Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

6 May, 2024: The networking issue during the past two days has been identified and fixed.


computers / comp.mobile.android / Re: Android into Win10

SubjectAuthor
* Re: Android into Win10Wally J
`* Re: Android into Win10Wally J
 `- Re: Android into Win10Ed Cryer

1
Re: Android into Win10

<ud5lrk$16luv$1@paganini.bofh.team>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44594&group=comp.mobile.android#44594

  copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 comp.mobile.android alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail
From: walterjo...@invalid.nospam (Wally J)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject: Re: Android into Win10
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:32:26 -0400
Organization: To protect and to server
Message-ID: <ud5lrk$16luv$1@paganini.bofh.team>
References: <ud53tj$1iclj$1@dont-email.me> <memo.20230904191027.4816A@jeason.cix.co.uk>
Injection-Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 22:31:17 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1267679"; posting-host="uuDFMU9KpterphROdD3ffw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";
Cancel-Lock: sha256:p2OoSjz5PqnZ/OEhrtdS1RQZHQyd9WHKhmlkcBLlhV4=
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
X-Priority: 3
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
 by: Wally J - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 22:32 UTC

"John K.Eason" <john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk> wrote

> In article <ud53tj$1iclj$1@dont-email.me>, ed@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer) wrote:
>
>> *From:* Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
>> *Date:* Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:24:38 +0100
>>
>> I took a lengthy video on my phone yesterday, the first day of the
>> Tour of Britain cycling race. The minutes prior to the peloton
>> arriving were quite spectacular. A host of 20/30 motorcycle cops
>> race up in an almost military troop, cut off all traffic left and
>> right, set up blocks everywhere. And then the cyclists appear,
>> cheered by all the people who've rushed out of their homes to find
>> out what all that brigade of motorcycle cops is doing.
>>
>> Well, to the point.
>> I plug the phone by USB cable into my Win10 computer, the phone
>> sings a little song, the computer shows no sign of it.
>> I plug it into a TV, same little song from the phone, not
>> recognised by the TV's media function.
>>
>> I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone.
>>
>> Help please.
>
> Ask in an Android newsgroup?

The OP's first question was a Windows question.
(the computer shows no sign of the phone being connected by USB)

The OP's second question was an Android question.
(I can't find what app is playing the recognition tune on the phone)

So I replied (to both, separately) to both newsgroups.
... however ...

I was led astray by the super confusing way the OP asked the question.
Only moments ago, as I pasted that above, did I realize that the OP isn't
asking the Android user what app is playing the song/video...

But he's asking what app played the "recognition" tune.
Sigh.

Confusion begets confusion.

Anyway, since I care the OP gets the help he needs, I strongly suspect the
app that "plays the recognition tune" is the "notification settings" in
Android.

On my Galaxy Android 12, I usually set the notification settings to
verbally speak to me what happened so I don't have to remember tunes.

1. Install Tell Me (text to WAV for notifications)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplycomplexapps.ASTellme>
2. Then type the words "I will now play your song" (or whatever)
3. Use TellMe to convert those words to a WAV file (male or female).
4. Save that WAV file into your notifications sound folder
5. For apps that can choose their own notifications, set the app
to run that notifications file whenever it is ready to play a song.

Of course, you need to know the app that is playing the song,
but I covered (in Vanguard-like gory detail) lots of ways for that.

As for Android notification sounds for apps that can't set their
own sound, IMHO the situation is atrociously primitive.

All my Android 12 can do for notification sounds (outside of the
smart apps that can set their own sounds) is the following
Settings > Notifications > Advanced Settings >

In "Advanced Settings" the OP can set "Show Notification Icons"
which may help the OP visually figure out what's going on, as
is the option to "Show icon badges" and "Notification reminders".

Better still, as I covered in detail to make a one-tap shortcut,
there is an option there for "Notification history" which should,
I would think, provide the OP with the last "stuff" that happened.

What might help the OP is the separate section in Settings for
Settings > Sounds and vibration > Notification sound
But the problem with that primitive option is you can't set it
to something intelligent such as a WAV file that speaks what it is.

In summary, if the Android phone is making a sound, and if the OP
has no idea what is making that sound, I'd suspect notifications.
--
The reason for the three newsgroups is that half the questions are
for Android & Windows - but the 2nd Windows ng is auto-archived too.

Re: Android into Win10

<ud5nd3$16non$1@paganini.bofh.team>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44595&group=comp.mobile.android#44595

  copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 comp.mobile.android alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail
From: walterjo...@invalid.nospam (Wally J)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject: Re: Android into Win10
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 18:58:49 -0400
Organization: To protect and to server
Message-ID: <ud5nd3$16non$1@paganini.bofh.team>
References: <ud53tj$1iclj$1@dont-email.me> <memo.20230904191027.4816A@jeason.cix.co.uk> <ud5lrk$16luv$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Injection-Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 22:57:40 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1269527"; posting-host="uuDFMU9KpterphROdD3ffw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";
Cancel-Lock: sha256:/Jg3ZaxVMAzdyvW+1VHPlH05969ztquVydrDODw3tAQ=
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
 by: Wally J - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 22:58 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

> In summary, if the Android phone is making a sound, and if the OP
> has no idea what is making that sound, I'd suspect notifications.

