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* Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Carlos E. R.
+* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Andy Burns
|+* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Carlos E. R.
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|||`* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Theo
||| `* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Carlos E.R.
|||  +* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.nospam
|||  |`- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Carlos E.R.
|||  `* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.sms
|||   +* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.AJL
|||   |+* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.VanguardLH
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|||   ||     ||     |            `* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.micky
|||   ||     ||     |             `* Headphones [Was: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support]Carlos E.R.
|||   ||     ||     |              +* Re: Headphones [Was: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support]sms
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|||   ||       +- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.The Real Bev
|||   ||       `- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.micky
|||   |+* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.nospam
|||   ||`* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.AJL
|||   || `* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.sms
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|||   | +- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.AJL
|||   | `- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.nospam
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|||   | `- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Carlos E.R.
|||   `* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Andy Burns
||`* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.sms
|+* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Andy Burnelli
|`- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Joerg Lorenz
+- Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.VanguardLH
+* Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.Joerg Lorenz
`* new twist: Vodafone and Google collaborate: RCS and Pixel messagingCarlos E.R.

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 by: Kees Nuyt - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 15:26 UTC

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 08:57:14 -0500, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <j33pcjx4js.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
><robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > Drop outs can occur when the input stage of the receiver is
>> > overloaded by strong radio signals, for example close to a GSM
>> > antenna mast or non-compliant WiFi.
>>
>> It happens to me even when walking in the woods with the in-ear-things.
>> Few times, but it does happen. In this case, I may loose one ear or the
>> other for a second or two, while the other one keeps working.
>
> then it's clearly not due to overloading the front end.
> no surprise there.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

In those circumstances (phone at big distance from a cell tower
/ base station) the periodic GSM handshake could cause
inteference, as the phone has to send at full power to reach the
tower, overloading the Bluetooth receiver's front end.

Not in your world of course, but surely in everybody elses.
--
Kees Nuyt

Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:46 UTC

In article <7aumvh950naiiea19h97f8pemaqf7io82l@dim53.demon.nl>, Kees
Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> wrote:

> >> > Drop outs can occur when the input stage of the receiver is
> >> > overloaded by strong radio signals, for example close to a GSM
> >> > antenna mast or non-compliant WiFi.
> >>
> >> It happens to me even when walking in the woods with the in-ear-things.
> >> Few times, but it does happen. In this case, I may loose one ear or the
> >> other for a second or two, while the other one keeps working.
> >
> > then it's clearly not due to overloading the front end.
> > no surprise there.
>
> I wouldn't be so sure about that.

i would.

> In those circumstances (phone at big distance from a cell tower
> / base station) the periodic GSM handshake could cause
> inteference, as the phone has to send at full power to reach the
> tower, overloading the Bluetooth receiver's front end.
>
> Not in your world of course, but surely in everybody elses.

not in anyone's world does that happen.

first of all, both bluetooth and lte/5g cellular use spread spectrum,
so your contrived scenario *can't* be the cause.

second, bluetooth headsets work exceptionally well while a call is in
progress. if the phone is at a distance from the tower, it would be
transmitting at full power (or close to it). if that's not a problem
(and it isn't), a 'periodic gsm handshake' can't possibly be.

lastly, bluetooth headsets have a buffer so that there aren't any
dropouts if any packets are lost and need to be resent, regardless of
the reason.

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On 2/26/2023 2:53 AM, Theo wrote:

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> The other problem is multi-device support, which wasn't really a problem in
> the 2G/3G era, but nowadays people have phones, tablets, laptops, desktops,
> and want them all on the same account. Some messaging platforms support
> this better than others. So 'it works with your phone number' is actually a
> mis-feature.

In the U.S., the issue with MMS was that it uses data and data used to
be expensive. These days, unless you're on a very inexpensive prepaid
plan, you'll have either unlimited data, or more data than you're likely
to use; average mobile data usage in the U.S. is now about 12GB per
month and it's only that high because so many users have unlimited data
that they no longer even bother to try to use free Wi-Fi when it's
available.

WhatsApp is finally allowing users to have the app active on multiple
devices at the same time, which is a big plus.

Now that I have iMessage on my Android devices, it's very nice to be
able to just give up on getting some of those Apple users to embrace
WhatsApp and use iMessage with them.

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 by: sms - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 17:17 UTC

On 2/26/2023 2:59 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Theo wrote:
>
>> With RCS, the problem is that nobody is interested:
>
> Or rather, only the meta/apple haters are interested, I consider myself
> within that set.

