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* Installing "obsolete" applicationsAr
+- Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsDavid W. Hodgins
+* Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsfaeychild
|`* Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsWilliam Unruh
| `* Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsfaeychild
|  +- Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsWilliam Unruh
|  `* Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsDavid W. Hodgins
|   `- Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsfaeychild
`- Re: Installing "obsolete" applicationsGilberto F da Silva

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 by: Ar - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:24 UTC

I heavily used kaudiocreator as the best CD ripper, recently moved to
Mageia 8, I find it has been deleted. I found a Mageia 7 repo and I
tried to install it, and it came up with:

urpmi /home/Someuser/kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm

installing kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm from
/home/Someuser
Installation failed: kaudiocreator < 1.3-8.git20191114.4 is obsoleted by
(installed) task-obsolete-8-294.mga8.noarch

Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

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From: dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins)
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Subject: Re: Installing "obsolete" applications
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 by: David W. Hodgins - Thu, 22 Jul 2021 18:43 UTC

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 12:24:44 -0400, Ar <Ar@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> I heavily used kaudiocreator as the best CD ripper, recently moved to
> Mageia 8, I find it has been deleted. I found a Mageia 7 repo and I
> tried to install it, and it came up with:
> urpmi /home/Someuser/kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm
> installing kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm from
> /home/Someuser
> Installation failed: kaudiocreator < 1.3-8.git20191114.4 is obsoleted by
> (installed) task-obsolete-8-294.mga8.noarch
> Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
> used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

Short answer is no. Long answer is that it may work if you force it's installation
by removing the obsoletes package first (urpme task-obsolete), however installing
kaudiocreator is likely to break the plasma installation on that system. That's due
to the package requiring old libraries that interfere with other plasma packages.

As the package https://github.com/KDE/kaudiocreator hasn't been maintained for
years, kde.org chose to drop the package. The recommendation is to use one of the
other tools such as k3b or soundkonverter instead.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Subject: Re: Installing "obsolete" applications
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 by: faeychild - Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:31 UTC

On 23/7/21 2:24 am, Ar wrote:

> Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
> used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

I have a similar problem with dvdstyler. Fortunately I have a Mageia 6
partition to run it in.

I think that being on the cusp of optical disk obsolescence makes it
less of a problem

Handbrake is able to rip DVD's not that I've done it

Also K3b will rip DVD's. In the Advanced section of the Copy dialog
checking "Ignore Read Errors" has gotten me past copy protection and
the resulting "ISO" file has played flawlessly when the original DVD
would not (region errors)

Regards
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faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.10.41-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

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From: unr...@invalid.ca (William Unruh)
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Subject: Re: Installing "obsolete" applications
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 by: William Unruh - Sat, 24 Jul 2021 03:00 UTC

On 2021-07-23, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 23/7/21 2:24 am, Ar wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
>> used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".
>
> I have a similar problem with dvdstyler. Fortunately I have a Mageia 6
> partition to run it in.
>
> I think that being on the cusp of optical disk obsolescence makes it
> less of a problem
>
> Handbrake is able to rip DVD's not that I've done it
>
> Also K3b will rip DVD's. In the Advanced section of the Copy dialog
> checking "Ignore Read Errors" has gotten me past copy protection and
> the resulting "ISO" file has played flawlessly when the original DVD
> would not (region errors)

And even better if you get k3b to use cdrecord (cdrtools) instead of wodin(cdrkit).
But yes, optical disks are disappering.

>
> Regards

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 by: faeychild - Sat, 24 Jul 2021 23:16 UTC

On 24/7/21 1:00 pm, William Unruh wrote:

>
> And even better if you get k3b to use cdrecord (cdrtools) instead of wodin(cdrkit).
> But yes, optical disks are disappering.
>
>>
>> Regards

That has been on my back burner for years.
I know that someone had a script to install cdrecord and install the links.
The way things are going, though, it may be like the horse trough and
hitching rail I always meant to set up :-)

regards

faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.10.41-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

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 by: William Unruh - Sun, 25 Jul 2021 00:08 UTC

On 2021-07-24, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 24/7/21 1:00 pm, William Unruh wrote:
>
>>
>> And even better if you get k3b to use cdrecord (cdrtools) instead of wodin(cdrkit).
>> But yes, optical disks are disappering.
>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>
> That has been on my back burner for years.
> I know that someone had a script to install cdrecord and install the links.
> The way things are going, though, it may be like the horse trough and
> hitching rail I always meant to set up :-)

You can download cdrtools source from the OpenMageia web site
http://rpmfind.net/linux/openmandriva/4.2/repository/x86_64/main/release/

cdrtools-3.02-5-omv4002.x86_64.rpm

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Sun, 25 Jul 2021 01:15 UTC
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On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:16:12 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> That has been on my back burner for years.
> I know that someone had a script to install cdrecord and install the links.
> The way things are going, though, it may be like the horse trough and
> hitching rail I always meant to set up :-)

The script is attached. I stopped replacing failed dvd drives (they don't like
heavy cigarette smokers) and haven't tried the script in years. No idea what
changes it may need to work with Mageia 8.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: faeychild - Sun, 25 Jul 2021 23:10 UTC

On 25/7/21 11:15 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:

>
> The script is attached. I stopped replacing failed dvd drives (they
> don't like

Well an open vented construction and fans pulling in dust laden air is
always a problem with CD drives The lens cleaner can only do so much

> heavy cigarette smokers) and haven't tried the script in years. No idea
> what
> changes it may need to work with Mageia 8.
..

I found that I have an older copy also. The newer one is greater by 322
bytes. It can't hurt to have it.

Thanks

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.10.41-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

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 by: Gilberto F da Silva - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 23:23 UTC

Ar wrote:
> I heavily used kaudiocreator as the best CD ripper, recently moved to
> Mageia 8, I find it has been deleted. I found a Mageia 7 repo and I
> tried to install it, and it came up with:
>
> urpmi /home/Someuser/kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm
>
> installing kaudiocreator-1.3-8.git20161216.5.mga7.x86_64.rpm from
> /home/Someuser
> Installation failed: kaudiocreator < 1.3-8.git20191114.4 is obsoleted by
> (installed) task-obsolete-8-294.mga8.noarch
>
>
> Is there a way to force the intallation, it's an outrage to just delete
> used applications and pick from vastly inferior ones as a "replacement".

When I asked for Superkaramba, someone said he was a dead program.

After some time they indicated the TDE, he owns the Superkaramba and
probably many other old programs. Unfortunately, the Mageia version is
with bug. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php

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