Of course, as I think more about how to help the OP, it could be he's
saying the PC made the notification sound... and not the Android...

Sigh...

In _that_ case, I'd use what I consider the best USB debugger alive
where Paul was the first person to suggest this most excellent tool!
<https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html>

Although VanguardLH suggests this seemingly equally good USB debugger.
<https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html>

The debugging steps I'd suggest in that case, for the OP, might be
1. Shut down the PC & remove all possible USB connections
2. Boot the PC without the Android phone being connected by USB
3. Run the free USB debuggers listed above
4. Plug in the Android phone and watch what changes in the debuggers
5. Install the OEM drivers for the Android phone (see list below).
6. Do the process all over again and see if the OEM drivers help out.

This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.
a. The phone isn't recognized on the PC, and,
b. The PC is making the ding (if that's what is making the ding that is).

Here (again) are the list of OEM drivers (with a few additional links
annotated with a dash in front as I had missed them on the first pass).
Acer -> https://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/
Alcatel -> https://www.alcatelmobile.com/support/
- Amazon -> https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html
Asus -> https://www.asus.com/support/Download-Center/
Blackberry -> https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=4EE0932F46276313B51570F46266A608
Dell -> https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=anavml
- Essential <https://storage.googleapis.com/essential-static/Essential-PH1-WindowsDrivers.exe>
FCNT -> https://www.fcnt.com/support/develop/#anc-03
- Fujitsu -> http://spf.fmworld.net/fujitsu/c/develop/sp/android/
- Google -> https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb
- Honor -> https://www.hihonor.com/global/support/suite/
HTC -> https://www.htc.com/support
Huawei -> https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/index.htm
Intel -> https://www.intel.com/software/android
Kyocera -> https://kyoceramobile.com/support/drivers/
Lenovo -> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/GlobalProductSelector
LGE -> https://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware
Motorola -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481/
MTK -> http://online.mediatek.com/Public%20Documents/MTK_Android_USB_Driver.zip
- Nokia -> When you connect a Nokia phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
- Nvidia -> https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-open-source
- OnePlus -> When you connect a OnePlus phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
- Razer -> https://s3.amazonaws.com/cheryl-factory-images/How_to_Install_Android_Fastboot_Drivers_on_Windows.pdf
- RealMe -> https://www.realme.com/in/support/software-update
Samsung -> https://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
Sharp -> http://k-tai.sharp.co.jp/support/
Sony -> https://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/
Toshiba -> https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=4001814
- Umidigi -> https://www.umidigi.com/page-Download.html
Xiaomi -> https://web.vip.miui.com/page/info/mio/mio/detail?postId=18464849&app_version=dev.20051
ZTE -> http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsDetail.aspx?newsId=1000442
See also <https://www.xda-developers.com/download-android-usb-drivers/>

There's also a generic driver which Windows installs but I don't have a
link to it - and there is a generic Google driver also (need the links).

Searching, this seems to be the generic Google Android:Windows driver.
<https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb>
<https://dl.google.com/android/repository/usb_driver_r13-windows.zip>
Name: usb_driver_r13-windows.zip
Size: 8682039 bytes (8478 KiB)
SHA256: 360B01D3DFB6C41621A3A64AE570DFAC2C9A40CCA1B5A1F136AE90D02F5E9E0B
Which extracts to various Windows cab and dll files (a whole 'nuther story)

Searching, we all know Windows should be installing the driver automatically
(plug n pray); but if not, we all know there's a series of debugging tasks.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/take-back-control-driver-updates-windows-10/>

But in most cases, Windows will automatically install the correct driver.
<https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-windows-drivers-android-phone/>
--
The reason for the immense detail is not only to help the OP, but also
to serve as a web-searchable permanent record for thousands of additional
people to look up in the permanent Google archives for each Usenet ng.