LOL, it's not really hate, it's that with SMS the advantage was that
everyone in the world has it, you don't need to know their WhatsApp,
Signal, Telegram, Line, Apple, contact information, they'll get the message.

I think that an app like Beeper has great potential.

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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 18:58 UTC

sms wrote:

> On 2/26/2023 2:59 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Theo wrote:
>>
>>> With RCS, the problem is that nobody is interested:
>>
>> Or rather, only the meta/apple haters are interested, I consider
>> myself within that set.
>
> LOL, it's not really hate

Maybe not hate, though I don't expect to buy any iOS device or sign-up
for facebook/whatsapp any decade soon

I think in general parlance that makes me a hater :-)

> it's that with SMS the advantage was that
> everyone in the world has it, you don't need to know their WhatsApp,
> Signal, Telegram, Line, Apple, contact information, they'll get the
> message.

I don't with RCS, it's like using opportunistic encryption on emails, if
both parties have it, the phone will use it, if not it falls back to SMS

> I think that an app like Beeper has great potential.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Feb 2023 06:49 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> We are talking alternatives to SMS, which use the phone number. I am not
>> interested in alternatives that are not related to a phone or do not use
>> the phone number as identification.
>
> you might not, but most people want alternatives that are *not* tied to
> a phone number or a particular carrier.

The primitive iMessage app _must_ use the account, whereas the modern
Android messaging apps can use _either_ the phone or an account, nospam.

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In article <tteve2$1ceie$1@news.mixmin.net>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> >> We are talking alternatives to SMS, which use the phone number. I am not
> >> interested in alternatives that are not related to a phone or do not use
> >> the phone number as identification.
> >
> > you might not, but most people want alternatives that are *not* tied to
> > a phone number or a particular carrier.
>
> The primitive iMessage app _must_ use the account, whereas the modern
> Android messaging apps can use _either_ the phone or an account, nospam.

wrong.

imessage can use either a phone number or an apple id or both. it's up
to the user to decide.

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-signed-out.png>

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_
US/iOS/ios15-iphone12-pro-settings-messages-imessage-crop.png>

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 by: micky - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 21:25 UTC

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 20 Feb 2023 16:53:55 -0800, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>On 2/20/2023 1:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Because don't look a gifted horse in the mouth? :-)
>
>True. I've got several sets of both wired and Bluetooth earbuds and
>headphones that I got for free. These seem to be popular giveaways at
>trade shows and other events.
>
>> What I need now are headphones for air travel, meaning cable, and small
>> package
>There are some hybrid wired/wireless headphones with active noise
>cancellation, and aptX, i.e.
><https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=43251>

Yes, I have noise cancellation** headphones, also from Monoprice. I see
they have 6 models now. When I bought mine 5 years ago, they had only
one, and I don't have time right now to see which ones I got.

The ones I bought run on 1, or maybe 2, AA batteries, which lasted for
two 10 hour flights and then another two 3 years later. I brought a
spare battery just in case for the second trip, but forgot to bring it
with me and had to buy at the airport at a high price. But the first
battery*** lasted the whole flight, and return.

But when I was getting ready the morning of the 2nd return flight, I
couldn't remember how to open the battery case and had to hunt the web
looking for instructions. I only found one set and was lucky to find
them.

Mine were, I think, $50, but that was 5 years ago.

**I don't see how one can fairly call anything but *active* noise
cancellation, noise cancellation. Passive is just noise *suppression*,
like ear muffs used with chain saws and lawn mowers. But that's the
terminology now.

Especially if your flight is transatlantic or otherwise long, the noise
from the engines weighs on one after a few hours. When I flew to
florida, 2 or 3 hours by air, I didn't take them and I didn't miss them.

You can also lower the noise by sitting, what, in front of the engines,
is that it? But I think that sells out early and I would rather have
noise and a window seat than comparative quiet without a view. Plus I
guess the people in front are more likely to die. (I wonder what the
death rate is for 1st class, if it's higher than tourist. They're always
in front.)

>. The issue is that the
>package is not terribly small, though not huge either, as long as the

Yes, they're big, especially if you bring the hard "plastic" protective
case, which I decided to do, for protection and because it holds the
little accessories, adapters and a cord. (although on my last trip I
forgot there was a cord and I ran around looking for a cord, so now I
have theirs and an even longer one, but even theirs is long enough to
reach to my ears from the back of the seat in front of me.

They are so big I have to remove all the accessories from my laptop bag
to make room. No way will I check the laptop. Once when I had to
change planes in Boston, I could see them throwing my suitcases from one
luggage truck to the next one. I know they were mine because I know one
of the planes was mine and I had the only bright green suitcases. But
even if they weren't mine, I saw them throwing the suitcasees around. I
don't think putting "Fragile - Do not bend" on them will help.

