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Subject: SD-44 fails above USER 6 on RunCPM
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 by: KenUnix - Sat, 28 Jan 2023 20:33 UTC

SD-44 if a nice directory Lister

A6>SD-44 *.TXT
INFO .TXT 4k | SQUEEZE .TXT 12k
->Drive A, user 6 contains 16K in 2 files with 7228K free

A6>SD-44 *.JAZ
NO FILE on A - 7228K free
A6>

When running SD-44 if the USER # is above 6
it returns "User # ERROR".

Example: A[0-6] OK but A[7] fails.

Is there a fix for this of is the source available?

I don't believe it is RunCPM dependent.

Thanks

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 by: dxforth - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 01:17 UTC

On 29/01/2023 7:33 am, KenUnix wrote:
> SD-44 if a nice directory Lister
>
> A6>SD-44 *.TXT
> INFO .TXT 4k | SQUEEZE .TXT 12k
> ->Drive A, user 6 contains 16K in 2 files with 7228K free
>
> A6>SD-44 *.JAZ
> NO FILE on A - 7228K free
> A6>
>
> When running SD-44 if the USER # is above 6
> it returns "User # ERROR".
>
> Example: A[0-6] OK but A[7] fails.
>
> Is there a fix for this of is the source available?
>
> I don't believe it is RunCPM dependent.
>
> Thanks

SD has assembly-time options for setting max drive and user numbers.
Could be that. Source for SD-44 is on SIG/M vol 66.

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Subject: Re: SD-44 fails above USER 6 on RunCPM
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 by: Lawrence Woodman - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 07:22 UTC

On Saturday, 28 January 2023 at 20:33:06 UTC, KenUnix wrote:
> When running SD-44 if the USER # is above 6
> it returns "User # ERROR".
> Is there a fix for this of is the source available?

One of the reasons for this is that it was useful to be able to restrict
what users could see on RCPM systems.

I did a video a while ago which shows how to configure SD for more drives,
more user areas, different terminals, etc. You may find it useful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UD271LLFL8

Best wishes

Lorry

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Where could I locate SIG/M vol 66 ?

Thanks

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 by: fridtjof.ma...@gmail - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:07 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:08:39 PM UTC-5, KenUnix wrote:
> Where could I locate SIG/M vol 66 ?
>
> Thanks
http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/

https://www.dropbox.com/s/njykmq1ei7vg2w6/SD-44.ASM?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7knjqgvjk2ak20haob4vf/SD-43.DOC?dl=0&rlkey=2w187hw9q1dsbrsn2psjukez6

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 by: fridtjof.ma...@gmail - Sun, 29 Jan 2023 19:12 UTC

On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:07:52 PM UTC-5, fridtjof.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 12:08:39 PM UTC-5, KenUnix wrote:
> > Where could I locate SIG/M vol 66 ?
> >
> > Thanks
> http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/njykmq1ei7vg2w6/SD-44.ASM?dl=0
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7knjqgvjk2ak20haob4vf/SD-43.DOC?dl=0&rlkey=2w187hw9q1dsbrsn2psjukez6
http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/ftp.php?b=cpm%2FSoftware%2FUserGroups%2FSIGM%2Fsigmv066

is a direct link (SIG/M was before the internet was common).

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I really hate to ask stupid questions but after I ASM SD-40 how do I convert the HEX file to a COM file?

I tried HEXTOCOM SD-44 but it produces no output.

P7>HEXTOCOM SD-44
HexToCom v1.05 / 10 Jan 2016
(c) 2007-2016 FloppySoftware
HexToCom: Opening HEX file.
RunCPM Version 6.0 (CP/M 60K)

P7>DIR *.COM
P: CRCK COM | HEXTOCOM COM

Thanks

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On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 3:29:54 PM UTC-5, KenUnix wrote:
> I really hate to ask stupid questions but after I ASM SD-40 how do I convert the HEX file to a COM file?
>
> I tried HEXTOCOM SD-44 but it produces no output.
>
> P7>HEXTOCOM SD-44
> HexToCom v1.05 / 10 Jan 2016
> (c) 2007-2016 FloppySoftware
> HexToCom: Opening HEX file.
> RunCPM Version 6.0 (CP/M 60K)
>
> P7>DIR *.COM
> P: CRCK COM | HEXTOCOM COM
>
>
> Thanks
The command sequence:

