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New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X

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Subject: New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 10:21:34 -0800
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 by: sms - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:21 UTC

<https://www.mymobilex.com/>

$1.99/month line fee

$2.10/GB (data is pay as you go, not per month, so even if it takes you
months to use up a GB, you don't lose any data)

$1.50/month: 100 minutes and 100 texts
$2.50/month: 500 minutes and 500 texts
$4.50/month: unlimited minutes and unlimited texts

Uses the Verizon network.
eSIM support

Personally, I'd just use this with a Google Voice number since voice and
texts use very little data. Voice uses about 200KB/minute
(0.00105¢/minute) and a text would be use less than 0.0001¢ worth of data.

Re: New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X

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From: V...@nguard.LH (VanguardLH)
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Subject: Re: New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X
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 by: VanguardLH - Tue, 28 Feb 2023 21:24 UTC

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> <https://www.mymobilex.com/>
>
> $1.99/month line fee
>
> $2.10/GB (data is pay as you go, not per month, so even if it takes you
> months to use up a GB, you don't lose any data)
>
> $1.50/month: 100 minutes and 100 texts
> $2.50/month: 500 minutes and 500 texts
> $4.50/month: unlimited minutes and unlimited texts
>
> Uses the Verizon network.
> eSIM support
>
> Personally, I'd just use this with a Google Voice number since voice and
> texts use very little data. Voice uses about 200KB/minute
> (0.00105¢/minute) and a text would be use less than 0.0001¢ worth of data.

According to employee reviews at Indeed, they are worked hard, long
hours, and little pay. They are not happy workers.

Wonder if Verizon will let you subscribe *without* activating voicemail.
MVNOs that use Verizon won't let you disable voicemail after it has been
activated, and activation is part of the setup process. You have an
account at the MVNO, not at Verizon, so you don't get an account at
Verizon to turn on/off voicemail. Google Voice is great at getting rid
of spam, but not the cellular carriers. I get almost no spam through
Google Voice. Nearly all spam calls are direct to my cell phone number.
I'd disable voicemail at my cellular carrier, and just use voicemail at
Google Voice, but the MVNO and AT&T (my current carrier) and Verizon
(what I'll get forced to later since Verizon bought out Tracfone) won't
let me disable voicemail.

The prices listed at MobileX's site doesn't match those reported in
reviews. See:

https://www.bestphoneplans.net/carriers/mobilex

The first month is free probably so their app (required to use their
service) can monitor your calls, texts, and data usage to know what
service tier they'll promote to you.

The review mentions data will rollover (if you buy too much, and don't
use it all), but no mention about call and text quotas. With Tracfone,
I have tons of rollover minutes, so I can nuts on vacation (but I
don't).

When the article mentions "fake plans", they mean you get something less
than the promised unlimited at high speed. At some threshold, bandwidth
drops dramatically. So, unlimited is high-speed to some unpublished
threshold, and slow speed thereafter.

Their unlimited plans are cheap ... at first. They're for new
customers. So, after signing up, how long until you are no longer a new
customer? When do you become an old customer? Until the free trial
expires? 1 year? Their app gauges what you've used so far to determine
what plan to suggest to use next. Until then, you don't know what
you'll be paying.

https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2021/10/06/2309518/0/en/Mobile-X-Global-Partners-with-Verizon-to-Deliver-an-Industry-Leading-AI-Driven-Platform-for-Consumers.html
"“We plan to serve a new generation of borderless consumer who will only
ever need one phone number, one service - where your network goes
wherever you go - providing global connectivity without data roaming
charges."

So, how ever-present is Verizon, if at all, outside the USA? Verizon's
coverage map shows Canada, USA, and Mexico. Is that it? Once outside
those regions, are you on Verizon's international plans?

https://www.verizon.com/plans/international/international-travel/

Founded in 2021, so they're new. They are funded by seed capital: $885K
for the first round by Mar 4, 2022. 1-10 employees (probably just for
management crew). (Info from Crunchbase)

They have a LinkedIn page at:
https://www.linkedin.com/company/mobile-x-global
where they claim 201-500 employees. The difference is probably all
those disgruntled support folks. I don't have a LinkedIn account to see
more info there.

