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From: dal...@dalekelly.org (Dale)
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 by: Dale - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 01:29 UTC

Hi,

I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check the
front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on validator on
each page.

https://www.dalekelly.org/

CSS validator icon doesn't show up on my page but when I click on its
empty space "Valid CSS!" text shows up and then it goes to a page saying
"Connection timed out" Error Code 522

Same errors with Chrome/Edge as with Chrome

HTML validator icon shows up on my page and works.

Here are the codes ...

<a href="https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
src="https://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401" alt="Valid HTML 4.01
Strict" height="31" width="88"></a>

<a href="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer"><img
style="border:0;width:88px;height:31px"
src="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss-blue" alt="Valid
CSS!" ></a>

Also, how can I edit these so they go back to checking each separate
page and not just the front page?

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 by: Y Lee Coyote - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 01:58 UTC

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 20:29:43 -0500, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote in
<tqi3i7$2qve2$1@dont-email.me>:

>Hi,
>
>I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check the
>front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on validator on
>each page.
>
>https://www.dalekelly.org/
>
>
>CSS validator icon doesn't show up on my page but when I click on its
>empty space "Valid CSS!" text shows up and then it goes to a page saying
>"Connection timed out" Error Code 522
>
>Same errors with Chrome/Edge as with Chrome
>
>HTML validator icon shows up on my page and works.
>
>Here are the codes ...
>
>
><a href="https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
>src="https://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401" alt="Valid HTML 4.01
>Strict" height="31" width="88"></a>
>
><a href="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer"><img
>style="border:0;width:88px;height:31px"
>src="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss-blue" alt="Valid
>CSS!" ></a>
>
>
>Also, how can I edit these so they go back to checking each separate
>page and not just the front page?

You are using the icons wrong. They are labels that you add to tell the
user the page is valid. There is not any reason for a user to check your
code.

The links are INVALID. Try <<www.htmlvalidator.com>> (there a free
version) to see your link errors.

Y
P&E

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 by: Dale - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 02:18 UTC

On 1/21/2023 8:29 PM, Dale wrote:
> CSS validator icon doesn't show up on my page but when I click on its
> empty space "Valid CSS!" text shows up and then it goes to a page saying
> "Connection timed out" Error Code 522

If I use the link to the CSS validator icon in my browser, outside of
the full code, it shows up after awhile ...

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss-blue

The HTML icon shows up right away ...

https://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401

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 by: Dale - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 02:37 UTC

On 1/21/2023 8:29 PM, Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>

>
> Here is the CSS validator code ...
>
>
> <a href="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer"><img
> style="border:0;width:88px;height:31px"
> src="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss-blue" alt="Valid
> CSS!" ></a>
>
>

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer

and ...

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss-blue

give me the same errors as the full code

the page it goes to which says "Connection timed out" Error 522

also says

jigsaw.w3.org
Host
Error

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 by: Dale - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 03:50 UTC

On 1/21/2023 8:29 PM, Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages ...

If I go to ...

https://www.w3.org/

the following links are options on the page

https://validator.w3.org/

http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

and check my CSS ...

https://www.dalekelly.org/mystyle.css

I get a similar error with the validate code on my page

at ...

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

the result goes through the error page

then I get the validate page

enter my CSS

https://www.dalekelly.org/mystyle.css

and get the same error page

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dalekelly.org%2Fmystyle.css&profile=css3svg&usermedium=all&warning=1&vextwarning=&lang=en

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 by: Dale - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 03:51 UTC

On 1/21/2023 8:58 PM, Y Lee Coyote wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 20:29:43 -0500, Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote in
> <tqi3i7$2qve2$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check the
>> front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on validator on
>> each page.
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>
>>
>> CSS validator icon doesn't show up on my page but when I click on its
>> empty space "Valid CSS!" text shows up and then it goes to a page saying
>> "Connection timed out" Error Code 522
>>
>> Same errors with Chrome/Edge as with Chrome
>>
>> HTML validator icon shows up on my page and works.
>>
>> Here are the codes ...
>>
>>
>> <a href="https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer"><img
>> src="https://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401" alt="Valid HTML 4.01
>> Strict" height="31" width="88"></a>
>>
>> <a href="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/check/referer"><img
>> style="border:0;width:88px;height:31px"
>> src="https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss-blue" alt="Valid
>> CSS!" ></a>
>>
>>
>> Also, how can I edit these so they go back to checking each separate
>> page and not just the front page?
>
>
> You are using the icons wrong. They are labels that you add to tell the
> user the page is valid. There is not any reason for a user to check your
> code.
>
> The links are INVALID. Try <<www.htmlvalidator.com>> (there a free
> version) to see your link errors.
>
> Y
> P&E
>

