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 by: HenHanna - Mon, 4 Mar 2024 23:58 UTC

On 5/2/2006 1:58 PM, Mark Crispin wrote:
> I just discovered something about Japanese Windows that may be useful to
> pass on to other non-Japanese who use Japanese software on Windows.
>
> Even though my laptop (a Victor MP-XP741) is a proper Japanese PC with
> Japanese Windows as the OS, I had problems with some Japanese software
> displaying characters correctly. Most software had no problem.
>
> However, some texts of Norton Anti-Virus, 携快電話, and WinDVD
> would display as a string of "?" or other incorrect characters. It was
> only some texts, not all texts in the application. I suffered with this
> problem for over a year before I finally discovered the cause.
>
> When a person uses a foreign Windows PC, he will usually use the Regional
> and Language Options (地域と言語のオプション) control panel to be
> in his native language environment.
>
> One of these areas in this control panel is Standards and Formats
> (標準と形式), which set the way that numbers, currency, dates,
> and the time are displayed. For convenience, there is drop-down menu
> of languages that will set all of these at once to the form preferred
> in that language. Not surprisingly, I changed this from 日本語
> to 英語(米国)on my laptop.
>
> This was the cause of the problem. Apparently, some buggy text output
> routines use the "language" in Standards and Formats to set the script
> for text to be output. This is completely wrong; software should always
> output text in the script of that text. It certainly should not use a
> convenience dropdown in Standards and Formats for that purpose!
>
> The solution, for a gaijin using a Japanese Windows PC, is NOT to set
> the language in 標準と形式 to his native language. Instead, leave
> it set as 日本語, and then use the クスタマイズ button to
> change each of the various standards and formats individually to the
> form that is preferred in his native language.
>
>
> By the way, in multi-lingual versions of Windows, there is a setting,
> under Language (言語) in the Regional and Language Options
> (地域と言語のオプション) control panel, to set the language for
> menus and dialog. That is the correct way to set the language in a
> multi-lingual environment.
>
> Single-language versions do not have this option; I don't think
> that Japanese Windows exists except as a single-language version.
> However, English Windows with a language pack adds it.
>
> -- Mark --
>
> http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
> Si vis pacem, para bellum.

---------- Is this a problem encountered by others???

Re: Japanese Windows usage hint for non-Japanese

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 by: HenHanna - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 00:11 UTC

> On 5/2/2006, Mark Crispin wrote:
>> I just discovered something about Japanese Windows that may be useful to
>> pass on to other non-Japanese who use Japanese software on Windows.
>>
>> Even though my laptop (a Victor MP-XP741) is a proper Japanese PC with
>> Japanese Windows as the OS, I had problems with some Japanese software
>> displaying characters correctly. Most software had no problem.
>>
>> However, some texts of Norton Anti-Virus, 携快電話, and WinDVD
>> would display as a string of "?" or other incorrect characters.

Did he visit Japan often?

Did he study Japanese?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bishoujo

1989 September 23, Mark Crispin, “bringing stuff into the US from Japan”, in soc.culture.japan (Usenet):

If you are into bishojo, loli-con, or bishonen materials, be advised that customs *does* frown on what might be considered pornography.

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 by: HenHanna - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:59 UTC

>> On 5/2/2006, Mark Crispin wrote:
>>> I just discovered something about Japanese Windows that may be useful to
>>> pass on to other non-Japanese who use Japanese software on Windows.
>>>
>>> Even though my laptop (a Victor MP-XP741) is a proper Japanese PC with
>>> Japanese Windows as the OS, I had problems with some Japanese software
>>> displaying characters correctly. Most software had no problem.
>>>
>>> However, some texts of Norton Anti-Virus, 携快電話, and WinDVD
>>> would display as a string of "?" or other incorrect characters.

> Did he visit Japan often? Did he study Japanese?

> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bishoujo
>
> 1989 September 23, Mark Crispin, “bringing stuff into the US from Japan”, in soc.culture.japan (Usenet):
>
> If you are into bishojo, loli-con, or bishonen materials, be advised that customs *does* frown on what might be considered pornography.

He must have studied Jp....

_____________________________how to say "will you marry me?" in Japanese?

Mark Crispin

On 2 Jun 1996, Ming Pan wrote: > just curious about how to say that to a Japanese girl.

Most simply:
kekkon-shite kureru?
= marry-doing give-to-me?

Here's a traditional, somewhat romantic one:

cho^shoku no miso-shiru wo tsukutte kureru?
= morning-meal's miso soup <object> making give-to-me?
= Will you make my breakfast miso soup?

[Beware, some smart-alek girls have been known to plop down a bowl of miso
soup the next morning in answer to this particular invitation.]

-- Mark --

DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot FAX: (206) 842-0758 ICBM: N 47.36'24" W 122.34'08"
TOPS-20: A Great Improvement Over Its Successors

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 by: Tilde - Wed, 6 Mar 2024 05:18 UTC

HenHanna wrote:
>
> On 5/2/2006 1:58 PM, Mark Crispin wrote:
>> I just discovered something about Japanese Windows that may be useful to
>> pass on to other non-Japanese who use Japanese software on Windows.

>
>       ---------- Is this a problem  encountered by others???

Um, huh? That post is from 2006. Not sure of what you're
asking.

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