Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> asked
> Microsoft has known about the critical Outlook flaws fore over a year.
> they didn't bother to fix them, ort of, until they were publicly
> exposed.

Adults will notice the apologists claim Apple is no better than Microsoft.

What's interesting is both Apple & the apologists try to have it both ways:
a. They claim (sans any facts) Apple is better than Microsoft
b. Except when it comes to all these bad facts about Apple not testing bugs
c. Then it's Microsoft's fault that Apple products are all untested for bugs

> Microsoft has know about their print spooler issues for DECADES. They
> have failed to fix them, and no describe them as "insecure by design"
> and offer no reasonable mitigation.

And yet, when we discussed this bug on the Windows newsgroup, for quite a
long time, nobody blamed Apple for what is a Microsoft bug after all.

*It's only the apologists who blame all Apple's bugs on Microsoft.*

> Android "security" is a bad joke that is easily bypassed by anyone with
> access to google for a few minutes. and anyone with physical access to
> the device.

Apologists are always ignorant; they only believe what is painted on walls.

What's interesting is the apologists are _ignorant_ Android is likely far
more secure than iOS ever could possibly be - and that Android exploits are
vastly more expensive than are iOS exploits in the hackers' markets.
*No, Your iPhone Is Not More Secure Than Android*
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/16/iphone-12-pro-max-and-iphone-13-not-more-secure-than-google-and-samsung-android-warns-cyber-billionaire/>
*What the market for zero-day exploits tells us about our phones*
<https://onezero.medium.com/is-android-getting-safer-than-ios-4a2ca6f359d3>

In fact, apologists are ignorant that new zero-day zero-click iOS exploits
are worthless because there are already too many of them out there!
*Stop sending us Apple bugs, we have enough already*
<https://www.cyberscoop.com/ios-zero-day-zerodium-high-supply/>

> Yes, Apple was late to the bug bounty program and it still goes very much
> against how they think of the company.

Apple doesn't give a shit about testing their products for bugs.
Apple cares about their profits - which they maintain with advertising.

Why should Apple test for bugs when you _believe_ the advertising?

> These things have to be around
> long enough to replace the institutional mindset that prevented them
> being implemented in the first place, but at least Apple isn't sitting
> on them for years and years and then saying "Yeah, fuck you all, we're
> not fixing that. Not now, not ever. Suck it."

You do realize this latest zero-click zero-day bug is a rehash of an old one
that Apple _knew_ about and let slip _back_ into their code, right?
--
Nobody is as gullible as these customers who believe everything Apple says.