The wabash and Erie Canal connected Lake Erie with the Wabash River in
Indiana. It was about 450 miles long, the longest canal built in the
US. But it was only profitable for about 10 years. Maintenance costs
were too high, and the investors and I think the states of Ohio and
Indiana lost money for years before it was abanddoned.

This is a sad story, and if it depresses me, I can only imagine how much
it would sadden our dear public school students, so I'm going to see
that this is removed from the Indiana History course that all junior
high students in Indiana public schools take. And if Ohio students take
Ohio History, I will do the same for them.

We cannot be upsetting youngsters in their formative years. Florida has
it right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_and_Erie_Canal#Operation

I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 11:53:11 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>
>
>The wabash and Erie Canal connected Lake Erie with the Wabash River in
>Indiana. It was about 450 miles long, the longest canal built in the
>US. But it was only profitable for about 10 years. Maintenance costs
>were too high, and the investors and I think the states of Ohio and
>Indiana lost money for years before it was abanddoned.
>
>This is a sad story, and if it depresses me, I can only imagine how much
>it would sadden our dear public school students, so I'm going to see
>that this is removed from the Indiana History course that all junior
>high students in Indiana public schools take. And if Ohio students take
>Ohio History, I will do the same for them.
>
>We cannot be upsetting youngsters in their formative years. Florida has
>it right.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_and_Erie_Canal#Operation

On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
comp.mobile.android:

> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.

You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.

A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
through Ohio. Fascinating!

Similar to the Pony Express, which was certainly expensive and
difficult to implement and was only viable for a few years. But
important to the expansion of the country.

> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 11:53:11 -0400, micky
><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>The wabash and Erie Canal connected Lake Erie with the Wabash
>>River in Indiana. It was about 450 miles long, the longest canal
>>built in the US. But it was only profitable for about 10 years.
>>Maintenance costs were too high, and the investors and I think the
>>states of Ohio and Indiana lost money for years before it was
>>abanddoned.
>>
>>This is a sad story, and if it depresses me, I can only imagine
>>how much it would sadden our dear public school students, so I'm
>>going to see that this is removed from the Indiana History course
>>that all junior high students in Indiana public schools take. And
>>if Ohio students take Ohio History, I will do the same for them.
>>
>>We cannot be upsetting youngsters in their formative years.
>>Florida has it right.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_and_Erie_Canal#Operation

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil
<rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:

>On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
>comp.mobile.android:
>
>> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.
>
>You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.
>
>A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
>Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
>through Ohio. Fascinating!

There were iiuc 3 separate canals connecting the Great Lakes with the
Ohio River. One iirc went south from where Erie Pa. is. The Wabash
and Erie Canal went mostly west from the west end of Lake Erie and a
little south to get to the Wabash River. And I think there was a third
but I don't where it went.

And iirc state governments paid for a lot of the construction because
otherwise they coudln't raise enough money.

Lots of other canals too, including the C&O canal that I think was very
successful.

>Similar to the Pony Express, which was certainly expensive and
>difficult to implement and was only viable for a few years. But
>important to the expansion of the country.

Yes.
>
>
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 11:53:11 -0400, micky
>><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The w(W)abash and Erie Canal connected Lake Erie with the Wabash
>>>River in Indiana. It was about 450 miles long, the longest canal
>>>built in the US. But it was only profitable for about 10 years.
>>>Maintenance costs were too high, and the investors and I think the
>>>states of Ohio and Indiana lost money for years before it was
>>>abanddoned.
>>>
>>>This is a sad story, and if it depresses me, I can only imagine
>>>how much it would sadden our dear public school students, so I'm
>>>going to see that this is removed from the Indiana History course
>>>that all junior high students in Indiana public schools take. And
>>>if Ohio students take Ohio History, I will do the same for them.
>>>
>>>We cannot be upsetting youngsters in their formative years.
>>>Florida has it right.
>>>
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_and_Erie_Canal#Operation

On 10/7/23 6:36 PM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil
> <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
>>comp.mobile.android:
>>
>>> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.
>>
>>You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.
>>
>>A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
>>Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
>>through Ohio. Fascinating!

"Sixteen miles on the Erie Canal..."

"We've hauled some barges in our day
Filled with lumber, coal and hay
And we know every inch of the way
From Albany to Buffalo..."

One of the songs we sang in elementary school.

--
Cheers, Bev
"Few skills are so well rewarded as the ability to convince
parasites that they are victims." --Thomas Sowell

The Real Bev wrote:

> On 10/7/23 6:36 PM, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil
>> <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
>>>comp.mobile.android:
>>>
>>>> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.
>>>
>>>You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.
>>>
>>>A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
>>>Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
>>>through Ohio. Fascinating!
>
> "Sixteen miles on the Erie Canal..."
>
> "We've hauled some barges in our day
> Filled with lumber, coal and hay
> And we know every inch of the way
> From Albany to Buffalo..."
>
> One of the songs we sang in elementary school.

