Hello.

Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
+ with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
help. :(

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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In article <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> help. :(

probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.

In comp.mobile.ipad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > Hello.
> >
> > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> > + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> > help. :(

> probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.

OK. Well, it's day #3 so far. Lots of updated apps today. These aren't
updating: AccuWeather, eBay, Brave, WebSSH, IMDb, WebSSH, Yelp, and
maybe more soon. Even more interesting is with Yelp that is dated
1/11/2021 and yet its version history shows it was last updated
yesterday. :I Anyone else seeing it or just my side?

Thanks God I have a iPhone 12 mini to be able to keep updating and using
newer apps. :)
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In article <O8SdnV0i58sBV4f8nZ2dnUU7-S_NnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> > > + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> > > help. :(
>
> > probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> > itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
>
> OK. Well, it's day #3 so far. Lots of updated apps today. These aren't
> updating: AccuWeather, eBay, Brave, WebSSH, IMDb, WebSSH, Yelp, and
> maybe more soon. Even more interesting is with Yelp that is dated
> 1/11/2021 and yet its version history shows it was last updated
> yesterday. :I Anyone else seeing it or just my side?

your first problem is you have two copies of webssh :)

give it another day or two. the app store can be flaky.

On 8/16/2021 1:29 PM, Ant wrote:

<snip>

> OK. Well, it's day #3 so far. Lots of updated apps today. These aren't
> updating: AccuWeather, eBay, Brave, WebSSH, IMDb, WebSSH, Yelp, and
> maybe more soon. Even more interesting is with Yelp that is dated
> 1/11/2021 and yet its version history shows it was last updated
> yesterday. :I Anyone else seeing it or just my side?

You're likely running into apps that can't run on such an old version.

If you look at the Brave support side, 1.24 is the last version that
supports iOS 12, so if you're trying to update to 1.3 it may not work.
Probably similar issues with some of those other apps. But you'd think
that they wouldn't even try to update if they see that the iOS version
doesn't support the update.

> Thanks God I have a iPhone 12 mini to be able to keep updating and using
> newer apps. :)

If only you could use it for voice, SMS, and data!

In article <sfel4a$u75$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > OK. Well, it's day #3 so far. Lots of updated apps today. These aren't
> > updating: AccuWeather, eBay, Brave, WebSSH, IMDb, WebSSH, Yelp, and
> > maybe more soon. Even more interesting is with Yelp that is dated
> > 1/11/2021 and yet its version history shows it was last updated
> > yesterday. :I Anyone else seeing it or just my side?
>
> You're likely running into apps that can't run on such an old version.

nope. that's not why.

> If you look at the Brave support side, 1.24 is the last version that
> supports iOS 12, so if you're trying to update to 1.3 it may not work.

nope. that's not what it says at all.

what it says about 1.24 is this:
1.24 (21.4.1.15) kjozwiak released this Apr 13, 2021

We have also fixed some bugs and generally made the app
faster and better. Please note however that this release now
supports iOS12.4 and above.

> Probably similar issues with some of those other apps.

probably not.

> But you'd think
> that they wouldn't even try to update if they see that the iOS version
> doesn't support the update.

which is what normally happens.

sometimes it doesn't, and an alert such as the following appears:
<https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/24737-32664-ipadtip-top-xl.jpg>

he did not describe that situation, so that's not the problem.

> > Thanks God I have a iPhone 12 mini to be able to keep updating and using
> > newer apps. :)
>
> If only you could use it for voice, SMS, and data!

he could if he wasn't on verizon.

In misc.phone.mobile.iphone nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <O8SdnV0i58sBV4f8nZ2dnUU7-S_NnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > > > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> > > > + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> > > > help. :(
> >
> > > probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> > > itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
> >
> > OK. Well, it's day #3 so far. Lots of updated apps today. These aren't
> > updating: AccuWeather, eBay, Brave, WebSSH, IMDb, WebSSH, Yelp, and
> > maybe more soon. Even more interesting is with Yelp that is dated
> > 1/11/2021 and yet its version history shows it was last updated
> > yesterday. :I Anyone else seeing it or just my side?

> your first problem is you have two copies of webssh :)

Oops. Haha.

> give it another day or two. the app store can be flaky.

We'll see...
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In message <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone
> 6+ with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot
> didn't help. :(

What happens when you try to update?

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In misc.phone.mobile.iphone nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <sfel4a$u75$1@dont-email.me>, sms
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > > OK. Well, it's day #3 so far. Lots of updated apps today. These aren't
> > > updating: AccuWeather, eBay, Brave, WebSSH, IMDb, WebSSH, Yelp, and
> > > maybe more soon. Even more interesting is with Yelp that is dated
> > > 1/11/2021 and yet its version history shows it was last updated
> > > yesterday. :I Anyone else seeing it or just my side?
> >
> > You're likely running into apps that can't run on such an old version.

> nope. that's not why.

