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* cups and "Removing document files"William Unruh
`* Re: cups and "Removing document files"David W. Hodgins
 `* Re: cups and "Removing document files"William Unruh
  `* Re: cups and "Removing document files"Jim Whitby
   `* Re: cups and "Removing document files"William Unruh
    `* Re: cups and "Removing document files"David W. Hodgins
     `- Re: cups and "Removing document files"William Unruh

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Subject: cups and "Removing document files"
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 by: William Unruh - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:01 UTC

Cups is dumping error messages into my /var/log/cups/error_log file

D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] [Job 143] Removing document files.
D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(---J-)
D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Dirty files", busy="Dirty files"

But none of the files are actually removed from /var/spool/cups

Since I have about 20 cxxxxxx type files in /var/spool/cups it cycles
through these about 1 ever 10 sec giving me the above errors for each
of them.
I have put
PreserveJobHistory Yes
into /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
and restarted, but it makes no difference.

What can I do to stop this nonesense

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 18:31 UTC

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:01:27 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

> Cups is dumping error messages into my /var/log/cups/error_log file
>
> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] [Job 143] Removing document files.
> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(---J-)
> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Dirty files", busy="Dirty files"

Try running (as root) ...

systemctl stop cups.service
chgrp -cR lp /var/spool/cups
systemctl start cups.service
lpq

If the lpq then shows there are stopped jobs use lprm to remove them with
"lprm job-id(s)" replacing job-id(s) by the job numbers shown by lpq.

Regards Dave Hodgins

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Subject: Re: cups and "Removing document files"
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 by: William Unruh - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:21 UTC

On 2021-07-12, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:01:27 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> Cups is dumping error messages into my /var/log/cups/error_log file
>>
>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] [Job 143] Removing document files.
>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(---J-)
>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Dirty files", busy="Dirty files"
>
> Try running (as root) ...
>
> systemctl stop cups.service
> chgrp -cR lp /var/spool/cups
> systemctl start cups.service
> lpq
>
> If the lpq then shows there are stopped jobs use lprm to remove them with
> "lprm job-id(s)" replacing job-id(s) by the job numbers shown by lpq.

Unfortunately both /var/spool/cups and all files in it are already group
lp.

sudo ls -la /var/spool/cups
total 836
drwx--x--- 3 root lp 4096 Jul 12 09:44 .
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Feb 21 2020 ..
-rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 07:28 c00106
-rw------- 1 root lp 1045 Apr 20 11:44 c00107
-rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 08:45 c00108
-rw------- 1 root lp 825 Apr 20 09:26 c00109
-rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 09:11 c00110
-rw------- 1 root lp 1118 May 12 11:01 c00111
-rw------- 1 root lp 1114 May 24 14:11 c00112
....

And lpq -a shows empty.

sudo lpq -a
no entries

Should /var/spool/cups be readable/writeable by lp?
The above permission were what was installed by Mageia

Note that the above permissions are identical to those on another Mga8
machine where I do not get those error messages.

>
> Regards Dave Hodgins
>

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 by: Jim Whitby - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 23:09 UTC

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:21:39 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

> On 2021-07-12, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:01:27 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cups is dumping error messages into my /var/log/cups/error_log file
>>>
>>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] [Job 143] Removing document files.
>>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(---J-)
>>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Dirty
>>> files", busy="Dirty files"
>>
>> Try running (as root) ...
>>
>> systemctl stop cups.service chgrp -cR lp /var/spool/cups systemctl
>> start cups.service lpq
>>
>> If the lpq then shows there are stopped jobs use lprm to remove them
>> with "lprm job-id(s)" replacing job-id(s) by the job numbers shown by
>> lpq.
>
> Unfortunately both /var/spool/cups and all files in it are already group
> lp.
>
> sudo ls -la /var/spool/cups total 836 drwx--x--- 3 root lp 4096 Jul
> 12 09:44 .
> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Feb 21 2020 ..
> -rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 07:28 c00106 -rw------- 1 root lp
> 1045 Apr 20 11:44 c00107 -rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 08:45
> c00108 -rw------- 1 root lp 825 Apr 20 09:26 c00109 -rw------- 1
> root lp 1074 Apr 20 09:11 c00110 -rw------- 1 root lp 1118 May
> 12 11:01 c00111 -rw------- 1 root lp 1114 May 24 14:11 c00112 ...
>
> And lpq -a shows empty.
>
> sudo lpq -a no entries
>
> Should /var/spool/cups be readable/writeable by lp?
> The above permission were what was installed by Mageia
>
> Note that the above permissions are identical to those on another Mga8
> machine where I do not get those error messages.

Interesting. The group lp cannot read or write to these files.
Maybe changing the mode to 660 would help?

>
>
>> Regards Dave Hodgins
>>

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Subject: Re: cups and "Removing document files"
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 by: William Unruh - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 00:44 UTC

On 2021-07-12, Jim Whitby <news@spockmail.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:21:39 +0000, William Unruh wrote:
>
>> On 2021-07-12, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 13:01:27 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cups is dumping error messages into my /var/log/cups/error_log file
>>>>
>>>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] [Job 143] Removing document files.
>>>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdMarkDirty(---J-)
>>>> D [12/Jul/2021:09:48:37 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Dirty
>>>> files", busy="Dirty files"
>>>
>>> Try running (as root) ...
>>>
>>> systemctl stop cups.service chgrp -cR lp /var/spool/cups systemctl
>>> start cups.service lpq
>>>
>>> If the lpq then shows there are stopped jobs use lprm to remove them
>>> with "lprm job-id(s)" replacing job-id(s) by the job numbers shown by
>>> lpq.
>>
>> Unfortunately both /var/spool/cups and all files in it are already group
>> lp.
>>
>> sudo ls -la /var/spool/cups total 836 drwx--x--- 3 root lp 4096 Jul
>> 12 09:44 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Feb 21 2020 ..
>> -rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 07:28 c00106 -rw------- 1 root lp
>> 1045 Apr 20 11:44 c00107 -rw------- 1 root lp 1074 Apr 20 08:45
>> c00108 -rw------- 1 root lp 825 Apr 20 09:26 c00109 -rw------- 1
>> root lp 1074 Apr 20 09:11 c00110 -rw------- 1 root lp 1118 May
>> 12 11:01 c00111 -rw------- 1 root lp 1114 May 24 14:11 c00112 ...
>>
>> And lpq -a shows empty.
>>
>> sudo lpq -a no entries
>>
>> Should /var/spool/cups be readable/writeable by lp?
>> The above permission were what was installed by Mageia
>>
>> Note that the above permissions are identical to those on another Mga8
>> machine where I do not get those error messages.
>
> Interesting. The group lp cannot read or write to these files.
> Maybe changing the mode to 660 would help?
>
Yes. It is the same on two different computers, one of which does not
give those error messages, and the other which does. I tried to change
the permission to rwxrwx--- with root.lp, but that makes no difference
either.

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 01:05 UTC

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:44:49 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
> Yes. It is the same on two different computers, one of which does not
> give those error messages, and the other which does. I tried to change
> the permission to rwxrwx--- with root.lp, but that makes no difference
> either.

Try running the lpq command again with those permissions.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: William Unruh - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 04:30 UTC

On 2021-07-13, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:44:49 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
>> Yes. It is the same on two different computers, one of which does not
>> give those error messages, and the other which does. I tried to change
>> the permission to rwxrwx--- with root.lp, but that makes no difference
>> either.
>
> Try running the lpq command again with those permissions.

Yes, I did.
No change. Nothing waiting to print.

However I did discover that something (not msec) is changing the
permissions back to 710
>

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