One that appeared occasionally in English Folk Singing clubs too.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Forced to choose between two evils - pick the one you haven't tried before!

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/7/23 6:36 PM, micky wrote:
> > In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil
> > <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
> >>comp.mobile.android:
> >>
> >>> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.
> >>
> >>You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.
> >>
> >>A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
> >>Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
> >>through Ohio. Fascinating!
>
> "Sixteen miles on the Erie Canal..."
>
> "We've hauled some barges in our day
> Filled with lumber, coal and hay
> And we know every inch of the way
> From Albany to Buffalo..."
>
> One of the songs we sang in elementary school.
>
The one I know is a very drunken drinking song sung by Oscar Brandt
with a repeated refrain about "the gin was getting low". :-)

--
Chris Green
·

On 10/8/23 12:43 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> On 10/7/23 6:36 PM, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil
>>> <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
>>>>comp.mobile.android:
>>>>
>>>>> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.
>>>>
>>>>You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.
>>>>
>>>>A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
>>>>Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
>>>>through Ohio. Fascinating!
>>
>> "Sixteen miles on the Erie Canal..."
>>
>> "We've hauled some barges in our day
>> Filled with lumber, coal and hay
>> And we know every inch of the way
>> From Albany to Buffalo..."
>>
>> One of the songs we sang in elementary school.
>
> One that appeared occasionally in English Folk Singing clubs too.

And then there's the Watkins Ale song. We didn't sing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SznvtWsjRzg

--
Cheers, Bev
"My parents just came back from a planet where the dominant lifeform
had no bilateral symmetry, and all I got was this stupid F-Shirt."

The Real Bev wrote:

> On 10/8/23 12:43 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/7/23 6:36 PM, micky wrote:
>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil
>>>> <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 07 Oct 2023, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
>>>>>comp.mobile.android:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did it again. Sorry for the off topic post.
>>>>>
>>>>>You are forgiven ;) It's an interesting factoid regardless of context.
>>>>>
>>>>>A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
>>>>>Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
>>>>>through Ohio. Fascinating!
>>>
>>> "Sixteen miles on the Erie Canal..."
>>>
>>> "We've hauled some barges in our day
>>> Filled with lumber, coal and hay
>>> And we know every inch of the way
>>> From Albany to Buffalo..."
>>>
>>> One of the songs we sang in elementary school.
>>
>> One that appeared occasionally in English Folk Singing clubs too.
>
> And then there's the Watkins Ale song. We didn't sing that.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SznvtWsjRzg

That one didn't get sung at the clubs we went to - far too sophisticated.
:-)

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

If I only had a little humility, I'd be perfect.

On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil wrote:
> A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
> Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
> through Ohio. Fascinating!
>

It doesn't, and didn't. That's the _Ohio_ and Erie Canal, which
connected the Ohio Rivcer with Lake Erie via the Cuyahoga River.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_and_Erie_Canal

"The Ohio and Erie Canal was a canal constructed during the 1820s and
early 1830s in Ohio. It connected Akron with the Cuyahoga River near
its outlet on Lake Erie in Cleveland, and a few years later, with the
Ohio River near Portsmouth. It also had connections to other canal
systems in Pennsylvania.

"The canal carried freight traffic from 1827 to 1861, when the
construction of railroads ended demand. From 1862 to 1913, the canal
served as a water source for industries and towns. During 1913, much
of the canal system was abandoned after important parts were flooded
severely."

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 8 Oct 2023 12:09:08 -0700, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 20:06:51 -0400, Nil wrote:
>> A friend of mine lives on a vestige of the Erie Canal in Akron OH.
>> Before he clued me in, I had no idea that the Erie Canal extended
>> through Ohio. Fascinating!
>>
>
>It doesn't, and didn't. That's the _Ohio_ and Erie Canal, which

Yeah, that's the third one that connected Lake Erie with the Ohio.

The others were the Wabash and Erie Canal and the one whose name I don't
remeember. One is surprising. Three is amazing. It's not like they
are easy to make.

>connected the Ohio Rivcer with Lake Erie via the Cuyahoga River.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_and_Erie_Canal
>
>"The Ohio and Erie Canal was a canal constructed during the 1820s and
>early 1830s in Ohio. It connected Akron with the Cuyahoga River near
>its outlet on Lake Erie in Cleveland, and a few years later, with the
>Ohio River near Portsmouth. It also had connections to other canal
>systems in Pennsylvania.
>
>"The canal carried freight traffic from 1827 to 1861, when the
>construction of railroads ended demand. From 1862 to 1913, the canal
>served as a water source for industries and towns. During 1913, much
>of the canal system was abandoned after important parts were flooded
>severely."