> > If you look at the Brave support side, 1.24 is the last version that
> > supports iOS 12, so if you're trying to update to 1.3 it may not work.

> nope. that's not what it says at all.

> what it says about 1.24 is this:
> 1.24 (21.4.1.15) kjozwiak released this Apr 13, 2021

> We have also fixed some bugs and generally made the app
> faster and better. Please note however that this release now
> supports iOS12.4 and above.

> > Probably similar issues with some of those other apps.

> probably not.

> > But you'd think
> > that they wouldn't even try to update if they see that the iOS version
> > doesn't support the update.

> which is what normally happens.

> sometimes it doesn't, and an alert such as the following appears:
> <https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/24737-32664-ipadtip-top-xl.jpg>

Or worse, not available anymore since it was removed from the store. :(

> he did not describe that situation, so that's not the problem.

> > > Thanks God I have a iPhone 12 mini to be able to keep updating and using
> > > newer apps. :)
> >
> > If only you could use it for voice, SMS, and data!

> he could if he wasn't on verizon.

Yep, but they do work if I get service and good connections like down the
hills and away from the rural areas into the busy cities.
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In article <cdudnTndiPCwcYf8nZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > But you'd think
> > > that they wouldn't even try to update if they see that the iOS version
> > > doesn't support the update.
>
> > which is what normally happens.
>
> > sometimes it doesn't, and an alert such as the following appears:
> > <https://photos5.appleinsider.com/gallery/24737-32664-ipadtip-top-xl.jpg>
>
> Or worse, not available anymore since it was removed from the store. :(

that's entirely up to the app developer, not apple.

many app developers keep older versions available, but not all.

if they don't, it's usually it's for a good reason, such as they made
changes on their servers and the older version is no longer compatible
and simply will not work, at all.

> > > > Thanks God I have a iPhone 12 mini to be able to keep updating and using
> > > > newer apps. :)
> > >
> > > If only you could use it for voice, SMS, and data!
>
> > he could if he wasn't on verizon.
>
> Yep, but they do work if I get service and good connections like down the
> hills and away from the rural areas into the busy cities.

go to an apple store and have them check the phone. it's possible you
have a defective unit, or something is configured wrong.

In message <160820211857320252%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <cdudnTndiPCwcYf8nZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Or worse, not available anymore since it was removed from the store. :(

> that's entirely up to the app developer, not apple.

> many app developers keep older versions available, but not all.

Many have abandoned iOS 12 as the number of changes in 13 and 14 have
made it much more difficult to keep two versions without, essentially,
having two entirely separate apps.

> go to an apple store and have them check the phone. it's possible you
> have a defective unit, or something is configured wrong.

Seems pretty obvious he's not going to do this.

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In article <slrnshltu3.rmr.g.kreme@m1mini.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> >> Or worse, not available anymore since it was removed from the store. :(
>
> > that's entirely up to the app developer, not apple.
>
> > many app developers keep older versions available, but not all.
>
> Many have abandoned iOS 12 as the number of changes in 13 and 14 have
> made it much more difficult to keep two versions without, essentially,
> having two entirely separate apps.

true, but sometimes the old version is still available.

brave *does* keep older versions.

> > go to an apple store and have them check the phone. it's possible you
> > have a defective unit, or something is configured wrong.
>
> Seems pretty obvious he's not going to do this.

yep.

In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone
> > 6+ with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot
> > didn't help. :(

> What happens when you try to update?

It downloads, installs, and then still shows there's an update. On home
screen, it shows that dot saying the app was updated.

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In article <EN-dnUOL97APmYb8nZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone
> > > 6+ with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot
> > > didn't help. :(
>
> > What happens when you try to update?
>
> It downloads, installs, and then still shows there's an update. On home
> screen, it shows that dot saying the app was updated.

that's an app store glitch which has been there forever. it will
ultimately resolve itself.

Now, 11 apps. Some problematic apps (Twitter and WebSSH) updates now ask
me to download their older versions because they want newer iOS versions
(e.g., v14.1 and v13.4). So, I do that and then it repeats. Others are
downloading and then repeating offered updated apps. :(

In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> Hello.

> Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> help. :(

> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

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In article <K4idnY1f_JJ7XoH8nZ2dnUU7-IfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> Now, 11 apps. Some problematic apps (Twitter and WebSSH) updates now ask
> me to download their older versions because they want newer iOS versions
> (e.g., v14.1 and v13.4). So, I do that and then it repeats. Others are
> downloading and then repeating offered updated apps. :(

app store glitch.

stop worrying about it. it will eventually resolve itself.

In comp.mobile.ipad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <K4idnY1f_JJ7XoH8nZ2dnUU7-IfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > Now, 11 apps. Some problematic apps (Twitter and WebSSH) updates now ask
> > me to download their older versions because they want newer iOS versions
> > (e.g., v14.1 and v13.4). So, I do that and then it repeats. Others are
> > downloading and then repeating offered updated apps. :(

> app store glitch.

