the "Library"
> directories or inside of application bundles.
>
In the Open Office application bundle, in the Spotlight folder, I find
OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter

But "mdimport -L" doesn't seem to find it.

Spotlight will find some but not all ODT documents with a certain name
in their content. It looks as if it hasn't seen the content of those
that haven't been opened in years.

Lately, I've been repeatedly sidetracked researching the history of
bicycles.

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On Jul 26, 2021 at 12:36:33 PM MST, "J Burns" wrote
<sdn2s2$tb3$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 7/16/21 3:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-05 1:46 p.m., J Burns wrote:
>>>
>>> Darn! I got distracted and just now remembered that I'd posted a
>>> question!
>>
>> Well let's see how long it takes you to respond to this...
>>
>>> When I ask Terminal for a list, the two Applications importers are
>>> Thunderbird and LibreOffice.
>>
>> What do you mean by "ask Terminal for a list"?
>>
>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
>> an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>
> Yes.
>
>
> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImport
> er.mdimporter",
>
> "/Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/thunderbird.mdimpo
> rter"
>
>
>>
>>> Under Applications in the Finder, when I check the Contents of
>>> LibreOffice and OpenOffice, each has its importer in Libraries. I
>>> wonder why the OpenOffice importer doesn't show up in /user/bin.
>>
>> Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
>> installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the "Library"
>> directories or inside of application bundles.
>>
> In the Open Office application bundle, in the Spotlight folder, I find
> OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter
>
> But "mdimport -L" doesn't seem to find it.
>
> Spotlight will find some but not all ODT documents with a certain name
> in their content. It looks as if it hasn't seen the content of those
> that haven't been opened in years.
>
> Lately, I've been repeatedly sidetracked researching the history of
> bicycles.

Sounds tiring.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:58 UTC

On 2021-07-26, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 7/16/21 3:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-05 1:46 p.m., J Burns wrote:
>>>
>>> Darn! I got distracted and just now remembered that I'd posted a
>>> question!
>>
>> Well let's see how long it takes you to respond to this...
>>
>>> When I ask Terminal for a list, the two Applications importers are
>>> Thunderbird and LibreOffice.
>>
>> What do you mean by "ask Terminal for a list"?
>>
>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
>> an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>
> Yes.
>
> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter",
> "/Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/thunderbird.mdimporter"
>
>>> Under Applications in the Finder, when I check the Contents of
>>> LibreOffice and OpenOffice, each has its importer in Libraries. I
>>> wonder why the OpenOffice importer doesn't show up in /user/bin.
>>
>> Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
>> installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the "Library"
>> directories or inside of application bundles.
>>
> In the Open Office application bundle, in the Spotlight folder, I find
> OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter
>
> But "mdimport -L" doesn't seem to find it.

I'm confused.

Did you not just above say that "mdimport -L" *did* find it?

I quote:

>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
>> an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>
> Yes.
>
> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter"

What am I missing?

> Spotlight will find some but not all ODT documents with a certain name
> in their content. It looks as if it hasn't seen the content of those
> that haven't been opened in years.

If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to a bug in the LibreOffice
Spotlight plugin.

> Lately, I've been repeatedly sidetracked researching the history of
> bicycles.

Okay.

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 by: Lewis - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 21:58 UTC

In message <imaoovFifqbU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to a bug in the LibreOffice
> Spotlight plugin.

A bug in LibreOffice? UNPOSSIBLE! <VBG>

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In article <slrnsg10bg.16d1.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> > If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to a bug in the LibreOffice
> > Spotlight plugin.
>
> A bug in LibreOffice? UNPOSSIBLE! <VBG>

it's what they do best.

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 by: Lewis - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 12:31 UTC

In message <270720211842368486%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnsg10bg.16d1.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>> > If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to a bug in the LibreOffice
>> > Spotlight plugin.
>>
>> A bug in LibreOffice? UNPOSSIBLE! <VBG>

> it's what they do best.

To be fair, they are largely copying MS Office functionality, perhaps
they are emulating the bugs as well?

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:12 UTC

On 2021-07-28, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <270720211842368486%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <slrnsg10bg.16d1.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
>> <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>> > If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to a bug in the LibreOffice
>>> > Spotlight plugin.
>>>
>>> A bug in LibreOffice? UNPOSSIBLE! <VBG>
>
>> it's what they do best.
>
> To be fair, they are largely copying MS Office functionality, perhaps
> they are emulating the bugs as well?