>earcups fold. Not sure what's sold in your country though.

Monoprice was substantially cheaper than other places aiui. Which is
surprising because they dont' make their own headphones, I'm sure, and
the same things must be sold under another brand.

Monoprice was also cheap on AA, AAA, and 9v batteries, but now they
don't sell batteries at all.

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 by: micky - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 21:33 UTC

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 26 Feb 2023 11:09:49 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2023-02-26 01:16, nospam wrote:
>> In article <u0fqcjxccq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Often cheap BT things. Even my 50? earphones.
>>>>
>>>> that's why you're having problems.
>>>
>>> 50¤ is expensive, man.
>>
>> not for bluetooth headphones, it isn't.
>
>For me and in this country, it is.
>
>>
>> this is expensive (and there are even higher priced options):
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Sony-WH-1000XM5-Canceling-Headphones-Hands-Free/ dp/B09XS7JWHH>
>
>That's hugely expensive.

$400!! Sure is. I'd rather stuff those rubber cylinders in my ears and
spend the flight in silence. (Unless I traveled for work and it was a
business expense. That must be their target market.

I have no need for Alexa voice control, especially when I'm in an
airplane. Well, maybe I could say, Bank left, bank right,
loop-de-loop, open the bomb bay doors.

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On 2023-03-01 22:33, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 26 Feb 2023 11:09:49 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-02-26 01:16, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <u0fqcjxccq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Often cheap BT things. Even my 50? earphones.
>>>>>
>>>>> that's why you're having problems.
>>>>
>>>> 50¤ is expensive, man.
>>>
>>> not for bluetooth headphones, it isn't.
>>
>> For me and in this country, it is.
>>
>>>
>>> this is expensive (and there are even higher priced options):
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Sony-WH-1000XM5-Canceling-Headphones-Hands-Free/ dp/B09XS7JWHH>
>>
>> That's hugely expensive.
>
> $400!! Sure is. I'd rather stuff those rubber cylinders in my ears and
> spend the flight in silence. (Unless I traveled for work and it was a
> business expense. That must be their target market.
>
> I have no need for Alexa voice control, especially when I'm in an
> airplane. Well, maybe I could say, Bank left, bank right,
> loop-de-loop, open the bomb bay doors.

:-)

I finally bought a pair of "good" headphones. Sennheiser HD 450BT.
Around 130€, and they were the pair on show, so I got a discount in the
form fo free insurance. I'd prefer a rebate, but they don't do it.

The thing has noise cancellation, but when activated I hear chirps now
and then. Otherwise, the sound quality seems good, and I did not
experience cuts during a 90 minutes youtube real time streaming.

They are foldable, include a jack for connection to the airplane media
system, and the ears are enclosed in near silence when at home.

It has voice assistant, but not going to use it. I have it disabled at
the phone, so I have to tap the microphone button in the phone.

There is an app. The instruction paper gives the name of the app, they
did not bother to print a q code dots-rectangle. The app is not
compatible with my tablet (not a surprise, it is "old"). It works in the
phone, and I used the app to upgrade the thing firmware. That's a first
for me.

Oh, before this pair I bought another one, much cheaper, in the 25€
range. Hama Calypso. Amazon says they come with a cable, but there was
no cable in the box I bought at the shop. Maybe different model, but it
did have the socket for the jack. So I returned the thing, and tried
again. Those other headphones with jack socket and BT did not have a
corresponding box to buy it, so... Then I thought to try one with noise
cancellation. Should be good for sleeping in the airplane...

But it has chirps.

Now don't tell me that noise cancellation only works if one buys a 400€
item.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 22:48 UTC

On 2023-03-01 22:25, micky wrote:

> They are so big I have to remove all the accessories from my laptop bag
> to make room. No way will I check the laptop. Once when I had to
> change planes in Boston, I could see them throwing my suitcases from one
> luggage truck to the next one. I know they were mine because I know one
> of the planes was mine and I had the only bright green suitcases. But
> even if they weren't mine, I saw them throwing the suitcasees around. I
> don't think putting "Fragile - Do not bend" on them will help.

No wonder suitcases only last a trip or two... :-(

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: sms - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 23:36 UTC

On 3/1/2023 2:45 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> The thing has noise cancellation, but when activated I hear chirps now
> and then.

I have never heard chirps in my much less expensive noise cancelling
headphones.

