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* Unrecognised warning messageGrimble
+* Re: Unrecognised warning messageDavid W. Hodgins
|`* Re: Unrecognised warning messagered floyd
| `* Re: Unrecognised warning messageDavid W. Hodgins
|  `* Re: Unrecognised warning messagered floyd
|   `* Re: Unrecognised warning messageDavid W. Hodgins
|    `* Re: Unrecognised warning messageWilliam Unruh
|     `* Re: Unrecognised warning messagefaeychild
|      +- Re: Unrecognised warning messageAragorn
|      `- Re: Unrecognised warning messageJim
`* Re: Unrecognised warning messageGrimble
 `* Re: Unrecognised warning messageDavid W. Hodgins
  +- Re: Unrecognised warning messageBobbie Sellers
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Unrecognised warning message

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From: grim...@nomail.afraid.org (Grimble)
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Subject: Unrecognised warning message
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 by: Grimble - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 15:34 UTC

I found the following in my mail box:
<
From: root@localhost
Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
Status: R

Load is huge: 3.58
>
Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search
target. Any ideas why/what?
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Machine 'Haydn' running Plasma 5.20.4 on 5.10.60-desktop-2.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64

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From: dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins)
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 by: David W. Hodgins - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:32 UTC

On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 11:34:35 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> I found the following in my mail box:
> <
> From: root@localhost
> Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
> X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
> Status: R
>
> Load is huge: 3.58
> >
> Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search
> target. Any ideas why/what?

https://www.howtogeek.com/194642/understanding-the-load-average-on-linux-and-other-unix-like-systems/

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: red floyd - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 16:39 UTC

On 9/1/2021 9:32 AM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 11:34:35 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I found the following in my mail box:
>> <
>> From: root@localhost
>> Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
>> X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
>> Date: Wed,  1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
>> Status: R
>>
>> Load is huge: 3.58
>>  >
>> Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search
>> target. Any ideas why/what?
>
> https://www.howtogeek.com/194642/understanding-the-load-average-on-linux-and-other-unix-like-systems/
>

What kind of system considers a 3.58 load average as huge?

[Begin Old Man Rant]
Back in the '80s, my university ran BSD 4.2 (not Open/Free/Net, but
the original) on a Vax 11/780. Load average was probably around 7,
but during the last week of the semester it averaged 30+, with spikes
to 70... and it DID NOT CRASH.

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 17:37 UTC

On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 12:39:59 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
> What kind of system considers a 3.58 load average as huge?

A single or dual core system. On my qaud core ...
$ uptime
13:32:56 up 2 days, 20:28, 2 users, load average: 0.94, 0.85, 0.86

Unlike old systems from back in the 80's, the bulk of the processes are used to
provide interactive responses, so someone is sitting there waiting for them
when they are running or waiting to run.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: red floyd - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:11 UTC

On 9/1/2021 10:37 AM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 12:39:59 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid>
> wrote:
>> What kind of system considers a 3.58 load average as huge?
>
> A single or dual core system. On my qaud core ...
> $ uptime
>  13:32:56 up 2 days, 20:28,  2 users,  load average: 0.94, 0.85, 0.86
>
> Unlike old systems from back in the 80's, the bulk of the processes are
> used to
> provide interactive responses, so someone is sitting there waiting for them
> when they are running or waiting to run.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
>
I did warn that it was an "Old Man Rant"....

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Wed, 1 Sep 2021 19:18 UTC

On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:11:55 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
> I did warn that it was an "Old Man Rant"....

My first programming started in 75 with optical sense cards and later, card punches.
:-)

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: Grimble - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:57 UTC

On 01/09/2021 16:34, Grimble wrote:
> I found the following in my mail box:
> <
> From: root@localhost
> Subject: DrakLog Mail Alert
> X-Mailer: Mail::Mailer[v2.21] Net::SMTP[v3.11]
> Date: Wed,  1 Sep 2021 05:01:01 +0100 (BST)
> Status: R
>
> Load is huge: 3.58
> >
> Google doesn't recognise "draklog mail alert load is huge" as a search
> target. Any ideas why/what?
Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
be worried about.