Thank You, but I prefer https://www.w3.org/
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 by: Jπ•’π•žπ•–π•€ π - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 04:34 UTC

In Message <tqi3i7$2qve2$1@dont-email.me>
On Saturday Jan 21, 2023 8:29 pm -05:00
Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

> Hi,

> I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check
> the front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on
> validator on each page.

> https://www.dalekelly.org/

> CSS validator icon doesn't show up on my page but when I click on its
> empty space "Valid CSS!" text shows up and then it goes to a page
> saying "Connection timed out" Error Code 522

> Same errors with Chrome/Edge as with Chrome

> HTML validator icon shows up on my page and works.

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 by: Arno Welzel - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:57 UTC

Dale, 2023-01-22 02:29:

> I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check the
> front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on validator on
> each page.
>
> https://www.dalekelly.org/

If you want to make sure, your website is valid, then just check it.
There is no need to put these logos on your site. Also if a page may not
be valid any longer because you did some changes and f

> CSS validator icon doesn't show up on my page but when I click on its
> empty space "Valid CSS!" text shows up and then it goes to a page saying
> "Connection timed out" Error Code 522

Seems the service is down - at least at the time when I checkd it:

<https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/jigsaw.w3.org?proto=https>

> Also, how can I edit these so they go back to checking each separate
> page and not just the front page?

You can't. Referrers are not sent to other domains any longer for
security reasons, so "tracking pixels" which record from which domain
the image was requested are no longer possible.

Therefore <https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer> will not work any
longer because it relies on the browser to send a referer which will not
happen.

If you want to have a logo for the current page you either need to add
the URL like this:

<https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dalekelly.org%2Fimages.html>

Or you need to use server side scripting like PHP to generate the URL
based on the current query like this:

<a
href="https://validator.w3.org/nu/?doc=<?php
echo urlencode($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);
?>"><img
src="https://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401"
alt="Valid HTML 4.01 Strict"
height="31"
width="88"></a>

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Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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 by: Arno Welzel - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 19:59 UTC

Arno Welzel, 2023-01-22 20:57:

> Dale, 2023-01-22 02:29:
>
>> I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check the
>> front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on validator on
>> each page.
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>
> If you want to make sure, your website is valid, then just check it.
> There is no need to put these logos on your site. Also if a page may not
> be valid any longer because you did some changes and f

(sent by accident...)

Here the whole part I forgot:

Also if a page may not be valid any longer because you did some changes
and forgot to check it again, it may be confusing to have a logo which
claims "valid HTML" eventhough the page is not valid. So you should
avoid using these logos in general and just do the checks for your own.

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

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 by: Dale - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:58 UTC

On 1/22/2023 2:59 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Arno Welzel, 2023-01-22 20:57:
>
>> Dale, 2023-01-22 02:29:
>>
>>> I have HTML and CSS validators on each of my pages. They only check the
>>> front page lately. But the error happens when clicking on validator on
>>> each page.
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>
>> If you want to make sure, your website is valid, then just check it.
>> There is no need to put these logos on your site. Also if a page may not
>> be valid any longer because you did some changes and f
>
> (sent by accident...)
>
> Here the whole part I forgot:
>
> Also if a page may not be valid any longer because you did some changes
> and forgot to check it again, it may be confusing to have a logo which
> claims "valid HTML" eventhough the page is not valid. So you should
> avoid using these logos in general and just do the checks for your own.
>
>

Thank You for your thorough responses!

I removed the validators from my 26 *.html pages.

Validated them on ...

https://www.w3.org/

.... before uploading.

https://www.dalekelly.org/weblog.html

and ...

https://www.dalekelly.org/degree.html

.... have some errors

my CSS has gone back to validating as before this whole thing happened

https://www.dalekelly.org/mystyle.css

Still having the same Chrome scroll bar issues that I don't have with Edge.

Thank You again!

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