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In article <i515djxmd8.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> I finally bought a pair of "good" headphones. Sennheiser HD 450BT.
> Around 130¤, and they were the pair on show, so I got a discount in the
> form fo free insurance. I'd prefer a rebate, but they don't do it.
>
> The thing has noise cancellation, but when activated I hear chirps now
> and then.

that's not normal.

> Otherwise, the sound quality seems good, and I did not
> experience cuts during a 90 minutes youtube real time streaming.

on the other hand, that is normal.

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 by: sms - Wed, 1 Mar 2023 23:51 UTC

On 3/1/2023 1:25 PM, micky wrote:

<snip>

> Yes, I have noise cancellation** headphones, also from Monoprice. I see
> they have 6 models now. When I bought mine 5 years ago, they had only
> one, and I don't have time right now to see which ones I got.
>
> The ones I bought run on 1, or maybe 2, AA batteries, which lasted for
> two 10 hour flights and then another two 3 years later. I brought a
> spare battery just in case for the second trip, but forgot to bring it
> with me and had to buy at the airport at a high price. But the first
> battery*** lasted the whole flight, and return.

I'm kind of torn on AA batteries versus rechargeable. My Monoprice
headphones use one AA battery. I have another set from TaoTronics
<https://www.androidcentral.com/taotronics-hybrid-anc-headphones-2019-review>
(discontinued) that use a rechargeable battery.

They are both big! For foreign travel we have become minimalists since
hauling around a lot of luggage is a pain if you're taking public
transit, which is what we try to do as much as possible. For domestic
travel it's not such a big deal as we have to rent a car most of the time.

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 by: The Real Bev - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 04:32 UTC

On 3/1/23 3:51 PM, sms wrote:
> On 3/1/2023 1:25 PM, micky wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Yes, I have noise cancellation** headphones, also from Monoprice. I see
>> they have 6 models now. When I bought mine 5 years ago, they had only
>> one, and I don't have time right now to see which ones I got.
>>
>> The ones I bought run on 1, or maybe 2, AA batteries, which lasted for
>> two 10 hour flights and then another two 3 years later. I brought a
>> spare battery just in case for the second trip, but forgot to bring it
>> with me and had to buy at the airport at a high price. But the first
>> battery*** lasted the whole flight, and return.
>
> I'm kind of torn on AA batteries versus rechargeable. My Monoprice
> headphones use one AA battery. I have another set from TaoTronics
> <https://www.androidcentral.com/taotronics-hybrid-anc-headphones-2019-review>
> (discontinued) that use a rechargeable battery.

Over the last decade I've tried several different Duracell
rechargeables, including the chargers that came with the sets, and even
the last ones that were supposed to retain 80% charge after a year were
gross failures. Moreover, Kirkland and Duracell alkalines leaked while
still in their packages. Maxells were even worse. I buy Energizers now
-- at least they claim they'll replace any item damaged if their
batteries leak. So far so good.

> They are both big! For foreign travel we have become minimalists since
> hauling around a lot of luggage is a pain if you're taking public
> transit, which is what we try to do as much as possible. For domestic
> travel it's not such a big deal as we have to rent a car most of the time.

--
Cheers, Bev
"The primary purpose of any government entity
is to employ the unemployable."

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 11:42 UTC

On 2023-03-02 00:36, sms wrote:
> On 3/1/2023 2:45 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>
>> The thing has noise cancellation, but when activated I hear chirps now
>> and then.
>
> I have never heard chirps in my much less expensive noise cancelling
> headphones.

I read a mention of them in some of the comments I read, maybe on
Amazon, but do not remember what model.

The issue is known, google finds it (noise cancelling headphones and
chirping noise)

<https://www.boseapac.com/en_in/support/articles/HC181/productCodes/a20/article.html.html.html.html>

Rhythmic chirping, ticking or beeping sounds from headphones

That must be a very expensive item, and doesn't exactly apply to mine.

Google says (can't find it on the linked site)

«Search for: Why are my headphones chirping?

Why is there a chirping sound in my Bluetooth headphones?
Your Bluetooth headset may start beeping due to interference by nearby
devices. Electronic devices such as cordless telephones, cellular
devices, etc., are the possible causes. Check if you have a cell phone
lying next to your PC and try to move it further to check for possible
interference.Nov 23, 2021»

Well, of course my cell is near and the PC is also near.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: nospam - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:51 UTC

In article <mle6djx9un.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> >> The thing has noise cancellation, but when activated I hear chirps now
> >> and then.
> >
> > I have never heard chirps in my much less expensive noise cancelling
> > headphones.
>
> I read a mention of them in some of the comments I read, maybe on
> Amazon, but do not remember what model.
>
> The issue is known, google finds it (noise cancelling headphones and
> chirping noise)

if it's on the internet, it must be true!

