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* sddm login managerGilberto F da Silva
`* Re: sddm login managerDavid W. Hodgins
 +- Re: sddm login managerGilberto F da Silva
 `* Re: sddm login managerGilberto F da Silva
  `* Re: sddm login managerfaeychild
   `* Re: sddm login managerAragorn
    `* Re: sddm login managerfaeychild
     `* Re: sddm login managerAragorn
      `* Re: sddm login managerDoug Laidlaw
       `* Re: sddm login managerAragorn
        `* Re: sddm login managerDoug Laidlaw
         +- Re: sddm login managerWilliam Unruh
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From: gfs1...@gmx.net (Gilberto F da Silva)
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Subject: sddm login manager
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 17:41:55 -0200
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 by: Gilberto F da Silva - Sun, 9 Jan 2022 19:41 UTC

Today I am trying to put my installation of Mageia 8 in production. That
is, to use it as my distribution to my daily tasks.

In another distribution I use Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return to GUI but in the
Mageia I return by Ctrl-Alt-F1. I would like it to be Ctrl-ALT-F7 for
already accustomed to this combination.

I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:

Minimumvt = 7

But there was no effect.

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From: dwhodg...@nomail.afraid.org (David W. Hodgins)
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 by: David W. Hodgins - Sun, 9 Jan 2022 20:13 UTC

On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
> I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
> Minimumvt = 7
> But there was no effect.

Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be
MinimumVT=

Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: gfs1...@gmx.net (Gilberto F da Silva)
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Subject: Re: sddm login manager
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 by: Gilberto F da Silva - Sun, 9 Jan 2022 21:44 UTC

David W. Hodgins escreveu:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
> <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
>> I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
>> Minimumvt = 7
>> But there was no effect.
>
> Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be
> MinimumVT=
>
> Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

Thanks for answering.

If the line is left without a number, the value 1 will be assigned
automatically.

A copy and past from /etc/sddm.conf:
....
MinimumVT=7
# Minimum virtual terminal number that will be used by the first
display. Virtual terminal number will increase as new displays added.
#Default value is 1.
....

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From: gfs1...@gmx.net (Gilberto F da Silva)
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Subject: Re: sddm login manager
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 by: Gilberto F da Silva - Sun, 9 Jan 2022 23:10 UTC

David W. Hodgins escreveu:
> On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
> <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
>> I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
>> Minimumvt = 7
>> But there was no effect.
>
> Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be
> MinimumVT=
>
> Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.

I missed typing here but in the configuration file it is correct. I just
put the "7".

--

Giilberto F da Silva

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From: faeych...@nomail.afraid.org (faeychild)
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Subject: Re: sddm login manager
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 by: faeychild - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 20:24 UTC

On 10/1/22 10:10, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
> David W. Hodgins escreveu:
>> On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
>> <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
>>> Minimumvt = 7
>>> But there was no effect.
>>
>> Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it should be
>> MinimumVT=
>>
>> Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.
>
> I missed typing here but in the configuration file it is correct. I just
> put the "7".
>
>

Interesting, Gilberto.

I had wondered about that GUI terminal change but never investigated it

I have also wondered about starting a GUI in each terminal running a
different desktop.
Completely pointless, of course, but it can be done

Regards

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.11-desktop-3.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

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 by: Aragorn - Mon, 10 Jan 2022 21:07 UTC

On 11.01.2022 at 07:24, faeychild scribbled:

> On 10/1/22 10:10, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
> > David W. Hodgins escreveu:
> >> On Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:41:55 -0500, Gilberto F da Silva
> >> <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>> I edited the /etc/sddm.conf file and changed a line to:
> >>> Minimumvt = 7
> >>> But there was no effect.
> >>
> >> Haven't tried it myself, but according to "man sddm.conf" it
> >> should be MinimumVT> >>
> >> Note the uppercase VT. Most things in linux are case sensitive.
> >
> > I missed typing here but in the configuration file it is correct. I
> > just put the "7".
>
> Interesting, Gilberto.
>
> I had wondered about that GUI terminal change but never investigated
> it

If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with Plasma as
the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at tty1.

This is however not the case for the XFCE desktop. In Arch and its
various derivatives, XFCE (with lightdm as the display manager) runs at
tty7, and I believe GNOME with GDM runs at tty4.

In non-systemd-based distributions, SDDM commonly still runs at tty7,
as it used to be.

systemd-udev also initializes the other virtual ttys on demand only,
i.e. they are only created when you switch to them — with the exception
of tty12 if you have journald set up to mirror its log to tty12 (which
is not the default setting).

--
With respect,
= Aragorn

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 by: faeychild - Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:07 UTC

On 11/1/22 08:07, Aragorn wrote:

>
> If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
> systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with Plasma as
> the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at tty1.