Re: Android into Win10

<ud6o7l$1t4rs$2@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=44607&group=comp.mobile.android#44607

  copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10 comp.mobile.android alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: ed...@somewhere.in.the.uk (Ed Cryer)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
Subject: Re: Android into Win10
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 09:17:43 +0100
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 89
Message-ID: <ud6o7l$1t4rs$2@dont-email.me>
References: <ud53tj$1iclj$1@dont-email.me>
<memo.20230904191027.4816A@jeason.cix.co.uk>
<ud5lrk$16luv$1@paganini.bofh.team> <ud5nd3$16non$1@paganini.bofh.team>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 08:17:57 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5b9523d4b0a10c0c51f2c33c1234c002";
logging-data="2003836"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19RORLB1DOBK4Dp55c0j+5u"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.15.0
Cancel-Lock: sha1:6Tw+pGk118h56ze9UB1Iwud6DW8=
In-Reply-To: <ud5nd3$16non$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Content-Language: en-GB
 by: Ed Cryer - Tue, 5 Sep 2023 08:17 UTC

Wally J wrote:
> Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
>
>> In summary, if the Android phone is making a sound, and if the OP
>> has no idea what is making that sound, I'd suspect notifications.
>
> Of course, as I think more about how to help the OP, it could be he's
> saying the PC made the notification sound... and not the Android...
>
> Sigh...
>
> In _that_ case, I'd use what I consider the best USB debugger alive
> where Paul was the first person to suggest this most excellent tool!
> <https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html>
>
> Although VanguardLH suggests this seemingly equally good USB debugger.
> <https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html>
>
> The debugging steps I'd suggest in that case, for the OP, might be
> 1. Shut down the PC & remove all possible USB connections
> 2. Boot the PC without the Android phone being connected by USB
> 3. Run the free USB debuggers listed above
> 4. Plug in the Android phone and watch what changes in the debuggers
> 5. Install the OEM drivers for the Android phone (see list below).
> 6. Do the process all over again and see if the OEM drivers help out.
>
> This could find hardware problems (e.g., in the USB cable or in the port
> being used on the PC) which are related to _both_ the OP's issues.
> a. The phone isn't recognized on the PC, and,
> b. The PC is making the ding (if that's what is making the ding that is).
>
> Here (again) are the list of OEM drivers (with a few additional links
> annotated with a dash in front as I had missed them on the first pass).
> Acer -> https://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/
> Alcatel -> https://www.alcatelmobile.com/support/
> - Amazon -> https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html
> Asus -> https://www.asus.com/support/Download-Center/
> Blackberry -> https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/Downloads/entry.do?code=4EE0932F46276313B51570F46266A608
> Dell -> https://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=anavml
> - Essential <https://storage.googleapis.com/essential-static/Essential-PH1-WindowsDrivers.exe>
> FCNT -> https://www.fcnt.com/support/develop/#anc-03
> - Fujitsu -> http://spf.fmworld.net/fujitsu/c/develop/sp/android/
> - Google -> https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb
> - Honor -> https://www.hihonor.com/global/support/suite/
> HTC -> https://www.htc.com/support
> Huawei -> https://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/index.htm
> Intel -> https://www.intel.com/software/android
> Kyocera -> https://kyoceramobile.com/support/drivers/
> Lenovo -> https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/GlobalProductSelector
> LGE -> https://www.lg.com/us/support/software-firmware
> Motorola -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88481/
> MTK -> http://online.mediatek.com/Public%20Documents/MTK_Android_USB_Driver.zip
> - Nokia -> When you connect a Nokia phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
> - Nvidia -> https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-open-source
> - OnePlus -> When you connect a OnePlus phone to your PC, you should see a virtual CD-ROM drive that contains the driver installer.
> - Razer -> https://s3.amazonaws.com/cheryl-factory-images/How_to_Install_Android_Fastboot_Drivers_on_Windows.pdf
> - RealMe -> https://www.realme.com/in/support/software-update
> Samsung -> https://developer.samsung.com/galaxy/others/android-usb-driver-for-windows
> Sharp -> http://k-tai.sharp.co.jp/support/
> Sony -> https://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/
> Toshiba -> https://support.toshiba.com/sscontent?docId=4001814
> - Umidigi -> https://www.umidigi.com/page-Download.html
> Xiaomi -> https://web.vip.miui.com/page/info/mio/mio/detail?postId=18464849&app_version=dev.20051
> ZTE -> http://support.zte.com.cn/support/news/NewsDetail.aspx?newsId=1000442
> See also <https://www.xda-developers.com/download-android-usb-drivers/>
>
> There's also a generic driver which Windows installs but I don't have a
> link to it - and there is a generic Google driver also (need the links).
>
> Searching, this seems to be the generic Google Android:Windows driver.
> <https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb>
> <https://dl.google.com/android/repository/usb_driver_r13-windows.zip>
> Name: usb_driver_r13-windows.zip
> Size: 8682039 bytes (8478 KiB)
> SHA256: 360B01D3DFB6C41621A3A64AE570DFAC2C9A40CCA1B5A1F136AE90D02F5E9E0B
> Which extracts to various Windows cab and dll files (a whole 'nuther story)
>
> Searching, we all know Windows should be installing the driver automatically
> (plug n pray); but if not, we all know there's a series of debugging tasks.
> <https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/take-back-control-driver-updates-windows-10/>
>
> But in most cases, Windows will automatically install the correct driver.
> <https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/install-windows-drivers-android-phone/>

You've put so much time and effort into this, Wally J, that I feel I owe
you a special thank you.

Ed

1
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.81
clearnet tor