>
> <https://www.boseapac.com/en_in/support/articles/HC181/productCodes/a20/articl
> e.html.html.html.html>

that describes various solutions to the problem, and if none work, the
headphones might need servicing.

in other words, it's not normal.

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 by: Ken Blake - Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:59 UTC

On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:42:14 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2023-03-02 00:36, sms wrote:
>> On 3/1/2023 2:45 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The thing has noise cancellation, but when activated I hear chirps now
>>> and then.
>>
>> I have never heard chirps in my much less expensive noise cancelling
>> headphones.
>
>I read a mention of them in some of the comments I read, maybe on
>Amazon, but do not remember what model.
>
>The issue is known, google finds it (noise cancelling headphones and
>chirping noise)
>
><https://www.boseapac.com/en_in/support/articles/HC181/productCodes/a20/article.html.html.html.html>
>
>Rhythmic chirping, ticking or beeping sounds from headphones
>
>
>
>
>That must be a very expensive item, and doesn't exactly apply to mine.
>
>
>Google says (can't find it on the linked site)
>
>«Search for: Why are my headphones chirping?
>
>Why is there a chirping sound in my Bluetooth headphones?
>Your Bluetooth headset may start beeping due to interference by nearby
>devices. Electronic devices such as cordless telephones, cellular
>devices, etc., are the possible causes. Check if you have a cell phone
>lying next to your PC and try to move it further to check for possible
>interference.Nov 23, 2021»
>
>
>Well, of course my cell is near

Get back in your cell. We don't want any criminals here! <G>

>and the PC is also near.

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On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 07:51:56 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> if it's on the internet, it must be true!

If it was said by nospam, it must be true!

Re: Vodafone discontinues RCS and MMS support.

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 by: micky - Fri, 3 Mar 2023 19:08 UTC

In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 1 Mar 2023 15:51:40 -0800, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>On 3/1/2023 1:25 PM, micky wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Yes, I have noise cancellation** headphones, also from Monoprice. I see
>> they have 6 models now. When I bought mine 5 years ago, they had only
>> one, and I don't have time right now to see which ones I got.
>>
>> The ones I bought run on 1, or maybe 2, AA batteries, which lasted for
>> two 10 hour flights and then another two 3 years later. I brought a
>> spare battery just in case for the second trip, but forgot to bring it
>> with me and had to buy at the airport at a high price. But the first
>> battery*** lasted the whole flight, and return.
>
>I'm kind of torn on AA batteries versus rechargeable. My Monoprice
>headphones use one AA battery. I have another set from TaoTronics
><https://www.androidcentral.com/taotronics-hybrid-anc-headphones-2019-review>
>(discontinued) that use a rechargeable battery.
>
>They are both big!

I also have one of those neck pillows, and because I'm a literalist, I
think both the pillow and the headphones have to be INSIDE the computer
bag. But I did see other people, and they have them dangling from the
laptop bag shoulder strap. Anyhow I replaced the neck pillow with an
inflatable one, which I think is a little more comfortable when not
fully inflated, and it fits inside the bag.

And for the headphones, I used a string on my last trip and it twisted
around a lot, so I bought an S shaped link so it too can stay outside
the bag, but not fall off.

> For foreign travel we have become minimalists since
>hauling around a lot of luggage is a pain if you're taking public
>transit, which is what we try to do as much as possible. For domestic
>travel it's not such a big deal as we have to rent a car most of the time.

I'm single and I'm either thrifty or cheap, and I also take few
vacations but long ones, until recently when I've taken trips 4 years
out of 6, 2 months to 4 months long. And nothing makes me feel richer
than leaving the airport in my own rentacar, then returning to the
airport in the car. If I rent a month or more at a time, it comes to
about $30 a day (except the last trip where I think I was overcharged.
I have to write them abou tthat, this weekend). But I save money by
renting a room as a roommate and that's been running about $30 a day,
and about half of each trip I couldn't get the room I wanted and I slept
in my car. Sitting up, but European seats recline. At first I reclined
as far as possible, but later it was better to just do it a little bit.
That worked out really well. For one thing, I don't have to drive back
to my rented room, that could be 2 hours away and then 2 hours back the
next day. I find a nice place to park, maybe at the beach. I wake up
at dawn and have a long day ahead of me. When I sleep inside I tend to
wake up at 10 and not get outside until 11 or 12. Except without
trying I learned to sleep in the car until 9 or later.

BTW 4 months is too long. 2 or 3 months is good.

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