Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?
I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
but how can someone post from nano? I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters
(which can be done with -r) but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in
between the response and the header.

nano -r 72 -S +10

Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?

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On 2021-05-21, ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:

> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to
> newsgroups?

Unfortunately I have always used vim with slrn under Linux and gvim
with slrn under Windows...

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In message <slrnsaedfv.aqo.ffuentes@iceland.freeshell.org> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?

The editor has nothing to do with posting tp newsgroups. YOu can use any
editor you want. I am sure plenty of people use nano, just as plenty use
vim, vim, emacs, gvim, and even BBEdit.

> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
> but how can someone post from nano?

set your editor to nano in your .slrnrc.

> I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters (which can be done with -r)
> but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
> the header.

> nano -r 72 -S +10

> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?

Seems like that should work based on the man page (I don't use nano).

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On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <slrnsaedfv.aqo.ffuentes@iceland.freeshell.org> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?
>
> The editor has nothing to do with posting tp newsgroups. YOu can use any
> editor you want. I am sure plenty of people use nano, just as plenty use
> vim, vim, emacs, gvim, and even BBEdit.
>
>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
>> but how can someone post from nano?
>
> set your editor to nano in your .slrnrc.
>
>> I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters (which can be done with -r)
>> but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
>> the header.
>
>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>
>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>
> Seems like that should work based on the man page (I don't use nano).

I don't either — I use the jstar "flavor" of joe (Joe's Own Editor).

Somehow I figured out the following line (which works for me).

set editor_command "jstar +%d '%s'"

At this point I don't know what "+%d" and "'%s'" do — I would have to look
it up again. I don't have to worry about the 72 character line, as jstar
just brings in its own settings from its own .jstarc configuration file. I
don't know right now where the cursor goes when I do a follow up — I'll have
to check that out and report back. Wherever it ends up I'm used to what it
does.

Sorry I can't be any more help. I've tried nano but could never get "into
it."

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On 2021-05-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <slrnsaedfv.aqo.ffuentes@iceland.freeshell.org> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?
>>
>> The editor has nothing to do with posting tp newsgroups. YOu can use any
>> editor you want. I am sure plenty of people use nano, just as plenty use
>> vim, vim, emacs, gvim, and even BBEdit.
>>
>>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
>>> but how can someone post from nano?
>>
>> set your editor to nano in your .slrnrc.
>>
>>> I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters (which can be done with -r)
>>> but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
>>> the header.
>>
>>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>
>>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>>
>> Seems like that should work based on the man page (I don't use nano).
>
> I don't either — I use the jstar "flavor" of joe (Joe's Own Editor).
>
> Somehow I figured out the following line (which works for me).
>
> set editor_command "jstar +%d '%s'"
>
> At this point I don't know what "+%d" and "'%s'" do — I would have to look
> it up again. I don't have to worry about the 72 character line, as jstar
> just brings in its own settings from its own .jstarc configuration file. I
> don't know right now where the cursor goes when I do a follow up — I'll have
> to check that out and report back. Wherever it ends up I'm used to what it
> does.
>
> Sorry I can't be any more help. I've tried nano but could never get "into
> it."

Just checked, my cursor does stay between the response and he header. So I
guess that's built into jstar (somehow).

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In message <s88h9b$upr$2@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-05-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>> In message <slrnsaedfv.aqo.ffuentes@iceland.freeshell.org> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>>>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?
>>>
>>> The editor has nothing to do with posting tp newsgroups. YOu can use any
>>> editor you want. I am sure plenty of people use nano, just as plenty use
>>> vim, vim, emacs, gvim, and even BBEdit.
>>>
>>>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
>>>> but how can someone post from nano?
>>>
>>> set your editor to nano in your .slrnrc.
>>>
>>>> I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters (which can be done with -r)
>>>> but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
>>>> the header.
>>>
>>>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>>
>>>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>>>
>>> Seems like that should work based on the man page (I don't use nano).
>>
>> I don't either — I use the jstar "flavor" of joe (Joe's Own Editor).
>>
>> Somehow I figured out the following line (which works for me).
>>
>> set editor_command "jstar +%d '%s'"
>>
>> At this point I don't know what "+%d" and "'%s'" do — I would have to look
>> it up again. I don't have to worry about the 72 character line, as jstar
>> just brings in its own settings from its own .jstarc configuration file. I
>> don't know right now where the cursor goes when I do a follow up — I'll have
>> to check that out and report back. Wherever it ends up I'm used to what it
>> does.
>>
>> Sorry I can't be any more help. I've tried nano but could never get "into
>> it."

> Just checked, my cursor does stay between the response and he header. So I
> guess that's built into jstar (somehow).