ASM SD-44
LOAD SD-44

ASM will convert SD-44.ASM to SD-44.HEX (and SD-44.PRN)
LOAD will convert SD-44.HEX to SD-44.COM

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fridtjof,

ASM went OK. But got this on LOAD:

P7>LOAD SD-44

ERROR: INVERTED LOAD ADDRESS, LOAD ADDRESS 0000
P7>

Ken

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 by: Steven Hirsch - Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:17 UTC

On 1/29/23 20:40, KenUnix wrote:
> fridtjof,
>
> ASM went OK. But got this on LOAD:
>
> P7>LOAD SD-44
>
> ERROR: INVERTED LOAD ADDRESS, LOAD ADDRESS 0000
> P7>
>
> Ken

The source ends up assembling for ORG 0 when you use ASM. I suspect DRI
ASM.COM is tripping over an equate or pseudo-op.

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On 30/01/2023 1:17 pm, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> On 1/29/23 20:40, KenUnix wrote:
>> fridtjof,
>>
>> ASM went OK. But got this on LOAD:
>>
>> P7>LOAD SD-44
>>
>> ERROR: INVERTED LOAD ADDRESS, LOAD ADDRESS 0000
>> P7>
>>
>> Ken
>
> The source ends up assembling for ORG 0 when you use ASM.  I suspect DRI ASM.COM is tripping over an equate or pseudo-op.
>

Needs MAC (or RMAC with equate set) as it uses macros. ASM spits out errors.

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Went back to SD-42 with these results:

P7>ASM SD-42
CP/M ASSEMBLER - VER 2.0
N FILL MACRO BYTES,WITH
L REPT BYTES
U0000 00 DB WITH
N ENDM
N ENDM
S $-MACRO
N TITLE 'SD Version 4.2 - 25 Oct 1981'
U IF NPL LT 4 ;If printing less than 4 wide ..
0790
008H USE FACTOR
END OF ASSEMBLY

P7>LOAD SD-42

ERROR: INVERTED LOAD ADDRESS, LOAD ADDRESS 0000
P7>

Same results with RMAC set to FALSE or TRUE?

Ken

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 by: fridtjof.ma...@gmail - Mon, 30 Jan 2023 13:19 UTC

On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:34:08 AM UTC-5, KenUnix wrote:
> Went back to SD-42 with these results:
>
> P7>ASM SD-42
> CP/M ASSEMBLER - VER 2.0
> N FILL MACRO BYTES,WITH
> L REPT BYTES
> U0000 00 DB WITH
> N ENDM
> N ENDM
> S $-MACRO
> N TITLE 'SD Version 4.2 - 25 Oct 1981'
> U IF NPL LT 4 ;If printing less than 4 wide ..
> 0790
> 008H USE FACTOR
> END OF ASSEMBLY
>
> P7>LOAD SD-42
> ERROR: INVERTED LOAD ADDRESS, LOAD ADDRESS 0000
> P7>
> Same results with RMAC set to FALSE or TRUE?
>
> Ken
I did a conversion to sd44.mac to assemble with Microsoft M80. Note that"back in the day" there were
quite a few assemblers. ASM, MAC, RMAC from Digital Research. M80 from Microsoft. LASM and others.

This source is interesting... probably MAC and RMAC. ASM didn't support MACRO. I use M80, as that
was my "go to" assembler back in the day. Command lines are

m80 =sd44
l80 /p:100,sd44,sd44/n/e

(You need M80.COM and L80.COM -- supplied with any Microsoft product back then).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eowdsajpmapz519/sd44.mac?dl=0

FredW

m80 =sd44

No Fatal error(s)

l80 /p:100,sd44,sd44/n/e

Link-80 3.44 09-Dec-81 Copyright (c) 1981 Microsoft

Data 0100 09E0 < 2272>

51546 Bytes Free
[0000 09E0 9]

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On Monday, 30 January 2023 at 11:34:08 UTC, KenUnix wrote:
> Went back to SD-42 with these results:
>
> [SNIP]
> Same results with RMAC set to FALSE or TRUE?

