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* Problem with "Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO"Jobst Schmalenbach
`* Re: Problem with "Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO"Claus Aßmann
 `* Re: Problem with "Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO"Jobst Schmalenbach
  `- Re: Problem with "Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO"Marco Moock

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Subject: Problem with "Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO"
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 by: Jobst Schmalenbach - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 02:14 UTC

Hi

Using smtp.com as SMART_HOST as the /16 network I am on is too often found on UCEPROTECT and some of our clients/suppliers use the blacklist.

Sending is working, not problem at all.
However I get the following error:

ruleset=try_tls, arg1=send.smtp.com, relay=send.smtp.com, reject=550 5.7.1 <EMAIL@DOMAIN.COM>... do not try TLS with send.smtp.com [192.40.165.68]

Documentation of smtp.com states to include
Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO
Try_TLS:192.40.165.68 NO
in /etc/mail/access, which I did.

Yet, still, I get this error!

Here are some of the important settings:
in access
Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO

in sendmail.mc
FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -T<TMPF> -o /etc/mail/access.db')

I have recreated all db/cf files and restarted sendmail.

Any ideas anyone?

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Subject: Re: Problem with "Try_TLS:send.smtp.com NO"
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 by: Claus Aßmann - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 05:52 UTC

Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:

> However I get the following error:

> ruleset=try_tls, arg1=send.smtp.com, relay=send.smtp.com, reject=550 5.7.1
> <EMAIL@DOMAIN.COM>... do not try TLS with send.smtp.com [192.40.165.68]

It's confusing, but it's not an "error" -- it's just how
the results of a ruleset is currently logged.

The mail is being sent, right?

BTW: why are you supposed to turn off STARTTLS?
Is there a bug at smtp.com?

> FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -T<TMPF> -o /etc/mail/access.db')

Do NOT use -o, and the rest if default so just use:
FEATURE(`access_db')

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 by: Jobst Schmalenbach - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 12:29 UTC

On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 16:52:03 UTC+11, Claus Aßmann wrote:
> Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> It's confusing, but it's not an "error" -- it's just how
> the results of a ruleset is currently logged.

OK, I understand now!
Thanks for the clarification.

>
> The mail is being sent, right?
>

Yes it is.

> BTW: why are you supposed to turn off STARTTLS?
> Is there a bug at smtp.com?

Nah, not really. You can send to their 465 port, but you can also send to 25 and 2525.
If you send to 25/2525 they ask you to turn off TLS

> > FEATURE(`access_db',`hash -T<TMPF> -o /etc/mail/access.db')
> Do NOT use -o, and the rest if default so just use:
> FEATURE(`access_db')

OK, done.

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 12:59 UTC

Am Donnerstag, 03. Februar 2022, um 04:29:32 Uhr schrieb Jobst
Schmalenbach:

> On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 16:52:03 UTC+11, Claus Aßmann wrote:
> > Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> > It's confusing, but it's not an "error" -- it's just how
> > the results of a ruleset is currently logged.
>
> OK, I understand now!
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> >
> > The mail is being sent, right?
> >
>
> Yes it is.
>
> > BTW: why are you supposed to turn off STARTTLS?
> > Is there a bug at smtp.com?
>
> Nah, not really. You can send to their 465 port, but you can also
> send to 25 and 2525. If you send to 25/2525 they ask you to turn off
> TLS

But why do they offer TLS over port 465, but don't want that
people use port 25 with STARTTLS?
I also read that GMail doesn't want that MTAs use STARTTLS due to
performance reasons.

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