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* Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainerOtto J. Makela
+* Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainerMarco Moock
|`* Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainerOtto J. Makela
| `* Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainerMarco Moock
|  `* Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainerStefan Ram
|   `- Re: Usenet revival (WAS: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainer)Spiros Bousbouras
`- Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainerAnton Shepelev

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Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainer

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:34 UTC

It is interesting how Usenet suddenly on the whole seems to be having a
bit of a renaissance. This is nice, as all alternatives that have turned
up over the years are centered around a single company or a website.
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Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainer

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From: mo0...@posteo.de (Marco Moock)
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Subject: Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainer
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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 15:08 UTC

Am 06.01.2023 um 16:34:06 Uhr schrieb Otto J. Makela:

> It is interesting how Usenet suddenly on the whole seems to be having
> a bit of a renaissance. This is nice, as all alternatives that have
> turned up over the years are centered around a single company or a
> website.

Why do you think it has a renaissance?
Especially the English part comp.* seems to be most abandoned.

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Subject: Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainer
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 by: Otto J. Makela - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 15:33 UTC

Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:

> Am 06.01.2023 um 16:34:06 Uhr schrieb Otto J. Makela:
>> It is interesting how Usenet suddenly on the whole seems to be having
>> a bit of a renaissance. This is nice, as all alternatives that have
>> turned up over the years are centered around a single company or a
>> website.
>
> Why do you think it has a renaissance?
> Especially the English part comp.* seems to be most abandoned.

There is actual discussion in news.groups, moderators are being
re-appointed, and the message I was following up to was the comp.lang.c
FAQ reporting in. Not very much, but still better than nothing.
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Re: greetings from a long-lost FAQ list maintainer

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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 16:29 UTC

Am 06.01.2023 um 17:33:34 Uhr schrieb Otto J. Makela:

> There is actual discussion in news.groups, moderators are being
> re-appointed, and the message I was following up to was the
> comp.lang.c FAQ reporting in. Not very much, but still better than
> nothing.

Ok. Are there any "project" in getting new users to the groups and
advertising them?

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 by: Stefan Ram - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 16:47 UTC

Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> writes:
>Ok. Are there any "project" in getting new users to the groups and
>advertising them?

I remember that, maybe 10 years ago, a group of people moved
from a Web forum to "comp.misc". I think some are still posting
there today.

Otherwise, I am not aware of any revival of the (text) Usenet.

For "de.all", IIRC, Cornell Binder has created a web site
with statistics. Something like "usenet.dex.de". I have the
impression that the use is still descreasing and I am afraid
there will be no revival.

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 by: Spiros Bousbouras - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 17:22 UTC

On 6 Jan 2023 16:47:59 GMT
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote:
> Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> writes:
> >Ok. Are there any "project" in getting new users to the groups and
> >advertising them?
>
> I remember that, maybe 10 years ago, a group of people moved
> from a Web forum to "comp.misc". I think some are still posting
> there today.

I am aware of 3 threads. Two are from February 2014 :

From: Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Welcome Slashdot refugees!
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 22:38:55 -0800
Message-ID: <ld1v1v$old$1@dont-email.me>

and

From: John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org>
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Slashdot Beta Sucks
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 10:45:47 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: Slashdot Beta Exodus
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Between them I have 142 message IDs. The first few are
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There is also
From: 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart>
Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: SUSE Reviving Usenet
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:04:16 -0500
Message-ID: <sj1rna$144n$1@gioia.aioe.org>

All the message IDs I have from this thread are
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> Otherwise, I am not aware of any revival of the (text) Usenet.
>
> For "de.all", IIRC, Cornell Binder has created a web site
> with statistics. Something like "usenet.dex.de". I have the
> impression that the use is still descreasing and I am afraid
> there will be no revival.

There may or may not be revival depending on all kinds of social factors and
random events.

--
vlaho.ninja/prog

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 by: Anton Shepelev - Sun, 15 Jan 2023 20:39 UTC

Otto J. Makela:

> It is interesting how Usenet suddenly on the whole seems
> to be having a bit of a renaissance. This is nice, as all
> alternatives that have turned up over the years are
> centered around a single company or a website.

With that site requiring a modern browser, OS, and computer,
and enforcing its own peculiar visual style often cluttered
with all sorts of noise.

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