> https://www.ebay.com/itm/162829945281

Did we get any images (of the microchannel version) when this auction was live?...

https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/

IBMMuseum wrote:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/162829945281
>
> Did we get any images (of the microchannel version) when this auction was live?...
>

Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/
>
>
> IBMMuseum wrote:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/162829945281
>>
>> Did we get any images (of the microchannel version) when this auction
>> was live?...
>>

http://cini.classiccmp.org/trackstar.htm

Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/
>
>
> IBMMuseum wrote:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/162829945281
>>
>> Did we get any images (of the microchannel version) when this auction
>> was live?...
>>

LGR just talked about this in his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-6AKe2pvsQ. :D

Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net> wrote:
> http://cini.classiccmp.org/trackstar.htm

> Louis Ohland wrote:
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/
> >
> >
> > IBMMuseum wrote:
> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/162829945281
> >>
> >> Did we get any images (of the microchannel version) when this auction
> >> was live?...
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There are a few sites showing the 8-bit (ISA) version - including this one (the pictures show a Model 30 286). No images (or ADF listed) for the microchannel version. I'm just wondering if people were initially confused that the listed "PS/2 Model 25 and 30 compatible!" (there's a neat Model 25 internal cable included with the adapter) to think there was a microchannel version too.

> LGR just talked about this in his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-6AKe2pvsQ. :D

Indeed - which is what spurred me to revive this necro-thread...

R022TRKSTAR.TXT
https://mirrors.apple2.org.za/apple.cabi.net/FAQs.and.INFO/A2.Csa2.FAQs/R022TRKSTAR.TXT

Louis Ohland wrote:
>
>
> Louis Ohland wrote:
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/
>>
>>
>> IBMMuseum wrote:
>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/162829945281
>>>
>>> Did we get any images (of the microchannel version) when this auction
>>> was live?...
>>>

I've waded through pages on the various 8-bit versions - but haven't found either an ADF or image of the microchannel version. Pictures, or it didn't happen. It was a thing to convert your PC, XT, Tandy 1000 ('uxwbill' video), or PS/2 Model 25 and 30 to act like an Apple II - but would businesses do that with a microchannel system? The lack of a known ADF is incriminating; All references to microchannel seem to come from a single source.

'Vintage Geek' also did a video a year ago of installing an adapter on an 80886-based Model 30 (just like Clint did for a portion of the video released today)...

IBMMuseum <ibmmuseum@gmail.com> wrote:
> > LGR just talked about this in his https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-6AKe2pvsQ. :D

> Indeed - which is what spurred me to revive this necro-thread...

Ha. You should mentioned it in here. ;) It was a nice long video. I didn't know it existed.
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https://books.google.com/books?id=HXDkCoqMiVIC&pg=RA1-PA12&lpg=RA1-PA12&dq=%22trackstar+plus%22+apple&source=bl&ots=foUXUL8Jin&sig=ACfU3U1bgWNAIb5fQ_khGiQOUcL1wwen3A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwih5aO_5v3_AhVilYkEHYmRDDU4FBDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=%22trackstar%20plus%22%20apple&f=false

IBMMuseum wrote:
> I've waded through pages on the various 8-bit versions - but haven't found either an ADF or image of the microchannel version. Pictures, or it didn't happen. It was a thing to convert your PC, XT, Tandy 1000 ('uxwbill' video), or PS/2 Model 25 and 30 to act like an Apple II - but would businesses do that with a microchannel system? The lack of a known ADF is incriminating; All references to microchannel seem to come from a single source.
>
> 'Vintage Geek' also did a video a year ago of installing an adapter on an 80886-based Model 30 (just like Clint did for a portion of the video released today)...
>

https://archive.org/details/DiamondComputerSystems_TrackstarBrochure/mode/2up?q=%22trackstar+plus%22+apple

Louis Ohland wrote:
> https://books.google.com/books?id=HXDkCoqMiVIC&pg=RA1-PA12&lpg=RA1-PA12&dq=%22trackstar+plus%22+apple&source=bl&ots=foUXUL8Jin&sig=ACfU3U1bgWNAIb5fQ_khGiQOUcL1wwen3A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwih5aO_5v3_AhVilYkEHYmRDDU4FBDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=%22trackstar%20plus%22%20apple&f=false
>
>
> IBMMuseum wrote:
>> I've waded through pages on the various 8-bit versions - but haven't
>> found either an ADF or image of the microchannel version. Pictures, or
>> it didn't happen. It was a thing to convert your PC, XT, Tandy 1000
>> ('uxwbill' video), or PS/2 Model 25 and 30 to act like an Apple II -
>> but would businesses do that with a microchannel system? The lack of a
>> known ADF is incriminating; All references to microchannel seem to
>> come from a single source.
>>
>> 'Vintage Geek' also did a video a year ago of installing an adapter on
>> an 80886-based Model 30 (just like Clint did for a portion of the
>> video released today)...
>>