You have got to love standards, Aragorn
we have so many

We are greatly reassured that there are only two possible sides of the
road to drive on

--
faeychild
Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.11-desktop-3.mga8 kernel.
Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso

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 by: Aragorn - Thu, 13 Jan 2022 01:14 UTC

On 13.01.2022 at 08:07, faeychild scribbled:

> On 11/1/22 08:07, Aragorn wrote:
>
> > If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
> > systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with
> > Plasma as the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at
> > tty1.
>
> You have got to love standards, Aragorn
> we have so many

;)

> We are greatly reassured that there are only two possible sides of
> the road to drive on
And yet all the time, people appear to be buying vehicles intended for
off-road use, and then never taking them off-road. :p

--
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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 by: Doug Laidlaw - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 14:33 UTC

On 13/1/22 12:14, Aragorn wrote:
> On 13.01.2022 at 08:07, faeychild scribbled:
>
>> On 11/1/22 08:07, Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>> If I recall correctly, then this came en vogue with the adoption of
>>> systemd as PID 1. Most other systemd-based distributions with
>>> Plasma as the desktop also have SDDM and Plasma itself running at
>>> tty1.
>>
>> You have got to love standards, Aragorn
>> we have so many
>
> ;)
>
>> We are greatly reassured that there are only two possible sides of
>> the road to drive on
>
> And yet all the time, people appear to be buying vehicles intended for
> off-road use, and then never taking them off-road. :p
>
I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name of
the last distro I booted into. Like another user, I reverted to Lightdm.

Interestingly, I looked up a comparison of login managers. Their first
comment about sddm is that it is inclined to be buggy.

https://www.slant.co/topics/2053/~best-linux-display-manager

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 by: Aragorn - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:02 UTC

On 17.01.2022 at 01:33, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:

> I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name
> of the last distro I booted into.

I'm afraid you've got a number of things mixed up. SDDM is a display
and login manager. It doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with what
distribution you're logged into.

You're probably thinking of the GRUB screen.

> Like another user, I reverted to Lightdm.
>
> Interestingly, I looked up a comparison of login managers. Their
> first comment about sddm is that it is inclined to be buggy.
>
> https://www.slant.co/topics/2053/~best-linux-display-manager

Over at the Manjaro forum, lightdm is the one we're seeing the most
problems with, and especially so the people with Nvidia hardware.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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From: laidl...@hotkey.net.au (Doug Laidlaw)
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Subject: Re: sddm login manager
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 by: Doug Laidlaw - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:56 UTC

On 17/1/22 08:02, Aragorn wrote:
> On 17.01.2022 at 01:33, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:
>
>> I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name
>> of the last distro I booted into.
>
> I'm afraid you've got a number of things mixed up. SDDM is a display
> and login manager. It doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with what
> distribution you're logged into.
>
No, the only place where I use sddm is in Mageia 8. Once again,
correlation does not prove cause and effect.

sddm should retain the setting for the last DE that I used, but it
refused to. To me, that sounds like a problem with sddm. I mentioned
that I had a problem as well with Virtualbox being unable to load its
kernel driver. A new kernel that has just come down fixed that; maybe
it has fixed sddm as well. I am about to find out.

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From: unr...@invalid.ca (William Unruh)
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 by: William Unruh - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:11 UTC

On 2022-01-19, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
> On 17/1/22 08:02, Aragorn wrote:
>> On 17.01.2022 at 01:33, Doug Laidlaw scribbled:
>>
>>> I am having problems with sddm as well. It does not retain the name
>>> of the last distro I booted into.
>>
>> I'm afraid you've got a number of things mixed up. SDDM is a display
>> and login manager. It doesn't have anything to do whatsoever with what
>> distribution you're logged into.
>>
> No, the only place where I use sddm is in Mageia 8. Once again,
> correlation does not prove cause and effect.

As far as I know, sddm is the default dm for KDE-Plasma. That is
distro-agnositc. That you happen to be using it on YOUR Mageia install
and not on your other installs has nothing to do with Mageia or with
sddm.
>
> sddm should retain the setting for the last DE that I used, but it
> refused to. To me, that sounds like a problem with sddm. I mentioned
I do not have that problem on Mageia 8, so that suggests that the
problem is with your installation, not with Mageia 8 or sddm.

> that I had a problem as well with Virtualbox being unable to load its
> kernel driver. A new kernel that has just come down fixed that; maybe
> it has fixed sddm as well. I am about to find out.

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From: TJ...@noneofyour.business (TJ)
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 by: TJ - Wed, 19 Jan 2022 22:29 UTC

On 1/19/22 07:56, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
>
> sddm should retain the setting for the last DE that I used, but it
> refused to.  To me, that sounds like a problem with sddm.  I mentioned
> that I had a problem as well with Virtualbox being unable to load its
> kernel driver.  A new kernel that has just come down fixed that; maybe
> it has fixed sddm as well.  I am about to find out.

That was fixed back in March. See
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28378.

The problem was with the /etc/sddm.conf file. It was fixed with that
update, but it involved changing a user conf file, so because of Mageia
policy, when the user got the update he was given the option of using
the new configuration, or retaining the old one.

It sounds like you chose the "do nothing" option when given that choice.
But, you can fix it yourself. As root, load /etc/sddm.conf into your
favorite text editor. Look for a line that says
"RememberLastSession=false" and change the "false" to "true" and save
the file.

That should take care of it for you.

TJ

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