It is probably the +%d, but I do not have joe installed on any machine
and I can’t be arsed looking up a man page online.

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On Fri, 21 May 2021 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC),
ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to
> newsgroups?

> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post but
> how can someone post from nano? I wanna make nano wrap at 72
> characters (which can be done with -r) but I also wanna make
> the cursor to stay in between the response and the header.
>
> nano -r 72 -S +10
>
> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?

I use pico, which I think is related to nano. Here's what I have
in my .slrnrc, perhaps it will help?

set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"

The "-r66" part is the line length before wrapping. Many of the
newsgroups I frequent have extended back and forth discussions, so
after a few exchanges 72 starts to look pretty bad.

I also love pico's rewrap feature (Ctrl-j) that even rewraps
quoted text properly (used it above).

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On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <s88h9b$upr$2@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-05-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>> In message <slrnsaedfv.aqo.ffuentes@iceland.freeshell.org> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>>>>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?
>>>>
>>>> The editor has nothing to do with posting tp newsgroups. YOu can use any
>>>> editor you want. I am sure plenty of people use nano, just as plenty use
>>>> vim, vim, emacs, gvim, and even BBEdit.
>>>>
>>>>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
>>>>> but how can someone post from nano?
>>>>
>>>> set your editor to nano in your .slrnrc.
>>>>
>>>>> I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters (which can be done with -r)
>>>>> but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
>>>>> the header.
>>>>
>>>>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>>>
>>>>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>>>>
>>>> Seems like that should work based on the man page (I don't use nano).
>>>
>>> I don't either — I use the jstar "flavor" of joe (Joe's Own Editor).
>>>
>>> Somehow I figured out the following line (which works for me).
>>>
>>> set editor_command "jstar +%d '%s'"
>>>
>>> At this point I don't know what "+%d" and "'%s'" do — I would have to look
>>> it up again. I don't have to worry about the 72 character line, as jstar
>>> just brings in its own settings from its own .jstarc configuration file. I
>>> don't know right now where the cursor goes when I do a follow up — I'll have
>>> to check that out and report back. Wherever it ends up I'm used to what it
>>> does.
>>>
>>> Sorry I can't be any more help. I've tried nano but could never get "into
>>> it."
>
>> Just checked, my cursor does stay between the response and he header. So I
>> guess that's built into jstar (somehow).
>
> It is probably the +%d, but I do not have joe installed on any machine
> and I can’t be arsed looking up a man page online.

You were right — "%d — number of the first line of the message body"
(Don't know what the plus sign does.)

%s is for the file name.

So could the original poster also use the +%d (or just %d) for nano?

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On 2021-05-21, Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 2021 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC),
> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to
>> newsgroups?
>
>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post but
>> how can someone post from nano? I wanna make nano wrap at 72
>> characters (which can be done with -r) but I also wanna make
>> the cursor to stay in between the response and the header.
>>
>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>
>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>
> I use pico, which I think is related to nano. Here's what I have
> in my .slrnrc, perhaps it will help?
>
> set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"
>
> The "-r66" part is the line length before wrapping. Many of the
> newsgroups I frequent have extended back and forth discussions, so
> after a few exchanges 72 starts to look pretty bad.
>
> I also love pico's rewrap feature (Ctrl-j) that even rewraps
> quoted text properly (used it above).

I use that feature (Ctrl-b) all the time in jstar as well (it appears to
work the same). I might look at setting up a jstar configuration just for
slrn — you make a good point about using 66 columns instead of a higher
number.

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Yemenis attack Saudi oil facilities: TERRORISM!

In message <s89fma$sh1$1@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <s88h9b$upr$2@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-05-21, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>> In message <slrnsaedfv.aqo.ffuentes@iceland.freeshell.org> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to newsgroups?
>>>>>
>>>>> The editor has nothing to do with posting tp newsgroups. YOu can use any
>>>>> editor you want. I am sure plenty of people use nano, just as plenty use
>>>>> vim, vim, emacs, gvim, and even BBEdit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
>>>>>> but how can someone post from nano?
>>>>>
>>>>> set your editor to nano in your .slrnrc.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanna make nano wrap at 72 characters (which can be done with -r)
>>>>>> but I also wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
>>>>>> the header.
>>>>>
>>>>>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like that should work based on the man page (I don't use nano).
>>>>
>>>> I don't either — I use the jstar "flavor" of joe (Joe's Own Editor).
>>>>
>>>> Somehow I figured out the following line (which works for me).
>>>>
>>>> set editor_command "jstar +%d '%s'"
>>>>
>>>> At this point I don't know what "+%d" and "'%s'" do — I would have to look
>>>> it up again. I don't have to worry about the 72 character line, as jstar
>>>> just brings in its own settings from its own .jstarc configuration file. I
>>>> don't know right now where the cursor goes when I do a follow up — I'll have
>>>> to check that out and report back. Wherever it ends up I'm used to what it
>>>> does.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I can't be any more help. I've tried nano but could never get "into
>>>> it."
>>
>>> Just checked, my cursor does stay between the response and he header. So I
>>> guess that's built into jstar (somehow).
>>
>> It is probably the +%d, but I do not have joe installed on any machine
>> and I can’t be arsed looking up a man page online.