+1

: D

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 by: J Burns - Sat, 31 Jul 2021 14:22 UTC

On 7/27/21 11:58 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2021-07-26, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 7/16/21 3:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-05 1:46 p.m., J Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Darn! I got distracted and just now remembered that I'd posted a
>>>> question!
>>>
>>> Well let's see how long it takes you to respond to this...
>>>
>>>> When I ask Terminal for a list, the two Applications importers are
>>>> Thunderbird and LibreOffice.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "ask Terminal for a list"?
>>>
>>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
>>> an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter",
>> "/Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/thunderbird.mdimporter"
>>
>>>> Under Applications in the Finder, when I check the Contents of
>>>> LibreOffice and OpenOffice, each has its importer in Libraries. I
>>>> wonder why the OpenOffice importer doesn't show up in /user/bin.
>>>
>>> Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
>>> installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the "Library"
>>> directories or inside of application bundles.
>>>
>> In the Open Office application bundle, in the Spotlight folder, I find
>> OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter
>>
>> But "mdimport -L" doesn't seem to find it.
>
> I'm confused.
>
> Did you not just above say that "mdimport -L" *did* find it?
>
> I quote:
>
>>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you did see
>>> an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter"
>
> What am I missing?

I use OpenOffice but at some time installed LibreOffice. It seems
"mdimport -L" didn't find the mdimporter in the OpenOffice bundle.

Should I use Appcleaner to get rid of both apps, then reinstall OpenOffice?
>
>> Spotlight will find some but not all ODT documents with a certain name
>> in their content. It looks as if it hasn't seen the content of those
>> that haven't been opened in years.
>
> If I had to guess, I'd say this is due to a bug in the LibreOffice
> Spotlight plugin.
>
>> Lately, I've been repeatedly sidetracked researching the history of
>> bicycles.
>
> Okay.

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On 2021-07-31, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 7/27/21 11:58 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2021-07-26, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/16/21 3:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
>>>> installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the
>>>> "Library" directories or inside of application bundles.
>>>>
>>> In the Open Office application bundle, in the Spotlight folder, I
>>> find OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter
>>>
>>> But "mdimport -L" doesn't seem to find it.
>>
>> I'm confused.
>>
>> Did you not just above say that "mdimport -L" *did* find it?
>>
>> I quote:
>>
>>>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you
>>>> did see an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter"
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> I use OpenOffice but at some time installed LibreOffice. It seems
> "mdimport -L" didn't find the mdimporter in the OpenOffice bundle.

Ah - sorry, I missed that distinction.

> Should I use Appcleaner to get rid of both apps, then reinstall OpenOffice?

I wouldn't think an app cleaner is required (and they often cause more
problems than they solve by deleting things they shouldn't anyway). Just
reinstall it over what you already have (or drag the app to the trash
first).

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 by: J Burns - Mon, 2 Aug 2021 04:13 UTC

On 7/31/21 1:46 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2021-07-31, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 7/27/21 11:58 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-26, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/16/21 3:28 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-07-16, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/5/21 5:03 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Importers aren't in /usr/bin - that's where the mdimport tools is
>>>>> installed. Importers are typically installed in one of the
>>>>> "Library" directories or inside of application bundles.
>>>>>
>>>> In the Open Office application bundle, in the Spotlight folder, I
>>>> find OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter
>>>>
>>>> But "mdimport -L" doesn't seem to find it.
>>>
>>> I'm confused.
>>>
>>> Did you not just above say that "mdimport -L" *did* find it?
>>>
>>> I quote:
>>>
>>>>> Are you trying to say you ran "mdimport -L" in Terminal, and you
>>>>> did see an importer for LibreOffice in that listing?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>> "/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/OOoSpotlightImporter.mdimporter"
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>
>> I use OpenOffice but at some time installed LibreOffice. It seems
>> "mdimport -L" didn't find the mdimporter in the OpenOffice bundle.
>
> Ah - sorry, I missed that distinction.
>
>> Should I use Appcleaner to get rid of both apps, then reinstall OpenOffice?
>
> I wouldn't think an app cleaner is required (and they often cause more
> problems than they solve by deleting things they shouldn't anyway). Just
> reinstall it over what you already have (or drag the app to the trash
> first).
>

I went to Openoffice.org for the latest, and they recommended
Libreoffice. Openoffice.org quit years ago. I was hardly aware that I'd
been using Apache Open Office. They don't seem to have been very busy
since 2014, so there could be an overlooked Spotlight problem.

I'll switch to Libreoffice. There was something I disliked the last time
I tried it, but I don't even remember what.

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