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computers / alt.sys.pdp10 / Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip API

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* TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIPoBe
+* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIgah4
|+* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIDan Cross
||+- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APILars Brinkhoff
||+* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIAlan Frisbie
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||||   `* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIRich Alderson
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||||     `- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIRich Alderson
|||`- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIDan Cross
||`* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIgah4
|| `* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIDan Cross
||  `* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIgah4
||   `* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIDan Cross
||    `* Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIgah4
||     +- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIDan Cross
||     `- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIPoBe
|`- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIDouglas Wells
+- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APILars Brinkhoff
+- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APILars Brinkhoff
+- Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip APIPoBe
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Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip API

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From: new...@alderson.users.panix.com (Rich Alderson)
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Subject: Re: TOPS20 Tcp/Ip API
Date: 02 Sep 2021 21:07:46 -0400
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 by: Rich Alderson - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 01:07 UTC

fishtoprecords <pat22043@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 4:59:37 PM UTC-4, Rich Alderson wrote:

>> MM came first, initially written by (IIRC) McMahon, later taken over by our
>> late friend Mark Crispin and expanded greatly to allow TCP/IP, DECnet, and
>> dialup e-mail interchange as well as local delivery; I believe that the
>> TCP/IP code replaced the NCP/FTP code of earlier versions.

>> MS was a DEC fork of an early version of MM (I've seen the source, it's
>> acknowledged right there) which standardized on DECnet and local delivery,
>> and did not keep any of the ARPANET stuff; the phone-net stuff was much
>> later anyway.

> We started with DEC's MS and quickly picked up MM. We put in a moderate
> number of local hacks specific to our hacked TOPS-20. We also added "receipt"
> for delivery (meaning that the addressee read the message)

> I remember the address parser that Mark put in. Even supported dial-up UUCP
> I think Mark had a lot of input into RFC822 for proper 10/20 address forms.

It actually wasn't uucp; it was a similar facility which MRC created himself
and called "Cafard" (French for "bug" or "cockroach"; used in soldier's patois
to describe someone who's gone round the bend). I don't know that he saw the
work I had done to add MMDF capability to MM for the University of Chicago, the
project which first acquainted us with each other and led to my move to Stanford.
I think he had a lot of input into both RFC822 and RFC821.

--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen

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