> You were right — "%d — number of the first line of the message body"
> (Don't know what the plus sign does.)

> %s is for the file name.

> So could the original poster also use the +%d (or just %d) for nano?

Probably? It would need the + however, since nano wants +<num> for a
line number to start on.

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In message <s89g5p$1h9$1@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-05-21, Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 May 2021 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC),
>> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to
>>> newsgroups?
>>
>>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post but
>>> how can someone post from nano? I wanna make nano wrap at 72
>>> characters (which can be done with -r) but I also wanna make
>>> the cursor to stay in between the response and the header.
>>>
>>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>>
>>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>>
>> I use pico, which I think is related to nano. Here's what I have
>> in my .slrnrc, perhaps it will help?
>>
>> set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"
>>
>> The "-r66" part is the line length before wrapping. Many of the
>> newsgroups I frequent have extended back and forth discussions, so
>> after a few exchanges 72 starts to look pretty bad.
>>
>> I also love pico's rewrap feature (Ctrl-j) that even rewraps
>> quoted text properly (used it above).

> I use that feature (Ctrl-b) all the time in jstar as well (it appears
> to work the same). I might look at setting up a jstar configuration
> just for slrn — you make a good point about using 66 columns instead
> of a higher number.

And gq in vim.

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On 2021-05-22, Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <s89g5p$1h9$1@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2021-05-21, Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 May 2021 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC),
>>> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:
>>>> Here I have a silly question. Do any of you use nano to post to
>>>> newsgroups?
>>>
>>>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post but
>>>> how can someone post from nano? I wanna make nano wrap at 72
>>>> characters (which can be done with -r) but I also wanna make
>>>> the cursor to stay in between the response and the header.
>>>>
>>>> nano -r 72 -S +10
>>>>
>>>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
>>>
>>> I use pico, which I think is related to nano. Here's what I have
>>> in my .slrnrc, perhaps it will help?
>>>
>>> set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"
>>>
>>> The "-r66" part is the line length before wrapping. Many of the
>>> newsgroups I frequent have extended back and forth discussions, so
>>> after a few exchanges 72 starts to look pretty bad.
>>>
>>> I also love pico's rewrap feature (Ctrl-j) that even rewraps
>>> quoted text properly (used it above).
>
>> I use that feature (Ctrl-b) all the time in jstar as well (it appears
>> to work the same). I might look at setting up a jstar configuration
>> just for slrn — you make a good point about using 66 columns instead
>> of a higher number.
>
> And gq in vim.

If I hadn't used WordStar in DOS for so long I probably would be using some
other editor in Linux. But jstar was like "coming home" for me. That's the
great thing about Linux, lots of choices.

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On Sat, 22 May 2021 03:11:40 -0000 (UTC),
Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <s89g5p$1h9$1@dont-email.me> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2021-05-21, Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 May 2021 04:24:33 -0000 (UTC),
> >> ffuentes <ffuentes@sdf-f.spam.org> wrote:

> >>> I know slrn has a good example of how to setup vim to post
> >>> but how can someone post from nano? I wanna make nano wrap
> >>> at 72 characters (which can be done with -r) but I also
> >>> wanna make the cursor to stay in between the response and
> >>> the header.
> >>>
> >>> nano -r 72 -S +10
> >>>
> >>> Is this right? Do any of you have a better idea?
> >>
> >> I use pico, which I think is related to nano. Here's what I
> >> have in my .slrnrc, perhaps it will help?
> >>
> >> set editor_command "pico -z -t -r66 -Q \"> \" %s"

> >> I also love pico's rewrap feature (Ctrl-j) that even rewraps
> >> quoted text properly (used it above).
>
> > I use that feature (Ctrl-b) all the time in jstar as well (it
> > appears to work the same). I might look at setting up a jstar
> > configuration just for slrn ??? you make a good point about
> > using 66 columns instead of a higher number.
>
> And gq in vim.

I *knew* it. :)

See header in my first post...

> ObICanSeeItComing: some folks will be sure to say vim does it too

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