I'd use a later version, SD 138b can be found here:
http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr

This is the version used in the video and will work with regular ASM.

Lorry

---
Modula-2 Compilers on CP/M
https://techtinkering.com/articles/modula-2-compilers-on-cpm/

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Subject: Re: SD-44 fails above USER 6 on RunCPM
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 by: KenUnix - Mon, 30 Jan 2023 23:37 UTC

fridtjof,

That did the ticket as far as compiling. I adjusted the table at the end to allow for drives A - P.

But now I can't see beyond drive X:. User numbers are not working.

B7>SD44 B2:

NO FILE on B - 7244K free <<<---

B7>SD44 B:

INFO .TXT 4k READ .ME 4k RFILE .DAT 4k Z80CCP .ARK 20k
Z80CCP .ASM 36k Z80UTIL .LBR 56k
Drive B, user 7 contains 124K in 6 files with 7244K free

B7>B2: <<<---
B2>SD44

BUILD .TXT 4k HIST .MAC 12k INFO .TXT 4k LDBLD .MAC 12k
RANTEST .ASC 4k README .TXT 4k SIDCMD .MAC 44k SIDLA .MAC 20k
SIDRELO .MAC 52k TRACE .MAC 8k WS4 .$$$ 0k XSID .LIB 4k
XSIDLOAD.MAC 16k ZSIDLA .MAC 40k ZSIDO .MAC 4k ZSIDREL .MAC 112k
Drive B, user 2 contains 340K in 16 files with 7244K free
B2>

Silly me. I had to use:

SD44 L80.COM $AD

OR

P7>SD44 A:SD44.COM $U0

SD44 .COM 4k
Drive A, user 0 contains 4K in 1 files with 7260K free
P7>

Works!!! Thanks

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Subject: Re: SD-44 fails above USER 6 on RunCPM
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Lorry,

The link posted does not work ?

http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr

Ken

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Subject: Re: SD-44 fails above USER 6 on RunCPM
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On Monday, 30 January 2023 at 23:41:50 UTC, KenUnix wrote:
> The link posted does not work ?
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr

Sorry, the link must have moved here it is now:
http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr

This is a file on the Walnut Creek CD in directory: /enterprs/cpm/utils/s/
http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/ftp.php?b=cpm%2FSoftware%2FWalnutCD%2Fenterprs%2Fcpm%2Futils%2Fs

Lorry

---
Modula-2 Compilers on CP/M
https://techtinkering.com/articles/modula-2-compilers-on-cpm/

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On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 2:03:23 AM UTC-5, lorryw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 30 January 2023 at 23:41:50 UTC, KenUnix wrote:
> > The link posted does not work ?
> >
> > http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr
> Sorry, the link must have moved here it is now:
> http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr
>
> This is a file on the Walnut Creek CD in directory: /enterprs/cpm/utils/s/
> http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/ftp.php?b=cpm%2FSoftware%2FWalnutCD%2Fenterprs%2Fcpm%2Futils%2Fs
> Lorry
>
> ---
> Modula-2 Compilers on CP/M
> https://techtinkering.com/articles/modula-2-compilers-on-cpm/

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 by: Lawrence Nelson - Thu, 2 Feb 2023 04:02 UTC

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 2:03:23 AM UTC-5, lorryw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 30 January 2023 at 23:41:50 UTC, KenUnix wrote:
> > The link posted does not work ?
> >
> > http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr
> Sorry, the link must have moved here it is now:
> http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/WalnutCD/enterprs/cpm/utils/s/sd138b.lbr
>
> This is a file on the Walnut Creek CD in directory: /enterprs/cpm/utils/s/
> http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/ftp.php?b=cpm%2FSoftware%2FWalnutCD%2Fenterprs%2Fcpm%2Futils%2Fs
> Lorry
>
> ---
> Modula-2 Compilers on CP/M
> https://techtinkering.com/articles/modula-2-compilers-on-cpm/
Version 44 of SD seems ancient. I think last version was 138!

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