> stop worrying about it. it will eventually resolve itself.

It better be soon. Others are noticing them too like in https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/p6qqtx/iphone_6_plus_apps_no_longer_updating/.
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In article <jO-dnUEnL9al64D8nZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

>
> > > Now, 11 apps. Some problematic apps (Twitter and WebSSH) updates now ask
> > > me to download their older versions because they want newer iOS versions
> > > (e.g., v14.1 and v13.4). So, I do that and then it repeats. Others are
> > > downloading and then repeating offered updated apps. :(
>
> > app store glitch.
>
> > stop worrying about it. it will eventually resolve itself.
>
> It better be soon. Others are noticing them too like in
> https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/p6qqtx/iphone_6_plus_apps_no_longer_updating/.

it's been an issue since the app store began.

the problem is that things get out of sync. eventually it will update
correctly.

stop worrying about it.

In comp.mobile.ipad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > Hello.
> >
> > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> > + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> > help. :(

> probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.

It still happens today. :(
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On 9/6/2021 4:53 PM, Ant wrote:
> In comp.mobile.ipad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
>> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
>>> AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
>>> + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
>>> help. :(
>
>> probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
>> itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
>
> It still happens today. :(

The problem is that often an app will claim that it's compatible with
older versions of iOS when in reality it is not. I doubt if any Apple
App Store employee actually checks every App on the App store to ensure
that it works on all the iOS versions that it claims to work on.

I think that it's time to recycle that iPhone 6 Plus. You've gotten the
expected use out of it. Move on.

In article <sh6a84$vs$1@dont-email.me>, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

> >>> Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> >>> AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> >>> + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> >>> help. :(
> >
> >> probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> >> itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
> >
> > It still happens today. :(
>
> The problem is that often an app will claim that it's compatible with
> older versions of iOS when in reality it is not.

no, that is not the problem he is describing.

stop pretending to know about app development.

> I doubt if any Apple
> App Store employee actually checks every App on the App store to ensure
> that it works on all the iOS versions that it claims to work on.

most of the validation is automated. employees verify functionality.

again, stop pretending to know about app development.

> I think that it's time to recycle that iPhone 6 Plus. You've gotten the
> expected use out of it. Move on.

but, but, it has an analog headphone jack. what happened to that
mindless rant?

In article <UqOdndCLz9yIN6v8nZ2dnUU7-TednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> > > + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> > > help. :(
>
> > probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> > itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
>
> It still happens today. :(

that's odd. usually it resolves fairly quickly.

i saw a few apps with issues but they've long since updated.

which apps are they? what versions?

In comp.mobile.ipad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <UqOdndCLz9yIN6v8nZ2dnUU7-TednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > > Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
> > > > AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
> > > > + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
> > > > help. :(
> >
> > > probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
> > > itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
> >
> > It still happens today. :(

> that's odd. usually it resolves fairly quickly.

> i saw a few apps with issues but they've long since updated.

> which apps are they? what versions?

Same ones as mentioned in my original post with new ones:
Shazam
Imgur
Infuse 7
LinkedIn
Redbox
Terminus
Twitter
eBay
Brave

Currently 12 apps with updates. Recent YouTube, Signal, etc. updated fine.
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In article <G4idneVf4YzJKKv8nZ2dnUU7-S-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

>
> > which apps are they? what versions?
>
> Same ones as mentioned in my original post with new ones:
> Shazam
> Imgur
> Infuse 7
> LinkedIn
> Redbox
> Terminus
> Twitter
> eBay
> Brave
>
> Currently 12 apps with updates. Recent YouTube, Signal, etc. updated fine.

compare the versions you have with the latest versions of the apps.

i did have an issue with ebay, but it resolved itself a week or so ago
(don't remember when), and again earlier today.

In message <sh6a84$vs$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2021 4:53 PM, Ant wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.ipad nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <dtidnalx_txUJIf8nZ2dnUU7-SPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
>>> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else having problems updating some iOS apps (e.g., IMDb and
>>>> AccuWeather) since this weekend? Seen in both old iPad air and iPhone 6
>>>> + with iOS v12.5.4. Two different Apple ID accounts too. Reboot didn't
>>>> help. :(
>>
>>> probably just an app store glitch. it happens. if it doesn't resolve
>>> itself in a day or two, then further digging is needed.
>>
>> It still happens today. :(

> The problem is that often an app will claim that it's compatible with
> older versions of iOS when in reality it is not.

This is, of course, utter bullshit.

Version compatibility is set by the Xcode compilation process and
involves a checkbox. Xcode will not compile an app that has the "iOS 12"
checkbox if it will not run on iOS 12.

As is always the case, you have no idea what you are talking about and
are spewing ignorant nonsense.

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When the routine bites hard / and ambitions are low And the
resentment rides high / but emotions won't grow And we're
changing our ways, / taking different roads Then love, love will
tear us apart again