Wife's Galaxy 8 battery is dying and I'd like to replace it. I checked
Amazon and was astonished to see that a new battery AND a tool kit to
use was less than half of what batteries used to cost. Are these
things legit?

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
> Wife's Galaxy 8 battery is dying and I'd like to replace it. I checked
> Amazon and was astonished to see that a new battery AND a tool kit to
> use was less than half of what batteries used to cost. Are these
> things legit?

Yes and no. They're batteries, and they may work... for a while. But
Samsung doesn't make batteries for more than a couple of years after the
phone was released, so after a while all the 'genuine Samsung' stock on the
market is fake (or genuine but ancient which you don't want anyway). They
often lie about their capacity too: as a rule of thumb you won't get much
more than the original battery capacity in the limited space available, so
if somebody is advertising double they're a liar.

I would go with a non-Samsung battery, especially if you can find one from a
brand you have heard of, and run away from anything that claims to be
significantly higher capacity.

If you're buying from Amazon, only look at the negative reviews as there's
lots of fake reviews going on. In particular people who write reviews on
opening the box and haven't tested the battery for the long term.

Theo

On 04 Sep 2023 18:22:11 +0100 (BST), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>> Wife's Galaxy 8 battery is dying and I'd like to replace it. I checked
>> Amazon and was astonished to see that a new battery AND a tool kit to
>> use was less than half of what batteries used to cost. Are these
>> things legit?
>
>Yes and no. They're batteries, and they may work... for a while. But
>Samsung doesn't make batteries for more than a couple of years after the
>phone was released, so after a while all the 'genuine Samsung' stock on the
>market is fake (or genuine but ancient which you don't want anyway). They
>often lie about their capacity too: as a rule of thumb you won't get much
>more than the original battery capacity in the limited space available, so
>if somebody is advertising double they're a liar.
>
>I would go with a non-Samsung battery, especially if you can find one from a
>brand you have heard of, and run away from anything that claims to be
>significantly higher capacity.
>
>If you're buying from Amazon, only look at the negative reviews as there's
>lots of fake reviews going on. In particular people who write reviews on
>opening the box and haven't tested the battery for the long term.
>
>Theo

Thanks, Theo. Good Info!

>>>>>>>>>>jetjock<<<<<<<<<<

On 9/4/23 10:22 AM, Theo wrote:
> jetjock <jetjock@unkown.com> wrote:
>> Wife's Galaxy 8 battery is dying and I'd like to replace it. I checked
>> Amazon and was astonished to see that a new battery AND a tool kit to
>> use was less than half of what batteries used to cost. Are these
>> things legit?
>
> Yes and no. They're batteries, and they may work... for a while. But
> Samsung doesn't make batteries for more than a couple of years after the
> phone was released, so after a while all the 'genuine Samsung' stock on the
> market is fake (or genuine but ancient which you don't want anyway). They
> often lie about their capacity too: as a rule of thumb you won't get much
> more than the original battery capacity in the limited space available, so
> if somebody is advertising double they're a liar.
>
> I would go with a non-Samsung battery, especially if you can find one from a
> brand you have heard of, and run away from anything that claims to be
> significantly higher capacity.

There were lots of no-name batteries for my Pixel2 for $15-$20. I
decided that I would screw up the installation so I paid a local guy $60
[including the battery, which he ordered; no idea what brand; I didn't
tell my hip surgeon which spike to use either :-) ]. The original
unused phone was 3 years old when I bought it and I used it for 3 years
before the auto-restart feature got really annoying. So will the new
battery last 3 or 6 years? I use it mainly as a camera, and the only
reason I might have to replace it is the ability to use an e-SIM along
with a real one.

> If you're buying from Amazon, only look at the negative reviews as there's
> lots of fake reviews going on. In particular people who write reviews on
> opening the box and haven't tested the battery for the long term.

Most people who write reviews aren't bright enough to actually have a
valid opinion. Plus, of course, the reviews are undated.

--
Cheers, Bev
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting
them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for
no good reason. - Jack Handy

On 9/4/2023 10:35 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> If you're buying from Amazon, only look at the negative reviews as there's
>> lots of fake reviews going on. In particular people who write reviews on
>> opening the box and haven't tested the battery for the long term.
>
> Most people who write reviews aren't bright enough to actually have a
> valid opinion. Plus, of course, the reviews are undated.

The problem with reviews is legendary - where the happy people don't
generally bother and the unhappy people don't provide enough detail.

I can only say I've bought batteries for Android phones which had
replaceable batteries and the name brand batteries cost more because they
had the NFC antenna on them - so I bought no-name batteries.

They worked fine.
--
regards,
Neil

On 9/4/23 9:11 PM, Neil wrote:
> On 9/4/2023 10:35 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> If you're buying from Amazon, only look at the negative reviews as there's
>>> lots of fake reviews going on. In particular people who write reviews on
>>> opening the box and haven't tested the battery for the long term.
>>
>> Most people who write reviews aren't bright enough to actually have a
>> valid opinion. Plus, of course, the reviews are undated.
>
> The problem with reviews is legendary - where the happy people don't
> generally bother and the unhappy people don't provide enough detail.
>
> I can only say I've bought batteries for Android phones which had
> replaceable batteries and the name brand batteries cost more because they
> had the NFC antenna on them - so I bought no-name batteries.
>
> They worked fine.

I avoid buying from people who don't offer free returns. If they don't
have that much confidence in what they sell, why should I? And I
stopped buying Samsung stuff when I found out that no matter how
expensive it is it gets only a one-year warranty. My Samsung gas stove
developed problems within 8 months (I had the ancient one for at least
40 years with no problems that a thorough cleaning wouldn't solve) which
took several months to solve although it was a simple replacement.

And I don't buy anything from ebay that I'm not willing to eat if the
thing doesn't work.

--
Cheers, Bev
If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting
them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for
no good reason. - Jack Handy