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* how/where can I change the ndr configNone
`* Re: how/where can I change the ndr configClaus Aßmann
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  +* Re: how/where can I change the ndr configGrant Taylor
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 by: None - Wed, 9 Feb 2022 12:12 UTC

how/where can I change the ndr config

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 by: Claus Aßmann - Wed, 9 Feb 2022 17:15 UTC

None wrote:
> how/where can I change the ndr config

What is "ndr"? "non-delivery-report"?

"What's the problem you are trying to solve?"

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Re: how/where can I change the ndr config

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 by: None - Wed, 9 Feb 2022 21:00 UTC

>
> What is "ndr"? "non-delivery-report"?

Yes the message being generated to the sender when the server is trying
to deliver a message, but receives a rejection of the recipient's server.

> "What's the problem you are trying to solve?"
>

I am using clamav-milter and when I send a message with the eicar test
string. This message is rejected by the recipient's server. But I do not
receive this rejected message, because the rejected message still has
the eicar attachment and is thus being rejected by the server that
handles incoming mail.

I guess the easiest fix would be, not to attach the original message to
this 'ndr'.

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From: gtay...@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
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 by: Grant Taylor - Thu, 10 Feb 2022 00:52 UTC

On 2/9/22 2:00 PM, None wrote:
> I am using clamav-milter and when I send a message with the eicar test
> string. This message is rejected by the recipient's server. But I do not
> receive this rejected message, because the rejected message still has
> the eicar attachment and is thus being rejected by the server that
> handles incoming mail.
>
> I guess the easiest fix would be, not to attach the original message to
> this 'ndr'.

I use the no-body-return (or however it's written) option to tell
Sendmail to not include message bodies in Delivery Status Notifications
(the official name for non-delivery-reports as I understand it).

I chose this option 15-20 years ago for the same type of problem but
with spam, not viruses.

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 by: Claus Aßmann - Thu, 10 Feb 2022 16:27 UTC

None wrote:

> I guess the easiest fix would be, not to attach the original message to
> this 'ndr'.

If I understand your problem correctly, you are sending an e-mail
-- to a server which is not under your control -- for which you
would like a "bounce" (DSN) but without the body.

So you have to configure your client to request exactly that
by using RET=HDRS in the MAIL command.
Check the documentation for whatever mail client you use
how to do that.

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 by: None - Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:49 UTC

> I use the no-body-return (or however it's written) option to tell
> Sendmail to not include message bodies in Delivery Status Notifications
> (the official name for non-delivery-reports as I understand it).

Thanks! I managed with changing this

define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',`authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl

to

define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',`authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,nobodyreturn,restrictqrun')dnl

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From: gtay...@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
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Subject: Re: how/where can I change the ndr config
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 by: Grant Taylor - Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:50 UTC

On 2/10/22 12:49 PM, None wrote:
> Thanks! I managed with changing this

You're welcome.

> define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS',`authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,nobodyreturn,restrictqrun')dnl

Ya, that looks like what I was failing to remember the syntax of the
other day.

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