--
Grimble
Machine 'Haydn' running Plasma 5.20.4 on 5.10.60-desktop-2.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64

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 by: David W. Hodgins - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 19:28 UTC

On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:57:14 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
> running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
> be worried about.

Correct. There are a lot of legacy warnings built in that should be reviewed.
In this case it dates back to when dual core systems were a novelty. As they
are just cosmetic, that's not a high priority.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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 by: Bobbie Sellers - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 20:21 UTC

On 9/2/21 12:28, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:57:14 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
>> running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
>> be worried about.
>
> Correct. There are a lot of legacy warnings built in that should be
> reviewed.
> In this case it dates back to when dual core systems were a novelty. As
> they
> are just cosmetic, that's not a high priority.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

And you may get better result as you move to 5.14.x which has
modification specifically directed toward the new Ryzen processors from
AMD.
You can read more about and adventurous people no not me have
already compiled and tested the RC on their Ryzen machnes.
<https://9to5linux.com/linux-kernel-5-14-officially-released-this-is-whats-new>

bliss don't use Mageia but has and honors its ancestors.

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 by: William Unruh - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:47 UTC

On 2021-09-01, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2021 15:11:55 -0400, red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> wrote:
>> I did warn that it was an "Old Man Rant"....
>
> My first programming started in 75 with optical sense cards and later, card punches.
>:-)

For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It did
multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables (Addresses 100-200 for addition
and 200-400 for multiplication if I recall correctly. So 1+1 could well
be 5 if you wanted.)

>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

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 by: faeychild - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 21:45 UTC

On 4/9/21 2:47 am, William Unruh wrote:

> For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
> switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It did
> multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables (Addresses 100-200 for addition
> and 200-400 for multiplication if I recall correctly. So 1+1 could well
> be 5 if you wanted.)

I once heard that 2 X 2 = 5
but only for extremely large values of 2

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.10.60-desktop-2.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

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 by: Aragorn - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:22 UTC

On 04.09.2021 at 07:45, faeychild scribbled:

> On 4/9/21 2:47 am, William Unruh wrote:
>
> > For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
> > switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It
> > did multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables
> > (Addresses 100-200 for addition and 200-400 for multiplication if I
> > recall correctly. So 1+1 could well be 5 if you wanted.)
>
>
> I once heard that 2 X 2 = 5
> but only for extremely large values of 2
Well, in some of the early Pentium processors, 4/2 was actually
1.99999... :p

--
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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 by: Jim - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:49 UTC

On Sat, 04 Sep 2021 07:45:13 +1000, faeychild wrote:

> On 4/9/21 2:47 am, William Unruh wrote:
>
>> For me 64 with punched tape and punched cards, or even flipping the
>> switches on the front panel of a 1620. An interesting machine. It did
>> multiplication and addition using decimal lookup tables (Addresses
>> 100-200 for addition and 200-400 for multiplication if I recall
>> correctly. So 1+1 could well be 5 if you wanted.)
>
>
> I once heard that 2 X 2 = 5 but only for extremely large values of 2

Try 2.3 + 2.3 = 4.6 which rounds off to 5.

Or 2.6 + 2.6 = 5.2 trunctated to one digit yields 5.

As the tax attorney presented with a sample case by a
prospective client proposed, "What would you like the
tax to be?"

Cheers!

jim b.

--
UNIX is not user-unfriendly, it merely
expects users to be computer friendly.

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 by: Daniel65 - Thu, 23 Sep 2021 07:24 UTC

David W. Hodgins wrote on 3/9/21 5:28 am:
> On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:57:14 -0400, Grimble <grimble@nomail.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments. This is a 6-core Ryzen CPU, 3 of which are
>> running Boinc, so if I understand your link, Dave, 3.58 ain't nuthin' to
>> be worried about.
>
> Correct. There are a lot of legacy warnings built in that should be
> reviewed.
> In this case it dates back to when dual core systems were a novelty. As
> they
> are just cosmetic, that's not a high priority.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>
.... and, in this day and age when six or more cores are common, could we
again say "dual core systems were a novelty"?? ;-P
--
Daniel

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