In the media, they're often touted as "one of the world’s first
connectivity-as-a-service-AI companies". Unlike other MVNOs that get
the best deal from whichever carrier gives them the best bulk deal,
MobileX is partnered only with Verizon. You'll get coverage based on
Verizon's tower placements and Verizon's claim for coverage (which is
nowhere accurate).

Re: New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X

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From: wasbitRE...@hotmail.com (wasbit)
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Subject: Re: New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X
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 by: wasbit - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:27 UTC

"VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>" wrote in message
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> MVNOs that use Verizon won't let you disable voicemail after it has been
> activated, and activation is part of the setup process. You have an
> account at the MVNO, not at Verizon, so you don't get an account at
> Verizon to turn on/off voicemail.

As a workaround to the problem could you set up the MVNO account and then
call yourself leaving very short messages until your voicemail fills up.

You'd have to have a setting to "never delete" so that it stays full up.

Then you can set up Google Voice and hand out the Google Voice number.
Doesn't Google Voice messaging get sent to your email if you want it to?
--
Regards
wasbit

Re: New Pay-Go MVNO Mobile-X

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 by: VanguardLH - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 03:15 UTC

wasbit <wasbitREMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>" wrote ...
>
>> MVNOs that use Verizon won't let you disable voicemail after it has been
>> activated, and activation is part of the setup process. You have an
>> account at the MVNO, not at Verizon, so you don't get an account at
>> Verizon to turn on/off voicemail.
>
> As a workaround to the problem could you set up the MVNO account and then
> call yourself leaving very short messages until your voicemail fills up.

Perhaps that might work, but it means having a badge on the Message app
for those umpteen placeholder messages.

> You'd have to have a setting to "never delete" so that it stays full up.

I don't know if there is an expiration on my carrier's voicemail. Seems
I have to call into my voicemail, and hit 7 while a message is playing
to get it deleted. There's no option, like "never delete", as an
override to expiration, if there is expiration.

As I recall, voicemail does expire with Tracfone, there is no "never
delete" option, so filling up my voicemail box will work for only about
a month. Too bad I cannot delete all messages en masse instead of
having to start listening to each one before I can hit 7 to delete.

> Then you can set up Google Voice and hand out the Google Voice number.
> Doesn't Google Voice messaging get sent to your email if you want it to?

Yep, I have GV notify me of new voicemails left at the GV number.

Normally I would get get rid of the Messages app that works with my
carrier's voicemail; however, I have to use it to send "balance" to see
how much quota I have left. And the response is sent back as a text
from my carrier's service, not to GV.

I tried to log into my tracfone.com account, but that fails. Their
login pages accepts my username and password, but paints their home page
instead of an account page. So, I cannot see if my quota balance can be
seen using their web site. If that were doable, I wouldn't need to send
a "balance" text to them to get back a text to my Tracfone account (to
use the Messages app to see the reply text there). No, their tech
support is too stupid to figure out how to fix my login.

Tracfone's only suggestion was to cancel my current account (goodbye to
all those accrued rollover minutes), create a new account, and when
prompt to setup voicemail to skip that and not set it up (which leaves
it disabled).

Instead, I might just give up on sending the "balance" query to them to
check on my current remaining quota, and uninstall the Messages app to
go with just the GV app to get calls, texts, and voicemail.

Another option is to change my OGM (Outgoing Message) for voicemail with
my carrier. It would start with a SIC tone (number out of service),
warn that this number is not monitored and all voicemail is ignored,
following by a long tone, and ending with the SIC tone again. The OGM
would be as long as the carrier permits for the length of the OGM. Very
likely robocallers and spammers would hang up during the first SIC tone.
Anyone else would get pushed away but the mention that the number is not
monitored and voicemail gets ignored, and the last would have to endure
listening to some crappy music (stick in some yodeling stuff), and get
past the last SIC, to finally leave their message. About the only
callers that would survive all that would be robocallers that ignore the
SIC tone (most don't since they want to spend time calling someone else
that has a working number), and start their spew regardless of any
voicemail prompts or waiting for them.

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