I have been going through my junk box and wanted to see if I could get
any use out of a few old items.
(I have AT&T Wifi)

First is a Pinebook someone gave me and I just did a factory reset and
it seems to work except for wifi.
It says "connected but no internet."

Funny thing is, after it does that, the internet may work just fine for
a few days, then later may stop working for days at a time with no
reason I can figure out. I also have tried several versions of Linux and
have experienced no problems with internet but the performance running
off an sd card is a bit slow.

Second is an old Samsung Galaxy 3 phone.
Again, a wifi problem. I cannot get it to connect. The only error I
receive is "authentication problem."
My router and the phone both use the same protocol, so I am stumped. To
make sure it was a not a password issue, I purposely tried a wrong
password and as expected got the "wrong password" message.

I can connect to the Internet using Bluetooth however,. so I know
basically the phone is working, but the performance under Bluetooth is
quite poor.

Any ideas would be appreciated....this is of course nothing critical.
Probably going to give this stuff to me grandson to fool with.

Thanks

On 13/9/2023, philo wrote:

> I can connect to the Internet using Bluetooth

How does one connect to the Internet over Bluetooth?

Is there an app for that?

How does the Bluetooth on the phone connect to the home router?

For Bluetooth all I had to do was setup my presentation phone as a hot spot.

philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote

> I have been going through my junk box and wanted to see if I could get
> any use out of a few old items.
> (I have AT&T Wifi)
>
> First is a Pinebook someone gave me and I just did a factory reset and
> it seems to work except for wifi.
> It says "connected but no internet."
>
> Funny thing is, after it does that, the internet may work just fine for
> a few days, then later may stop working for days at a time with no
> reason I can figure out.

I don't like it when someone doesn't get an answer, so I'll take a stab at
helping you - but there's not much to go by - especially since - for all of
us - Wi-Fi connections are, at times, at best, flaky (to say the least).

Anyway, I get "connected but no Internet" all the time on my phone, where
usually it's exactly what it says it is. The phone connected to the router
access point. But the router isn't on the Internet. Or the connection to
the Internet is super duper slow such that it times out on its tests.

Could it be as simple as that?

> I also have tried several versions of Linux and
> have experienced no problems with internet but the performance running
> off an sd card is a bit slow.

Did you use the no-root Andronix for the Linux on Android capability?
https://andronix.app/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=studio.com.techriz.andronix
https://github.com/AndronixApp

> Second is an old Samsung Galaxy 3 phone.
> Again, a wifi problem. I cannot get it to connect. The only error I
> receive is "authentication problem."

When I have authentication issues, I temporarily unhide my broadcast SSID
(which I presume yours is already not hidden) and then I set it to
something I can't possibly type incorrectly (e.g., "x") and then I remove
all protection.

If you _still_ can't connect after that, then you do have a problem. :)

However, most of the time it connects, where you then one by one add back
all the things you removed.

By doing that, I found out that my old Netgear WNDR3400v2 router wouldn't
both connect to a client-mode WRT-54G (acting as the Wi-Fi card for an
Ethernet-only PC) and act as an access point.

Luckily the replacement router could - so that problem is resolved, but my
point is there are times when you legitimately can't connect to an AP.

> My router and the phone both use the same protocol, so I am stumped. To
> make sure it was a not a password issue, I purposely tried a wrong
> password and as expected got the "wrong password" message.

See above. Simplify it even further by removing all encryption temporraily.

> I can connect to the Internet using Bluetooth however,. so I know
> basically the phone is working, but the performance under Bluetooth is
> quite poor.

You're not really connecting to the Internet using Bluetooth alone.

> Any ideas would be appreciated....this is of course nothing critical.
> Probably going to give this stuff to me grandson to fool with.

I've seen babies with iPhones in their little tiny paws.
It used to be a silver spoon - now it's an iPad. :)

On 13 Sep 2023 09:53:58 -0500 philo wrote:
>
>Second is an old Samsung Galaxy 3 phone.
>Again, a wifi problem. I cannot get it to connect. The only error I
>receive is "authentication problem."
>My router and the phone both use the same protocol, so I am stumped. To
>make sure it was a not a password issue, I purposely tried a wrong
>password and as expected got the "wrong password" message.
>
Router only supports WPA3 and phone is WPA2?

Just a guess.

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Router and phone.WPA 2

That's OK. Giving it all to my Grandson tomorrow

Dave Royal wrote:

> Router only supports WPA3

That would be a rare beast.

> and phone is WPA2?

Had a Vigor router and mesh AP setup for mixed WPA3+WPA2, working
happily with both Android and Apple devices, until a few weeks ago, when
the Apple devices all refused to connect, have had to disable WPA3 ...
which is odd because Apple devices were moaning about insecurity due to
lack of WPA3 a year or more ago.

Not tried latest Vigor firmware yet.

On 15 Sep 2023 08:15:38 +0100 Andy Burns wrote:
>Dave Royal wrote:
>
>> Router only supports WPA3
>
>That would be a rare beast.
>
>> and phone is WPA2?
>
>Had a Vigor router and mesh AP setup for mixed WPA3+WPA2, working
>happily with both Android and Apple devices, until a few weeks ago, when
>the Apple devices all refused to connect, have had to disable WPA3 ...
>which is odd because Apple devices were moaning about insecurity due to
>lack of WPA3 a year or more ago.
>
>Not tried latest Vigor firmware yet.

I don't know how this old phone is. I did wonder whether its version of
Android might have expired or missing certificates or ciphers, but I doubt
if that would affect authenticating a wifi connection.
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On 9/15/23 9:44 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2023 08:15:38 +0100 Andy Burns wrote:
>> Dave Royal wrote:
>>
>>> Router only supports WPA3
>>
>> That would be a rare beast.
>>
>>> and phone is WPA2?
>>
>> Had a Vigor router and mesh AP setup for mixed WPA3+WPA2, working
>> happily with both Android and Apple devices, until a few weeks ago, when
>> the Apple devices all refused to connect, have had to disable WPA3 ...
>> which is odd because Apple devices were moaning about insecurity due to
>> lack of WPA3 a year or more ago.
>>
>> Not tried latest Vigor firmware yet.
>
> I don't know how this old phone is. I did wonder whether its version of
> Android might have expired or missing certificates or ciphers, but I doubt
> if that would affect authenticating a wifi connection.

Took the phone over to my grandson"s house and it connected to his
family's Spectrum account just fine so I left it with him and he can now
play his games without having to borrow someone else's phone.

Of note: the phone is AT&T and the router it won't connect to is AT&T
....sounds typical

The Pinebook did not connect using the native OS...so since it will run
on Linux, I am going to keep it for myself now.

At least I found a use for the old phone.