"(but not Micro Channel PS/2)" being the critical phrase, in a publication from Fall 1989 - I think a single-source got confused about the bus type of a Model 25 and 30 and it populated out that there was a microchannel version (or that it never hit the wild).

Imagine that...

Still, ISA suggests it could be brought over to MCA.

IBMMuseum wrote:
> "(but not Micro Channel PS/2)" being the critical phrase, in a publication from Fall 1989 - I think a single-source got confused about the bus type of a Model 25 and 30 and it populated out that there was a microchannel version (or that it never hit the wild).
>

The chart listing the Trackstar Plus as having a microchannel version (why not name that product differently for being so unique?) appears to have been compiled (and is repeated elsewhere) from unofficial sources - with the coincidence that the PS/2 Model 25 has to use the same Trackstar Plus version (because the model-specific video cable is only included with that product); I think the compiler wasn't familiar and grouped all PS/2s as being microchannel. We have seen that time and again.

No known ADF - and more official information in computer magazines say that the Trackstar products can't be used in "Micro Channel PS/2s".

On 08-07-2023 01:55, IBMMuseum wrote:
> I've waded through pages on the various 8-bit versions - but haven't found either an ADF or image of the microchannel version. Pictures, or it didn't happen. It was a thing to convert your PC, XT, Tandy 1000 ('uxwbill' video), or PS/2 Model 25 and 30 to act like an Apple II - but would businesses do that with a microchannel system? The lack of a known ADF is incriminating; All references to microchannel seem to come from a single source.
>
> 'Vintage Geek' also did a video a year ago of installing an adapter on an 80886-based Model 30 (just like Clint did for a portion of the video released today)...

On the page Louis mentioned:

https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/

the author says (Errata #2 at the bottom):

"11/19/2002 - Major confusion! The machine I'm actually using is an IBM PS/2 Model 30/286. Earlier, I assumed the machine was a Model 55SX, based on reading the front of the case. A reader from comp.sys.apple2 mentioned that the 55SX is actually a micro channel (MCA) model, and not an ISA. That concerned me big-time! So after cross-referencing several of the parts in the machine via its FRU numbers, it ends up that the machine is indeed a Model 30/286, but in an Model 55SX case. How this occurred is beyond me! I received the machine from a local hospital after their Y2K clean-up, so anything could have happened to it during its 11-year lifespan."

That would explain the MCA-confusion...

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JWR wrote:
> On 08-07-2023 01:55, IBMMuseum wrote:
>> I've waded through pages on the various 8-bit versions - but haven't
>> found either an ADF or image of the microchannel version. Pictures, or
>> it didn't happen. It was a thing to convert your PC, XT, Tandy 1000
>> ('uxwbill' video), or PS/2 Model 25 and 30 to act like an Apple II -
>> but would businesses do that with a microchannel system? The lack of a
>> known ADF is incriminating; All references to microchannel seem to
>> come from a single source.
>>
>> 'Vintage Geek' also did a video a year ago of installing an adapter on
>> an 80886-based Model 30 (just like Clint did for a portion of the
>> video released today)...
>
> On the page Louis mentioned:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20021209112019/https://www.macgeek.org/museum/trackstarplus/
>
>
> the author says (Errata #2 at the bottom):
>
> "11/19/2002 - Major confusion! The machine I'm actually using is an IBM
> PS/2 Model 30/286. Earlier, I assumed the machine was a Model 55SX,
> based on reading the front of the case. A reader from comp.sys.apple2
> mentioned that the 55SX is actually a micro channel (MCA) model, and not
> an ISA. That concerned me big-time! So after cross-referencing several
> of the parts in the machine via its FRU numbers, it ends up that the
> machine is indeed a Model 30/286, but in an Model 55SX case. How this
> occurred is beyond me! I received the machine from a local hospital
> after their Y2K clean-up, so anything could have happened to it during
> its 11-year lifespan."
>
> That would explain the MCA-confusion...
>